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I really really really hope this isnt the new logo....but in a strange way it has jeffery loria written all over it http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/9/20/2438945/the-new-miami-marlins-logo-is-in

A nice article talking about his retirement and comments about his time with the marlins the whole article is here http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/2011/02/gary-sheffield-not-opposed-to-going-in-as-florida-marlin-if-hall-calls.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+marlinsblog+%28Florida+Marlins+|+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs%29&utm_content=Twitter here is the section talking about the marlins Had a nice chat with Sheffield about his Marlins days and Hall of Fame hopes. He wouldn’t mind going in as a Marlin, but that day probably isn’t coming any time soon after he’s eligible in 2014. Sheffield has some compelling numbers, but being named in the Mitchell Report won’t aid his candidacy. Here are some excerpts from the interview: On his time with the Marlins: “I have nothing but great things to say about it. We did everything [in 1997] we set out to do. Unfortunately we weren’t able to get the stadium they’re so blessed to have right now. If we would have gotten the stadium, you would have seen great teams put out on the field on a year-to-year basis because South Florida is where most players want to come and play and raise their families. I was just glad to be a part of it as long as I was.� On the 1997 club: “Jim Leyland pulled us to the side and we had a conversation before we even suited up and that was the first thing he mentioned about treating spring training like it was the regular season and we were going to set the tone from day one. We were going to be a force to be reckoned with and were going to show people we were for real. Every day we suited up we came with a purpose and it started from day one.� On whether he would want a Marlins cap on his Hall of Fame plaque: “Absolutely. That’s the team I won a championship with. Most people since I played with the Yankees associate me with them, but before I got to the Yankees everybody knew me from my Marlin days. Every time they mentioned the Marlins they’d talk about me and what I’d done there, and so I’m always grateful for that. This is one of the teams that’s dear to me and it’s always going to be my first team.� On Mike Stanton possibly breaking his franchise single-season home run record: “Records are meant to be broken and there has to be somebody who sets them. I’m glad I’m the guy who set the record for home runs in a single season. That’s a high number. If anybody breaks it, that would be great. I wouldn’t be opposed to somebody breaking that record or feel any less about it. I enjoyed my time there. I put up great numbers. There are always going to be some young kids that come up and do better than you did.� On being included in the Marlins’ countdown to the new ballpark: “I always wanted to be a part of what they have there because we made history there — the first team to ever win a [Marlins] World Series and that means a lot to me and I’m sure it means a lot to the fans. Whatever they want to do, I’m fine with it. If they want to include me, great. If not, that’s fine, too.� On whether his inclusion in the Mitchell Report will hurt his Hall of Fame candidacy: “My body of work for three decades speaks for itself. We changed the game. That’s how I look at it. We walked 140-some times a year. I look at all the walks that I have and if I didn’t have those walks the way they pitch to great hitters nowadays, what my numbers could have been. I look at that and that’s what makes me more appreciative of what I’ve done. They tried to take me out of the game a lot of times and I still wound up having Hall of Fame numbers.� On why he waited so long to announce retirement: “I was pretty much done last year. It was a matter of talking it over with my family and friends and they suggested I give it a year and really understand what it’s like to be at home during the summer spending time with your wife and kids, and then you can really look back and reflect on your career and it can be out of your system. That was the best advice I got. Anytime you do something for 25 years, you have the right to sit back and reflect on it. I did back and now that it’s out of my system I was able to go ahead and announce it and feel good about it.�

