July 14, 200422 yr "Everytimne some one confronts you, you put down their intelligence or make some other stupid remark. How about actually disucssing your opionon." Obviously both manny ramirez and guerrero are domincan, so that is a joke. Furthermore, anyone who would take a player with a OBP ..50 less and a slugging close to .100 less than another player is STUPID. "BTW, I think Jayson Stark knows just a bit more about baseball than you, considering he covers it for a living. But then again, you are Soriano Fan, so you know all. " Reading the above, Stark is STUPID. Weren't these same guys calling for Boston to be in 1st place. After all, they do it FOR A LIVING. Oh wait, boston is 7 BACK and now they call the yankees for first place. The guys at ESPN are idiots...much like other people
July 14, 200422 yr Author Some Stats.... Guerrero: .345 AVG 20 HR 77 RBI .591 SLG .392 OBP .969 Fielding % Manny: .344 AVG 26 HR 77 RBI .682 SLG .437 OBP .965 Fielding % Well damn, Manny is having the better year. :blink:
July 14, 200422 yr Author yes, I was right, you and everyone else is/was wrong 457779[/snapback] Buy yourself a cookie.
July 14, 200422 yr Some Stats.... Guerrero: .345 AVG 20 HR 77 RBI .591 SLG .392 OBP .969 Fielding % Manny: .344 AVG 26 HR 77 RBI .682 SLG .437 OBP .965 Fielding % Well damn, Manny is having the better year. :blink: 457712[/snapback] But Manny has a lot more support in the lineup. That's why it goes to Vlad it comes down to this: If Anaheim makes the playoffs, Vlad is MVP, if not Manny is MVP (if they're end of season numbers are similar to what they are now)
July 14, 200422 yr See, here is what I don't understand. The award is Most Valuable Player. Not Most Valuable Hitter. Not Most Valuable Offensive Player. Not Most Valuable Runner. Most Valuable Player. This means that the award should go to whomever in the American League means most to their team in all aspects of the game. Vlad anchors the offense (just look at his numbers), helps the running game, AND is very good at defense plus that ridiculous nuclear missile he has attached to his right shoulder. He is the Most Valuable Player, hands down. 456223[/snapback] blah blah blah, bul bull bull oh yeah, the stats are clearly in Ramirez's favor. You are just prejudice of dominicans... 457635[/snapback] I'm down with Dominicans And regardless, they are BOTH DOMINICAN.
July 14, 200422 yr I'll second what Mays said. You take Manny out of Boston, and they still have David Ortiz, Johnny Damon, and an otherwise very potent offense. Take Vlad out of Anaheim and you have Guillen and basura.
July 14, 200422 yr I'll second what Mays said. You take Manny out of Boston, and they still have David Ortiz, Johnny Damon, and an otherwise very potent offense. Take Vlad out of Anaheim and you have Guillen and basura. 458447[/snapback] That's also the main reason why Bonds is MVP over Rolen. The Giants lose Bonds and who's their best player? Ray Durham. Ray Durham has missed the year, so the best player in the lineup has been...MICHAEL TUCKER. Meanwhile, take Rolen out of the lineup, they still have Albert Pujols, Jim Edmonds, Edgar Renteria, Reggie Sanders, etc.
July 14, 200422 yr If I didn't absolutely hate Barry Bonds I'd vote for him. That said he's still the most valuable player in the NL cuz the Giants' team SUCKS without him and Schmidt. Honestly, you guys have nothing.
July 14, 200422 yr If I didn't absolutely hate Barry Bonds I'd vote for him. That said he's still the most valuable player in the NL cuz the Giants' team SUCKS without him and Schmidt. Honestly, you guys have nothing. 458512[/snapback] But in that division, Bonds and Schmidt is all we need, and the postseason is mostly luck so we still have a good shot Bonds makes a 30-40 game difference every year for the Giants
July 15, 200422 yr Author What does who else is in your lineup matter? It should be who is having the best year, not who is having a good year and team sucks. Plus Vlad has a guy named Garrett Anderson as well. He is no slouch.
July 15, 200422 yr Author The "Valuable" tag is a load of crap. Its the most outstanding playe when you get down to it. If you are using that logic with Stark's picks, then Rolen cant be the MVP.
July 16, 200422 yr if it's by best player this year, it's Bonds and Manny if it's by most valuable to their team, it's Bonds and either Guerrero or Pudge
July 16, 200422 yr Some Stats.... Guerrero: .345 AVG 20 HR 77 RBI .591 SLG .392 OBP .969 Fielding % Manny: .344 AVG 26 HR 77 RBI .682 SLG .437 OBP .965 Fielding % Well damn, Manny is having the better year. :blink: 457712[/snapback] But Manny has a lot more support in the lineup. That's why it goes to Vlad it comes down to this: If Anaheim makes the playoffs, Vlad is MVP, if not Manny is MVP (if they're end of season numbers are similar to what they are now) 458413[/snapback] Uh, Manny bats BEHIND Ortiz and Nomar isn't exactly "protection" in the lineup...garrett anderson is. Juanky: Of course they are both dominican, if you read a post shortly after the other one, I even said so. Furthermore, the point of saying that is because there is no logical reason to choose guerrero over a clearly superior manny, who's season is one of the best in the AL in recent years thus far.
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