ToadLicker

So why are you worrying about this stuff anyway Tony? A: The man asked an apparently serious reasonable question.

PP why don't you go ejaculate on some ticket contest contestants or something. There's a real discussion going on here and your juvenile nonsense isn't adding value.

I thought it was genetic? Obviously environmental/nutritional/developmental factors can override this. Lock some kid in a dark closet, sensory deprive him, feed him only twinkies through a hole in the door for 18 years and I'm betting he won't score very well even if he was a gene for gene clone of someone with a 160 IQ. To a lesser degree, this IS exactly what happens in a lot of 3rd world nations, so its not suprising they score lower. That's not a statement about the genetic intelligence potential of those people at conception though. Its a statement about how their potential has been wasted and crippled through environmental/developmental neglect. The same sort of mental degradation can be seen in children born to substance addicted mothers. They may have had genius IQ genes, but their brain development is impaired by environmental factors.

I think his question was where is your proof that those nations that do not have a public school system of having an average IQ of 100. Looking at the book you wanted to use as a sourse... well they didn't find anything to help that case. I made no claims about nations, poverty, etc. Lynn seems to attribute their lower average scores to nutritional/developmental deficiency, which I would tend to agree with. If you DON'T agree with such environmental factors as being causal, then you're subscribing to the racist "bell curve" theory position. Are you taking the racist position here?

Well since you want to use this as a source why not be completely accurate as to what this authour found: You used him as a source originally. Why did you omit the section I quoted? IMO, duplicating the contents of web sites in message board posts is pretty damn STUPID, when a link will do. As the profs say - the rest is an excercise for the student.

source? http://www.mensa.org.uk/mensa/iqlevels.html There are many standard IQ tests in use around the world. On most tests, average IQ is 100, but some tests give different numerical values to the level required for entry into Mensa, in the same way that the same temperature is expressed by different numerical values on the Fahrenheit and Celsius scale

So it would appear I'm not the only one who thinks stupidity is a problem. http://www.rlynn.co.uk/index.html My book IQ and the Wealth of Nations (co-author Tatu Vanhanen of the University of Helsinki) considers the problem of national differences in wealth and economic growth. Economists and other social scientists have been trying to solve the problem of why some nations are so rich and others so poor since Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations (1776). We argue that an important but hitherto unrecognised factor is the IQs of the populations. We give measures and estimates of average IQs in the world's 185 nations and show that national IQs are strongly related to national incomes and rates of economic growth. The principal reason for this is that nations whose populations have high IQs can produce goods and services that command high values in international markets. See below for more details of this argument and on the IQs of every nation in the world.

what about those in Africa, South America and other impoverished places that dont have public schools? I highly doubt stupidity is a truly genetic problem, if it is in any way, find me some substance behind it to back up this truly novel thesis of yours. I'm sure someone of vast intelligence like yourself has done an indepth study that us simple folk can read in an attempt to eradicate our own level of stupidity. 740581[/snapback] The average IQ is 100. QED

Cheaper than years spent in indoctrinating them in public schools

Stupidity and laziness. 5 millenia of civilization and people are still stupid and lazy. 739086[/snapback] Would you attribute the stupidity to crappy education systems, or just lack of education in general? 740515[/snapback] Genetics. Education has little to do with what we think of as intelligence. There are completely uneducated people who are quite smart. I think there needs to be some serious research into how to unlock the unused potential of the human wiring. Its been shown that planaria worms can inherit a measure of "learning" by eating ground up planaria who were previously trained. This is an interesting mechanism that suggests there may be a way to "preload" infants with something useful that maybe could cut down learning curves for them or provide some sort of "social memory" that might be able to influence against criminal activity, drug abuse, etc.. Translating worm results to people is dicy of course, but there may be something there worth a look.

http://live-shot.com/howitworks.shtml http://live-shot.com/species.shtml WTF?!?!? :blink: I'm not anti-hunting. I don't hunt, but I tolerate others doing it. This though, is flat out creepy and weird. :thumbdown

Dude was pretty harsh on DLEE. What's the matter with quiet competence?

Someone refresh my memory about who was running the FBI/DOJ at the time... it was "Torch" Reno wasn't it?

...he also was very negligent in the sex abuse scandal in the Catholic Church This is probably as much a function of a pope's relative isolation by syncophant lap-dog yes-men underlings as it is his actual position. That being said, if there were some (a lot) of the church equivalent of splashy show trials and excommunications, there would have been some uproar, but the church wouldn't have been accused of being "soft" on this issue.