An interesting perspective, I am not sure if this statistical study is complete, but I think it generates interesting conversation and speculation. http://marlinmaniac.com/2011/01/05/replacing-ugglas-home-runs/ A lot of talk over the course of the offseason surrounded replacing Dan Uggla‘s 30+ home run output from the past few seasons. The idea is that Uggla’s production needs to somehow be replaced on the offensive side, and the Marlins made no offseason moves that difrectly dealt with improving the offensive side of the ball. Of course, all of this talk is nonsense. replacing Uggla’s home runs are not any more important than replacing his doubles, singles, and walks, if weighted properly for the relative value of each event. In other words, teams do not need a certain amount of home runs, walks, doubles, singles, or steals to win baseball games; rather, teams simpy need enough runs to win games. Thus, Uggla’s production in terms of runs needs to be replaced. How will the Marlins accomplish that? The team has primarily listed their reason for confidence in replacing Uggla’s offensive production as the continued growth of and full-year of playing time for Mike Stanton and Logan Morrison. But will the Marlins replace all of that production with just the full-time value of those two youngsters? How will Omar Infante figure into this equation as well? Let’s use some projections to find out. Replacing the home runs As I mentioned, it shouldn’t be important that the Marlins replace Uggla’s homers, but that is what fans will focus on the most. What will the team do without Uggla’s run-driving capabilities via the long-ball, they’ll ask. Well, let’s see if the Marlins’ general plan of using Stanton and Morrison for a full season combined with Infante’s production as a direct replacement for Uggla in the lineup. Here are the ZiPS projected HR/600 PA rates for each of the players involved for the 2011 season. Player HR/600 PA Uggla 27.6 Infante 7.5 Stanton 32.4 Morrison 11.8 Giving the players even playing time (set at 600 PA here), you can see that the Marlins are projected to already replace about seven to eight of Uggla’s 30 or so homers just from the addition of Infante. Meanwhile, Stanton and Morrison are projected to put up more than 44 homers per 600 PA combined. However, the Marlins are not “replacing� anyone in those positions, other than perhaps themselves. While it is acceptable to compare Uggla’s and Infante’s raw HR/600 rates for this comparison, we need to compare Stanton’s and Morrison’s projected numbers against the players they are replacing, mainly the 2010 versions of themselves. Here is how these projections stack up against the 2010 version of the two players. Player 2010 HR/600 PA Proj 2011 HR/600 PA Stanton 33.3 32.4 Morrison 4.2 11.8 So it seems that, if you were to compare a full projected 2011 season from Stanton and Morrison versus a full season of Stanton and Morrison at last year’s rates, you would expect to gain around six or seven homers, almost entirely from Morrison’s expected increase in long balls. Comparing a full projected 2011 season from both players to their 2010 seasons at their respective playing times yields a gain of just about 20 home runs (with 600 PA projected for both in 2o11). If that’s the case, then yes, we just about replace all of Uggla’s homers with additional playing time from Stanton and Morrison and Infante’s contributions. Give it to me in runs As I mentioned, however, replacing the home runs is, in and of itself, meaningless; what is important is replacing Uggla’s total run contribution to the team. Once again, we’ll use ZiPS as the projection system of choice and project wRAA / 600 PA for each player in 2011. Player Proj wOBA Proj wRAA/600 PA Uggla .359 +14 Infante .332 +1 Stanton .355 +12.5 Morrison .361 +15.5 This table paints a rosy picture for Marlins fans. While Infante does not necessarily help to replace Uggla’s production, he doesn’t hurt the cause either, being essentially a league average hitter. Meanwhile, Morrison and Stanton figure to stay strong with their respective bats, projected to hit essentially at their 2010 levels. Stanton’s projected .355 wOBA is exactly what he had last season, while Morrison’s dropoff is more significant at about five runs less than a full season of his 2010 (.369 wOBA) production. This combined with the regression ZiPS expects from Uggla seems like enough to fully replace his runs. However, one has to keep that this answers the question of how the Marlins will replace the 2011 version of Dan Uggla that is projected here by ZiPS. This does not answer how the Marlins will replace the 2010 version of Uggla that hit 33 homers and had a .381 wOBA last season which was worth +32 runs above average according to FanGraphs. In other words, the Marlins should expect to able to replace Uggla’s production for 2011 with the parts they already have in place. However, they cannot expect to get the same production from Stanton, Morrison, and Infante in 2011 as they did with Uggla in 2010. Morrison and Stanton can only expect to add about five runs more over the course of a whole season than they did last year; I’d even be willing to give them more like eight or nine runs more than last season. Infante, who serves as a direct replacement to Uggla, can expect to give the team +1 run above average, meaning the Marlins are maybe adding +10-12 runs for the 2011 sesason, just around what ZiPS is projecting Uggla for 2011, but not anywhere close to what he produced in 2010. The Marlins’ offense should be worse than last year just from simple regression, but what about the defense? I would expect Uggla to be a -7 run defender based on what we know scouting-wise and defensive projections that I have done earlier in the year. Infante is expected to be an average defender at second base, meaning the Marlins gain seven runs just from adding a competent defender at the position. That helps to bridge the gap signficantly between the 2010 Uggla and the 2011 Marlins who will replace him. When considering the entire package, the answer to replacing Uggla and his production with Stanton, Morrison, and Infante lies somewhere in between “completely replacing him� and “falling way short.� The Fish did an adequate job in filling in for Uggla in 2011, but as expected the team will have to depend on its youth to get the job done.

