March 22, 200422 yr What A Big Man You Are, You Believe In Open Source and Stealing Music I'm not saying I love Windows, Word, Monopolies or whatever, but I like the 17th Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Steal Thy Neighbors Code. What makes everyone feel so damn entitled to other people's product? I mean, the arguments for legitmizing virtual piracy are terrible, yet every "progressive minded person" from Michael Moore to the average leftist college student are for it. Why? There are two reasons. 1. Everyone is a cheap bastard. Everyone has a little cheap blood in them, because if we can get something for free, nothing is going to stop us. I mean, if we can make our STEALING sound like it is something that is not only morally sound, but actually ideologically progressive, we feel good about stealing. In fact, stealing makes us a good person! But when it comes right down to it, you're too cheap to pay for someone else's code or someone else's music. Hey, if you didn't right the Windows source code then too bad. I mean, Windows isn't a resource that cannot be had elsewhere. It is as simple as getting different code and selling it. The same people that are for open source are convinced that Red Hat and Apple OSX are better than windows. So if you think that is true quit your b***hing and keep your other operating systems. The truth is that small corporations want to steal windows code, sell the same exact thing with some tune ups, and because they had no cost of development sell it for less money. So pretty much, they want to steal market share for a product that is not even theirs. People, there is no LAW saying you cannot make different operating systems. They already exist. That's like saying just because Ford had the Model T no one else had the ability to produce cars. That's ridiculous. Operating systems aren't some sort of resource without substitute and in fact, because operating systems are entirly code, it is as simple as devising more operating systems to create substitutes. I repeat, Windows isn't a steel, coal, or milk monopoly, where if someone controlled all the milk, you cannot possibly get anything close to milk anywhere else. So I'll lay it out for you. If you want to go steal Windows open source code or a corporation's music, how would you like if someone walked into your house and stole your milk? I heard all the crap, that code and music are works of art, entitled to everyone in the human race. NEWS FLASH, you won't die if you don't have windows or the newest remix of Hey Ya. YOU are not entitled to someone else's music or source code anymore than I am entitled to walk into your house and steal your milk. People actually need milk to survive and grow healthy bones, but do you see yourself stealing an actual necesity of life? No, because you know damn well stealing is wrong and you just don't have the balls to actually take something tangible from someone. Lastly, do not tell me that music or windows are not good enough anymore to pay for. If you think music sucks, then why are you stealing it? Taking something that is not yours is not sharing and you are not entitled to it it's stealing, end of story. 2. People who love stealing music and are for open source see it as a means to and end: hurting big EVIL corporations. Yeah, people feel that anything that hurts big evil Microsoft or music corporations must be inherently a good thing. They must also think that the whole world should be communist and everyone should sit on their lazy asses and let someone else do their hard work. So stop feeling so high, mighty, and moral because you support open source or any other vehicle of cyberstealing. The movement for open source is just a bunch of greedy programmers wanting to tap the market for someone else's product instead of selling their own. The movement for the "spreading of art" is just ideological bulls*** that is nothing more than a justification of stealing. Furthermore, Hey Ya is not art. By the way, I have used Adobe products and other operating systems and guess what! I don't like them any more than I like crappy Windows computers. Anyway, if they were any better, you wouldn't have to steal Windows code! http://www.xanga.com/craigramblings
March 22, 200422 yr Author windows code belongs only to windows, that's why you see only microsaoft windows, not red hat windows, apple windows, oracle windows, kellogs windows and ect. to make it open source, anyone could take windows source code an sell it.
March 22, 200422 yr Author not to endorse religion, but i think most of these are good rules to live by, hypocrite.
March 22, 200422 yr we already had a long thread about this awhile back...why not just bring that thread back. burning cds = :thumbup as well
March 22, 200422 yr Author obviously you would of been one of those guys who would of said to moses, "hey, that's some pretty cool stuff, but I ain't givin' up my golden cow." Game set match.
