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  1. You could have been like FishFaninPA and titled the thread "Typical Michigan Fans" /cheap shot 953822[/snapback]
  2. What category hurricane do they expect it to be when it makes landfall around the Texas area? 953630[/snapback] 3 or 4 according to current models. And landfall will be near the Tex/La border, more than likely somewhere 200 miles east or west from the border between the states.
  3. Burger King recalls 'sacrilegious' desserts JOHN INNES THE fast-food chain, Burger King, is withdrawing its ice-cream cones after the lid of the dessert offended a Muslim. The man claimed the design resembled the Arabic inscription for Allah, and branded it sacrilegious, threatening a "jihad". The chain is being forced to spend thousands of pounds redesigning the lid with backing from The Muslim Council of Britain. It apologised and said: "The design simply represents a spinning ice-cream cone." The offending lid was spotted in a branch in Park Royal last week by business development manager Rashad Akhtar, 27, of High Wycombe. He was not satisfied by the decision to withdraw the cones and has called on Muslims to boycott Burger King. He said: "This is my jihad. How can you say it is a spinning swirl? If you spin it one way to the right you are offending Muslims." A Muslim Council spokesman said: "We commend the sensitive and prompt action that Burger King has taken."
  4. what are the chances that this is going to be bad since i dont understand all this weather crap? 953481[/snapback] Bad for Dade county? It won't be as bad as when Katrina passed through. Unlike Katrina this storm won't make landfall in Fl it seems, unless it makes landfall somewhere along the Keys and perhaps SW Fl. There will be some rain (no major flooding) and gale force wind, 50/50 chance schools get cancelled, depends how close it gets. But yeah, whatever you felt from Katrina will be more than what you will get from this imo.
  5. These are all the latest model runs on one plot.
  6. The most reliable models are the most southern ones. And obviously the BAMM is the most sadistic.
  7. They figure "This is a lead even the Marlins can't blow", a sheer sign of hatred.
  8. Gang Green is back, let the Super Bowl talk resume.
  9. The field is a nightmare, I have never seen it like this in thirteen years of going to Marlins games. And it didn't happen by accident. 951972[/snapback] You're right, I heard that Saban was out on the field Friday night pouring acid all over the field. And then he had the offensive line go out there to drag their cleats all through the infield grass as well as the outfield. Both teams play on the same field, so the Phillies had just a big of chance to have a bad hop as we did. Bad hops even happen in the best of conditions. Plus I see how the field played a role in the ball that dropped between everyone and the Jones play for sure. :plain
  10. TealFish

    USC

    He will go #1 overall 951664[/snapback] He might not even be the 1st QB to go.
  11. TealFish

    USC

    USC is a gimmick offense. I mean if you are able to get Bush, Leinhart, and like their top 6 OL-men out of the game, as well at their entire D-line they are cooked.
  12. It's pathetic how a cities like Tampa, SD, Cleveland and more can all support a new stadium for their teams... BUT tiny little itty bitty Miami cannot afford to support their MLB team. Wow for a moment there I actually thought Miami was a big town in the US. 951598[/snapback] For today's game, one of the biggest of the year, a game with big playoff implications we had 27,203 in the seats.
  13. It's not a normal thing, but he was on it before.
  14. Few symbols rival the Confederate flag for the ability to evoke such a wide range of passions. It is perhaps not surprising that those passions tend to run along racial lines. A Mason-Dixon poll conducted in January found that 77% of African-Americans believe the flag is a symbol of racism, and just 9% characterize it as a symbol of Southern heritage. Sixty-six percent of whites responding to the survey said the flag symbolizes Southern heritage, while just 21% describe it as a symbol of racism. http://www.ncac.org/cen_news/cn77confederateflag.html A Mason-Dixon poll conducted this January found that three-fourths of the African-Americans polled said the old flag symbolized oppression and racial division, while nearly as many whites said it is a symbol of heritage and history. http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/voi...0203racism.html I must have missed the link and quote you provided for your numbers. And I don't get who this phisphan guy is you talk about.
  15. So do you guys find anything wrong with wearing swasticas to school? 948061[/snapback] Yep, and you cant even compare a swastika to a confederate flag. 948062[/snapback] So we feel compassion for the jews and not the blacks? Okay I get it. :plain 948063[/snapback] I feel compassion for jews and blacks. I think slavery is evil....but I dont think the Confederate flag has much to do with slavery as you think. But we are running in circles, Ive made my points loud and clear. 948066[/snapback] But like it or not blacks associate their pain with the confederate flag yet you find nothing wrong with it worn in school.