Man, $100k? That seems pretty steep, considering the guy was already dead. :blink: 739124[/snapback] I imagine the judge is somewhat concerned he might decide to "graduate" up to "victims" with body temps higher than ambient. Maybe he was just "practicing" on someone not in a position to resist.... Also a concern is that someone in the neighborhood unamused by the stunt might decide to render the dude's own body temp to ambient.

The history of the world is that technological innovations seem to come "just in time" to prevent various disasters, unpleasantness, and other problems. IOW - riffing on my laziness postulate, the perspiration that drives the innovation is itself driven by the necessity of the times. ex. feeding and distributing food to large population metro areas would REQUIRE the development of transport infrastructure and automated farming methods. Population migrations to the cities also dictated more automated ag methods as farm populations declined. Even "large" cities in the early 1800's had modest populations due to available transport infrastructure limitations that could provide the necessary food. Look at a society and examine where its people are going (in all regards) and you'll get a glimpse of what kind of developments are on the horizon. Its no accident that Fulton, the Wright brothers, Ford etc did what they did when they did it. It was inevitable.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../head_theft&e=1 MORRISVILLE, Vt. - A 17-year-old Morrisville youth was being held on $100,000 bail after police said he raided a tomb in a cemetery and removed a head from a corpse. ...

Stupidity and laziness. 5 millenia of civilization and people are still stupid and lazy.

Do two years at JC first with an engineering/science emphasis. With a 4 year degree you can go OCS and be a 90 day wonder. WO's are the netherworld between enlisted and commissioned. There's only a few WO grades. It would take a degree to be promoted beyond

If Michael Schiavo posted them you'd just be calling him some sort of twisted photographer who's trying to gather sympathy for Terri's "mercy" killing. Better to gather sympathy than the death threats he was receiving :plain

The .223 is a fine varmint round. The AK round is enough to take down medium sized game - like deer. 5 round mags for the AK are available. The AK has one major advantage over a lot of other medium game rifles - the bore is chrome plated and it will operate with a fair amount of dirt and field crud in it. The SKS, an earlier semi-auto design that fires the same AK bullet, has become quite popular as a bargain deer rifle (SKS bore is chromed too) NB: news organizations frequently, and incorrectly, report SKS's as AK47's

Do states mandate specific minimum inventory makeup and inventory stocking levels for a pharmacy?

My Spanish competence only consists of some French and some knowledge of Latin, the base language for all the romance languages. I seems to have something to do with Spain selling chemical/radiological weapons to Chavez down in VE. http://www.europapress.es/europa2003/notic...0&tabID=1&ch=66

Why? Because I trust the nations police officers when they tell me the ban on assault weapons is good-especially those in big cities like Chicago who deal with AK 47s everyday(whatever your stupid red herring on their rate of fire). These are the same cops the ACLU is always going after for abuses I presume? Yea, a real trustworth crew indeed. Let me ask you this - suppose all the Clinton defined AW's are gone tomorrow. Do you think that changes anything? I've always been facinated how liberals were so focused on the cosmetic aspects of firearms. Ohhh, this one has a bayonet lug - wow, we've had a real wave of driveby bayonettings lately, that'll really cut down the human filet production! Pistol grip, mmm, that's a real tip off for a "bad gun" too. The rate of fire issue is real. You probably don't even know what an NFA firearm is do you? Yet you're willing to lie to the public about this to forward your overall firearms agenda. However, I'll give you the bennefit of the doubt for the moment though while you spend a few minutes and educate yourself before declaring you a lying propagandist. Come back when you've learned what an NFA firearm is, when they were initially regulated, and what the regulations on them are. Then we can talk SERIOUSLY about what an AW is, and if the Clintonian ban language means anything at all. I think you'll be suprised by what you find. You'll be educating yourself in 27 CFR, although there are some ATF summary publications you may want to reference too.

This part of the discussion started about F_Ms mention of assualt weapons and you spun it off onto this "one bullet per pull" thing which is just wrong. Look for yourself. Q: If the govt has control over illegal products, why are there illegal drugs and illegal weapons? A: Because they don't have that control. Anyone who worries about that which can't be controlled is a fool wasting their time chasing shadows. Prisoners in prison manufacture firearms. I've got book with a bunch of pics of prisoner made guns from some prison in (gasp) Canada! Gunsmiths on the Pak/Afgan border in towns with no power have manufactured working AK-47 copies using rudimentary hand tools. What is your plan to stop this illegal manufacture?