LRizzle

why is anyone happy about this? ew. s****y return agreed. Y'all are underselling escobar's talent and team friendly contract. I fully expect this to turn into a huge steal for TB. 5M for a solid SS and all you give up is a 23 year old who had a .750 OPS in AA ball... Marlins just wanted to get rid of the 5M. BUT THEY SAID THEY'RE REINVESTING IT. REINVEST-ING IT!!!!!!!!!!!REINVEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to make my stance clear that I'm fine with us trading Escobar, especially if we reinvest it, but he's a very valuable player at a prime position. His defense alone makes him worth 5M. He's young, has potential, and is team controlled for the next two years. Just saying, if the Rays were intersted, I would've loved to see a trade more along the lines of Escobar/Marisnick/Eovaldi for Hellickson. And have Hellickson and Turner be the foundation of the rotation for years to come with Fernandez joining in. But that's just me.. ya know. Having a plan and willing to lock up young established players. But that's too much to ask for as a Marlins fan.

why is anyone happy about this? ew. s****y return agreed. Y'all are underselling escobar's talent and team friendly contract. I fully expect this to turn into a huge steal for TB. 5M for a solid SS and all you give up is a 23 year old who had a .750 OPS in AA ball... Marlins just wanted to get rid of the 5M.

I'd be very Ok giving McLouth 2 years at 5-6M to be our 4th OF and play some LF or CF when injury or rest is needed or if one of them get in a slump. And then next year when Yelich takes Pierres spot, he'd continue the same role and offer some veteran leadership etc. Oh wait, we have Gorkys. Forget I said anything.

All this trade Stanton bizness needs to stop. It's upsetting. :verysad

Y'all are forgetting Carl Pavano = ACE

This is all just for show. Put the damn trade through already so that Samson can go back on his word from last week and trade Nolasco already. And if the league or Selig want to punish the Marlins, figure out a way to punish them without punishing the fans. We've been through enough, taking away something cool like the all-star game would be lame.

The trade getting rejected is about the worst possible thing that could happen. We'd get all the negative reactions and backlash from FAs and other players, we would have several unhappy players and that would end in one of two ways. Them being shipped individually throughout the season, causing our rebuilding phase to go along more slowly. Or we continue to overpay drastically for players underperforming and Loria does nothing and we sit around being at best a .500 club. Nothing positive would come from this trade getting rejected. The damage is done, best thing now is to move on and hope they get it right this time and sign the right guys.

Funny how the marlins didnt want to get rid of Reyes....but they did. And Toronto insisted on us taking the cancer in Escobar.....and we took him. Yunel Escobar is a career .766 OPS SS owed 5M. He had an awful year last year, true. But, we took him mainly to take SOME money off of the Jays books, and also because we fully intend on moving him. I'd be surprised if Escobar and Nolasco are on our roster come opening day.

And there's no way we trade Nolasco without eating salary or taking back a bad contract, albeit less bad. No one will say, "here Marlins, take an ok whatever prospect for that enticing 11M SP you got there that got you a 4.5ERA in a pitchers park in the NL. Can't wait to see what he does for us."

Anyone who thinks giving an average 3.5-4.0 ERA pitcher 20M a year for another 3 years just because he's 'consistent' and gets 200 innings like Buehrle is a good idea... come on. Same thing with Reyes and Bell. My main problem is that all those awful contracts were given to begin with and no repercussions or consequences took place. FO is still in one piece while everyone but them has suffered for their decisions. Players getting flown around like it's a video game, community getting duped, fans buying stuff and now disheartened. That's what bothers me the most. This is what we should've done to begin with but everyone in the marlins FO was too busy smelling their own farts they created an awful overpaid team that still had holes. And as much as I like the moves from a baseball standpoint (and hate it from every other stand point), now it's going to be very hard to sign certain players without giving them no trade clauses or at a good price. No one is going to want to come to Miami now and give us a discount or be more inclined to sign here, much of the opposite.

I feel like Roddy Piper did in "They Live". Who has their trusty alien viewing ray-bans? LoMo should've been this for Halloween. I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... And I'm all out of bubblegum. http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso

Well I mean, they have to sign SOMEONE. But I mean, I'm not making any predictions at all whether we roll out a team next year with a 25M or 50M payroll. I mean, if we trade Nolasco, fielding a team around 25M is a possibility. I'm saying in terms of pure baseball, I'm ok with the trade. We have a few very good young pieces. Then we're getting these Jay prospects. The ones we got from the Tigers and Eovaldi. There's potential here. But there's no way to defend what Loria has done to the community.

I'm sorta in the minority here, not freaking out about the trade. I always felt the contracts we gave Reyes and Buehrle were awful and would prevent us from making other moves. I think we got one foot stuck in quicksand and instead of just sitting there and slowly getting sucked in for the next couple of years, we completely blew up the team and cleared space. Between Yelich, Fernandez, Turner, Eovaldi, Cishek, Stanton, along with the TOR players we got and some FA's, we could be a very good team in 2014-2015. Who the hell knows? (probably not but I'm hoping ) I'm much more upset about the way this all happened. How this franchise has been tarnished further, all the people that bought memorabilia or jerseys that won't be used, people that bought season tickets, all the schools and art programs that got shut down because the county gave the money to the stadium instead. This stadium created so many issues and debt and problems, and now this is what happens? In terms of pure baseball, I'm actually kind of OK with this, I like young hungry players and building from the bottom instead of trying to buy a pennant. But, everything else... ruined. So bad... Awful really.

The Tino hiring came from the top perhaps Loria? Not Redmond's. Ah sh*t, he's Loria's guy? f***, our guys are gonna hit like .210 this year combined. We hit .244 this year which was a franchise low.

Jose Oquendo