March 22, 200422 yr I fail to see the connection between downloading music and stealing. It has oft been claimed that downloading is stealing, but honestly how so? What is the difference between, say, downloading songs on the internet and taping them when they come on the radio? I used to do the latter before Napster (and I wasn't alone), no one ever said that was wrong. The movie industry has things perfectly. I pay for DVDs only when I have seen the movie, liked it, and thought I would want to see it again. I also know that I am not going to be buying a set of five movies, when I really only want one. That would be foolish would it not? What is the difference between buying a box movie set for just one movie and buying a CD for just one or two songs? I refuse to do either, I feel they are pointless and an extreme waste of money. I asked this when we had this discussion before, it was never really answered so I'll bring it up again: I have an iPod, my friend had the S&M set, and I wanted to put it into my iPod. I brought it to my house, ripped it into MP3 form, put all the songs in my iPod, and returned it to him. Didn't pay a cent. Is this wrong?
March 22, 200422 yr More often then not, I do not see movies in theaters. I find the experience to be bothersome and overexpensive.
March 22, 200422 yr I just wish they'd lower the price of CD's. Weren't the labels supposed to changed CD prices? Also, it seems like DVD prices have gone up, too. I don't download music, but I do buy a lot of CD's and DVD's and I, as a consumer, feel ripped off sometimes. Although, in the past, my cousin had given me some movies that were currently running in theatres on DVD. But, I ended up buying the DVD's for them anyways (the main one I can remember was Punch Drunk Love, which I'd seen in theatres twice by the time I got the DVD). Stealing is wrong, but so it overinflating the price of something. LOWER PRICES (That's my solution, don't know if it's right, don't really care. Besides, 99 cents isn't too much too pay for a song... but a DVD for 21 dollars is downright booty).
March 23, 200422 yr Author we will stop "stealing" from them when they stop stealing from us No, stealing is when someone breaks into your house and drinks your milk. Charging high prices for luxuries of life is not "stealing." What is stealing is taking something from someone they didn't give to you. It's rather simple.
March 23, 200422 yr Author I really hope you people don't think you're good christians. Stealing is stealing, there's nothing more to it. At least you admit it.
March 23, 200422 yr I really hope you people don't think you're good christians. Stealing is stealing, there's nothing more to it. At least you admit it. I fail to see downloading music as my reason for going to hell. Sorry.
March 23, 200422 yr Sorianofan is the judge of who a good Christian is. :thumbup Yall should do file transfers through AIM...its fast and easy if you set it up. :thumbup
March 23, 200422 yr Author oh boy! im a bad christian. im sure your not so "good" yourself I'm a betetr christian than most people, but people here know my beliefs concerning religion.
March 23, 200422 yr Author Sorianofan is the judge of who a good Christian is. :thumbup Yall should do file transfers through AIM...its fast and easy if you set it up. :thumbup Isn't there something called the 8th commandment Juanky and furman? I didn't write this stuff. so if I break the fifth, I see no reason to go to hell either. I can jsut choose which beliefs I like, which I don't, and call my self a good jew/christian! I'm definitely going to heaven now. hypocrites.
March 23, 200422 yr P.S. In order to be a Christian, one must believe Jesus teachings on how one gets to heaven, and have a personal relationship with Jesus through prayer and whatnot. :thumbup I dont feel like getting into ANOTHER argument about downloading music. Have Admin or Das or someone pull up the old thread before you cream your jeans or somethin.
March 23, 200422 yr Author Yeah the whole blind faith thing I lack. However, do you then admit as long as you have faith in jesus you can openly live a life of sin? furthermore, do you have true faith if you openly break a commandment sent down by his father? No and no. Stealing is stealing, stop pretending it is something else. Fine admit you steal, I already know that. However, it is against the 8th commandment. Again, you're the guy who said to moses, "That sounds like some pretty good stuff, but I'm still going to pray to my golden cow."
March 23, 200422 yr im sure everyone has stolen sometime in their life. Downloading music is not stealing.
March 23, 200422 yr Author No, it is. They said, "don't take our stuff" and you did. C'mon dude, it's stealing. DUH. I am evil furman, I am evil furman...(as furman dances over his grave in a devil suit)
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