http://joefrisaro.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/nolasco_signing_now_official.html Signing is official. Noly will make 6 mill next year with a possible bonus given with innings pitched. Not bad overall

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If anyone had there pick of Jamie Moyer dominating the fish or taking there chances with Cliff Lee....as far as this team is concerned...I would rather face Cliff Lee

So the Phillies have signed Cliff Lee. So that makes Cole Hamels a fourth starter, which is hard to wrap my brain around. But with the only Phillie position player to have a career year last season now a Washington National, and with so many hitters coming off either down years or injury-filled seasons, are they really that much better? Still the team to beat IMHO and will be a tough matchup for this team but no reason to hit the panic button. Just makes the head to head games against the Phillies that much bigger because we might not get any help from anyone else. Also if the Phillies have a injury ridden year this year like they did last year then this move is a push as I can see.

Interesting stuff My linkhttp://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/sports/2010/12/01/mckay.green.stadiums.cnn?iref=allsearch

I always wonder what the Marlins balance sheet looks like. I know we have a bad lease amongst other things right now. but come 2012, there will be no excuses. http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wirestory?id=11457664&page=1 Don't feel too sorry for the cellar-dwelling Pittsburgh Pirates. Losing has been profitable. The Pirates made nearly $29.4 million in 2007 and 2008, according to team financial documents, years that were part of a streak of futility that has now reached 18 straight losing seasons. The team's ownership also paid its partners $20.4 million in 2008. The documents offer a rare peek inside a team that made money by getting slightly less than half its income (about $70 million) from MLB sources — including revenue sharing, network TV, major league merchandise sales and MLB's website. The team also held down costs, keeping player salaries near the bottom of the National League, shedding pricier talent and hoping that untested prospects would blossom. The club's earnings were included in nearly 40 pages of statements that the Pirates submitted to Major League Baseball and were recently obtained by The Associated Press. Team officials briefed local reporters on portions of the material Sunday. The AP wasn't invited to the session, which owner Bob Nutting said was "aimed at the recent leak." "The numbers indicate why people are suspecting they're taking money from baseball and keeping it — they don't spend it on the players," said David Berri, president of the North American Association of Sports Economists and the author of two books detailing the relationship between finances and winning. "Teams have a choice. They can seek to maximize winning, what the Yankees do, or you can be the Pirates and make as much money as you can in your market. The Pirates aren't trying to win." Club executives vehemently disagreed with that assessment. Yet the numbers show Pittsburgh hasn't spent as much as its opponents — and hasn't won. By 2010, the Pirates had baseball's lowest opening-day payroll — $34.9 million or just $2 million more than in 1992, the club's last winning season. The Pirates run of consecutive losing seasons is now the worst in the history of major American pro sports teams. They lost their 83rd game of the year Saturday to the Mets. Pirate officials say they are trying to field a competitive team, and that there is nothing nefarious in the team's financial dealings. MLB backs them up, saying Pittsburgh has complied with the rules for revenue sharing, which are supposed to help less well off clubs compete with likes of the New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sox. Still, Pittsburgh fans have long complained that the club's various owners have been more interested in profits than performance, and top sports economists who reviewed highlights of the team's statements wondered if it now makes more money losing than it could by winning. "If they won and were forced to increase their payroll from $34 million to $75 million or $80 million ... how profitable would they be?" Berri said. "There's a ceiling in terms of gate revenues." Economist Roger Noll, a Stanford University economist, said: "Probably the Pirates would be less profitable if they tried to improve the team substantially." Pirates president Frank Coonelly said the team spends its revenue-sharing money in several ways designed to create a winner: scouting; amateur draft choices; a new Dominican Republic academy that cost more than $5 million; player development; and, an expensive new computer system used in player evaluation. According to the documents, the Pirates spent $23.2 million in 2008 and $21.2 million in 2007 for player development, in line with other clubs. The Pirates' strategy of building with prospects rather than with proven players was illustrated this month when they paid nearly $12 million for amateur draft picks, putting them at or near the top of baseball, and raising their draft expenditures to $31 million for the last three years. They also spent another $2.6 million for 16-year-old Mexican pitching prospect Luis Heredia, the highest price they've paid for an international prospect. General manager Neal Huntington, who was hired three years ago, said the team has a plan for the future and is in the middle of executing it. Coonnelly said in an