  16. So do you guys find anything wrong with wearing swasticas to school? 948061[/snapback] Yep, and you cant even compare a swastika to a confederate flag. 948062[/snapback] So we feel compassion for the jews and not the blacks? Okay I get it. :plain Jews associate their pain to the swastica and blacks to the confederate flag.
  17. So do you guys find anything wrong with wearing swasticas to school?
  18. I am not pushing your points away. Like I said, I am not going to speak for blacks and how they feel. I might not even agree with them that the confederate flag really does represent something horrific, although even you agreed it does a bit. However for them it does completely thus it is a distraction in school, end of story.
  19. But the USA did wise up and finally decide that slavery was wrong, like Britain as well as other nations that were into slavery.? The confederecy went down fighting for the right for slavery however, and they never backed off of it.? And it stuck as a symbol for the deep south and slavery because that did fight under it. Because it represents those who died for the southern ideals. Yeah it does represent a lot now, a lot of negative connotations. And personally I think to wear that flag around is a bit ignorant. Ask people what is the most racist and oppressive symbol still worn around today, still used, and I bet you a lot would say the confederate flag. I mean you recognize the fact that it does represent quite a few negative things. And even though I find it ignorant to wear around just because of how you might be portraying yourself, I don't think it should be outlawed or anything. However, to wear it in a school that is a thin line, because aside from potentially being a distraction it could lead to stuff like this. Public school is a privledge, not a born right. Do I care if the guy down at the 7-11 wears a confederate flag hat? No not really, thats how he portrays himself. Or if my roommate marches around in Klan garb, no that is his choice. However, in a school setting that is pushing things, especially in public schools. 948031[/snapback] You brought up those comments about Blacks saying this was the most oprresive time...it wasnt, that would be under the British rule of this land, hardly during the Confederacy of the 1850s, so again, people have no idea what they are talking about and are going on propaganda and what they think happened. If you are going to call out the confederates flag, then you need to call out almost every national flag in the world. The worst slavery opression in recorded history was probably in Nigeria, with the black slave masters there that were instrumental in the slave trade. They were basically the driving force behind the slave trade. Where is the outcry for the Nigerian flag? What about the Egyptians who owned Jewish slaves? Africans in Egypt are racist? What about our quarters, which don the face of George Washington, a slave owner. Or the Jefferson Memorial? He was a slave owner, he wanted slavery to die out on its own...not outright abolish it. What about the White European Slavos (where the word is derived)? They were one of the most oppressed groups in history...many Americans have their roots from them, where is their outcry? These Slavs were sold to black masters in Africa as well...are those blacks racist because they owned whites? In the United States, blacks were under slavery for under 100 years, that pales in comparrison to most groups. Only 5% of all Blacks transported out of Africa went to America. The rest were msotly sent to South America. Where is the outcry? The Confederate battle flag is the whipping boy of this country because of the KKK and ignorance, not because of any truth. 948043[/snapback] I am not saying the people are right or wrong. I am not going to tell a black person they are wrong to find the Confederate Flag offensive to them, because hell I don't know what it is to be black in this world. In fact, most people don't. However, like I said, other nations now a days realize slavery is wrong. So they are more or less forgiven. The confederate flag is part of the past, no states use it as its state flag anymore, so now to wear it, you are digging it up from the past. Is it wrong that the flag represents what it does? Maybe, maybe not. But you have to realize that people do associate the things together, like it or not. And something like that should not be worn in a school because it will just lead to trouble some way some how, even if it is worn for completely innocent reasons, it still carries the conotations.
  20. how was the south ever in the 'majority' 948042[/snapback] As in it was more or less a democratic federal government. When Lincoln, the moderate republican, took office the south lost their power in the house, as in it was not democratic majority, so the south saw that as a problem. And yeah Lincoln was "lucky" to win as in the top candidates split votes. The some southern states didn't even put Lincoln on the ballot, not that he would have won those states anyway.
  21. The North and South were fighting for two different things, I said as much already. The North looked to the south and didn't recognize them anymore, they were completely different. Lincoln did want to perserve the nation, and no he didn't want to free pre-exsisiting slaves but wanted to stop it from growing. And yeah the South's reason to fight was for state right's, they didn't like the taxes, however... they did have representation and up until the civil war they did have the majority power in the federal government, then things did change. The south would have survived taxes, they would not survive without slavery and they thought Lincoln was going to take that away from them. Were they right? No, but this was the first time that they were not the majority in the government. A republican prez. had a republican house to work with and they were worried, thus quickly pulled out after realizing as much, even if they were wrong about their assumptions.
  22. But the USA did wise up and finally decide that slavery was wrong, like Britain as well as other nations that were into slavery. The confederecy went down fighting for the right for slavery however, and they never backed off of it. And it stuck as a symbol for the deep south and slavery because that did fight under it. Because it represents those who died for the southern ideals. Yeah it does represent a lot now, a lot of negative connotations. And personally I think to wear that flag around is a bit ignorant. Ask people what is the most racist and oppressive symbol still worn around today, still used, and I bet you a lot would say the confederate flag. I mean you recognize the fact that it does represent quite a few negative things. And even though I find it ignorant to wear around just because of how you might be portraying yourself, I don't think it should be outlawed or anything. However, to wear it in a school that is a thin line, because aside from potentially being a distraction it could lead to stuff like this. Public school is a privledge, not a born right. Do I care if the guy down at the 7-11 wears a confederate flag hat? No not really, thats how he portrays himself. Or if my roommate marches around in Klan garb, no that is his choice. However, in a school setting that is pushing things, especially in public schools.
  23. What issue is that? State rights? What right did the southern states want that they fought for? They just woke up one morning and decided they wanted out and thats it? I am not saying the North was high and mighty and were all in the right, but the South did fight more or less to try and make sure their kind of life did not change. And what makes the confederate flag racist or oppressive? Well let me ask you, what makes a swastica a symbol of hate and oppression? I mean they are both just drawings. You show them to someone who doesn't know history at all and ask them what they represent they wouldn't know what they mean. The confederate flag is what it is and the swastica is what it is because of their context. Nazis, people who persecuted people because of their way of life and religion and killed them, killed millions, lived under that flag, wore that symbol, thats what makes it a symbol of hate. Nothing about the symbol itself makes it a symbol of hate. It is what it represents that adds the meaning to it. The confederate flag flew over the states that oppressed black people, as well as other people, in horrible conditions. Made them perform labor and live in conditions that they did not exactly sign up for. This was NOT indentured survitude. I am not black, so I can not talk for blacks. But this is the internet and there are plenty of good sources you can hear what blacks think this means to them. Well, I think the flag is a symbol of the most terroristic and oppressive period in the history of black people in America. It brings back memories of the pain and the degradation of our people. And to that extent, you know, it's really interesting to me to hear people talk about the various manifestations of that flag. That's really beside the point. The constitution of the South is really beside the point. What's important about that is what was done, the culture, the civilization that meted out the most brutal punishment of the people you could imagine, and so that is what that flag means to most black Americans, I would assume. Tell, the same as it means to Ron. I can understand when Shelby Foote refers to his great grandfather with warmth and affection, and I've a great grandfather too. He's buried someplace in northern Mississippi. And he was a slave all his life. Our history is often presented to us as a triumphal march from Jamestown to Oahu, I guess, and it's all been glorious and wonderful, but our history is full of pain and loss too. And this kind of debate brings out everybody's pain and - white people lost and were injured by the terribleness of slavery and surely black people were - and we've got to find some kind of middle ground to understand each other because we can't continue to use our common history or bits of it to continue to injure each other. That is not the way to march toward a common destiny. Check this out, it is the transcript from a discussion about this that was on PBS, it also has people from the south who admit that they have black friends who find the flag offensive, but yet they find it full of pride. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/ja.../flag_5-29.html
  24. Yeah the Civil war was about state's rights, the right to own slaves. Also if you notice it was the slave states vs. the free states with a few slave states who decided not to break off, just something to note. The North looked to the South and didn't recognize them anymore. Whereas the North had developed, had factories, had big cities, the South was still the same, mostly farm land kinda stuff. It was a completely different culture all together. Northerners looked down on their southern brethren. Did the North think blacks were equal? No. That becomes clear after the fact, but the northerners were religously against slavery as well. And do you think it is a coin-inky-dink the 7 southern states broke off as soon as Lincoln won the election, even before he was brought into office? I mean he won on the platform that slavery would not expand anymore. During the same election the south lost senate power, so they were vulnderable for the first time. Southerners need the slavery to survive. The southern economy was based on slavery and they could not have it taken away and they knew it. Is slavery the only reason the war was fought? No, but it is what brought it up and caused it to bubble up from the years prior.
  25. Kids should be able to wear the confederate flag on shirts in a tasteful manner 947930[/snapback] Do you feel the same about swastikas? Seriously, because both things represent the worst kinds of oppression. And what would be a tasteful manner anyway? 947965[/snapback] Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the confederate flag still fly above the state capitol of Mississippi and a few other southern states considered the "deep south?" 947980[/snapback] Not in its entirety. Miss. has it confined to a corner. South Carolina had it up until the turn of the mellenium then they changed it.
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