interview with the AP last week that Pittsburgh, one of baseball's smaller markets, still will need help after it climbs in the standings. "Even when we're winning, we will be a revenue-sharing recipient ... and in much better position to generate revenue and, depending on how we control other expenses, to generate additional income," he said. "But you can win without an $80 million payroll. We're seeing it this year." Indeed, San Diego had the second-lowest opening day payroll and the Padres are leading the NL West. Tampa Bay went to the World Series in 2008 with a relatively low budget. Revenue-sharing funds come from each team's local revenues — every team is charged 34 percent — and are redistributed among the lower-revenue teams. The only stipulation is that the money should be spent on making the team competitive. There is no set amount for payroll."The Pirates have fully complied with the Basic Agreement requirements for the use of revenue-sharing proceeds," Rob Manfred, MLB's executive vice president for labor relations, told the AP in an e-mail. The Basic Agreement is the labor contract between the MLB's 30 clubs and the players union. The Pirates issued a statement Sunday, saying it was wrong for the financial statements to have been released to the AP. "Someone with access to the Club's financial statements has breached his/her fiduciary obligation to the Club by providing a copy of the Club's audited financial statements for the 2007 and 2008 seasons to the Associated Press," the statement read. "The Club is a private company that has no obligation to publicly report its financial results and, like most private companies, has consistently declined to do so." The statement also said "the revenues generated by the club are being reinvested back into the club in both long-term and short-term investments needed to completely overhaul and rebuild this baseball team." "The Club has paid no dividends to its partners. Moreover, while it is quite common for a Chairman of the Board of Directors of a partnership to draw a salary, (owner since 2007) Bob Nutting has never received any salary." Apart from the financial statements, the AP obtained a check stub of a payment made from a Pirates account to settle a bill with Seven Springs ski resort, which is owned by the Nutting family. The check bore a Pirates logo, which at first look suggests a financial transaction between the two operations, but the team says it came from a since-closed joint advertising account. "I can tell you for certain there has not been a dime that has left the Pirates organization to fund any other business of any of the partners of the Pirates," Coonelly said. The $20.4 million payment to partners two years ago wasn't for dividends, Coonelly said, but to cover the owners' taxes on the Pirates' profits and to pay a partner who loaned the team money seven years ago when the Pirates' credit was so bad it couldn't obtain bank financing. While such tax payments are common in a partnership, they're unavailable to the common investor. Coonelly, previously an attorney for MLB, defended the Pirates' right to make a profit, but said he would not stay with the team if he suspected any Pirates funds were being channeled to ownership. "I would not have left the commissioner's office if I wasn't convinced that Bob Nutting was committed to putting a winning product on the field," he said. "I would not have left the commissioner's office and I wouldn't remain at the Pirates if the Pirates were simply generating resources to fund other businesses."Still, fans and critics ask how a team that won five World Series from 1909-1979 and nine division titles from 1969-92 can be so bad. "I think it's very important for smaller markets teams to be careful about spending payroll, but there's a reason to be skeptical and cynical about what's going on (in Pittsburgh)," Andrew Zimbalist, a Smith College economist, said. To cut payroll, the Pirates have shed former All-Stars Jason Bay, Freddy Sanchez, Nate McLouth and Jack Wilson in trades, along with nearly every other player who was arbitration eligible — or close to it — or free agency: Tom Gorzelanny, Ian Snell, John Grabow, Xavier Nady, Adam LaRoche, Damaso Marte, Nyjer Morgan, Ronny Paulino and Sean Burnett. They also dealt slugger Jose Bautista to Toronto for a backup catcher who has since left their system, and cut NL All-Star closer Matt Capps without getting anything in return because he sought a $500,000 raise. The team says it needs money to have the flexibility to make better investments going forward. So while fans wait for $6 million draft pick Jameson Taillon and $2 million draft pick Stetson Allie to develop — both right-handers throw nearly 100 mph — they're not exactly flocking to PNC Park. The gem of a stadium opened in 2001 at a cost of $262 million, with the Pirates covering $44 million, after the team long lobbied for a baseball-only venue that would maximize revenues. Attendance peaked during the inagura1 season at 2.4 million, but declined to a low of about 1.6 million last year. During the two years covered by the documents, gate receipts (more than $66 million) barely were enough to cover the expenses for ballpark and game operations, public relations, marketing and administration costs, much less payroll. Still, the club is profitable, taking in $15,008,032 in 2007 and $14,408,249 in 2008. Coonelly said Sunday the Pirates made $5.4 million in 2009.

it just seems like this team dosen't play well in Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. Hopefully this trend dosen't continue.

some are ok, some seem off.

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Had to be done, hopefully someone can step up and be the 5th starter, I doubt the front office will pick up a new starter though we need one. Bullpen should be the priority, but a starter would be nice too.

Blue skies and tailwinds James My linkhttp://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/James-Gammon-played-Lou-Brown-in-Major-League-?urn=mlb,256597 The funniest, crankiest and perhaps most-beloved manager in the history of the Cleveland Indians has died. James Gammon, who played skipper Lou Brown in the film "Major League" and its first sequel, died in Costa Mesa, Calif. on Friday, the Orlando Sentinel reports. Also a resident of Ocala, Fla., Gammon was 70. Via the Sentinel: "He had cancer two and a half years ago," his wife, Nancy, said Saturday. "It came back aggressively about a month ago in his adrenal glands and liver, and he was very weak. They couldn't do surgery or chemotherapy. He decided he wanted to come home, and we did hospice." So sad. Hopefully, with Gammon's suffering over, his spirit is in a better place. The Sentinel hits the nail on the head by describing Gammon as a "superb character actor." He had a face and a voice that were perfect for westerns, cranky grandfather types and, of course, as manager of the most hopeless team in baseball. Amid considerable hijinks, those fictional Indians (in case you missed it) won the old AL East despite their owner attempting to tank on purpose so she could move the team to Miami. (The movie, which premiered in 1989, predates the real Marlins.) For fans, the movie's characters have stayed with us ever since. If you're like me, scenes pop into your head and quotes come out of your mouth. It's long become part of baseball's popular culture. And we don't reference only Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn or Pedro Cerrano's voodoo god, Jo-Buu. Lou Brown was just as quotable: "I think you can go get him now." "Give 'em the heater, Ricky." "You may run like Mays, but you hit like [bleep]." "Don't give me this ole' bull[oney]." "Lemme think it over, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line about some whitewalls. I'll talk to ya' later." Even some of his other lines — such as "Tire World" and "Oh, I dunno" — still crack me up. It's a wonderfully nuanced performance. It wouldn't be the same movie without him. The same goes for real life, too.

I just want to tell you Mike good luck. We're all counting on you

It is simply asinine that in today's age, with so much technology available, baseball has yet to institute replay challenges for non-subjective plays. Nearly every game is on TV, and most in HD. This isn't the 1960s when the camera angles were limited, and it's not the 80s when the cameras weren't as good. The technology is incredible, but baseball, hellbent on remaining behind the times and adhering to the stupid idea that the human element is important to the game, refuses to advance itself enough to make sure that correct calls are made. I am not saying the Balls and strikes need to be replayed, and for you purists there is your human element...balls and strikes, but for home run, fair/foul, out/safe at the bags and did the fielder catch it or not there should be. Have an umpire in one of the boxes with tv and if he see's something that needs to be reviewed tells the crew chief who calls time and 2 minutes later we have a call. It's not about being right, it's about getting the call right. Armando Galarraga lost a chance at history, which sucks. Jim Joyce cost him a chance at it, which because baseball won't let him off the hook, is something he'll have to live with and hear about for the rest of his life. And that blows. I'll one up your Josh Johnson...If Aramdo Galarraga pitched for the Yankees, you'd have replay of all plays tonight.

Can this season be saved ? yes, just ask the 2003 marlins or the 2007 Rockies.. we are one month into an entire season campaign. We have been playing below our potential for a few weeks, so has the rest of the division save for the mets. we are only 3 games back with over 100 to go...people need to calm down....seriously

A cool video

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This might be the worst song ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwaSuYZ6svQ&feature=player_embedded#!

So under BCS rules, this game would have been Kansas and Kentucky. I'll take what we just got...what a tournament

I am off work because lets be honest...today should be a national holiday, and I can't drink on a workday .... GO MARLINS !!!

I have used it the last 5 years being that I live in Cleveland and it works great !! If you can afford it get the premium version so you don't have to hear the road announcers talk about our payroll all day on road games.

Not going to happen

God knows you're not in enough NCAA pools. Here's another. I didn't see any pools on the board so I made this one for anyone on the message board who wants to play. Bragging rights are at stake. go to espn.com and search: marlinsbaseball challenge password: Conine