If we're going to give up a top prospect or one of our best pitchers I'd like to get a guy with a career OBP better than .329

isnt Jones arby eligible though?

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What does that matter?

 

We're talking about this season. 2005 is a million years from now.

 

And to a previous post, yes, I think the Marlins could get alot more for Penny than just Jacque Jones. Penny has a chance to the ace of a staff somewhere else, especially if they can afford him in upcoming years.

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Well if he was arbitration eligible it would matter alot. And since we are playing for this year, I would much rather have Penny over the .250avg of Jacque Jones, thank you very much. Now if it we were talking Teixeira, I would be all for it.

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Occassionally my dear friend Monsieur Ramp you have your head so far up your butt I'm surprised you can even find the keyboard.

 

I'm linking Jones 3 year stats from ESPN, look at his numbers in the 3-4-5-6 positions, how he hits better on the road than away, how he hits on better on grass than on turf and then if all that doesn't convince (and let's face we're just passin' time here because we don't want to face facts about where this team is going without SOMEBODY), look at his freakin' situation stats. Close and late the man is a monster, batting .346, men on two outs, .305, scoring position two outs .299, man on 3rd < 2 outs .329.

 

If those and the rest of his situational stats don't look a cure for what ails the Fish I can't imagine who does.

 

I don't mind you disagreeing but at least give the man the credit he deserves.

 

ESPN 3yr Situational Stats for Jacque Jones

 

 

Still love ya buddy

Not sure what I said that was so wrong. Id rather have Brad Penny over Jacque Jones. But if it was for someone like Teixeira I would be all for it. I also said he is having a rough year average wise and usually stinks up the joint vs lefties.

Not sure what I said that was so wrong. Id rather have Brad Penny over Jacque Jones. But if it was for someone like Teixeira I would be all for it. I also said he is having a rough year average wise and usually stinks up the joint vs lefties.

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Teixera aint going anywhere - I wish you guys would realize that.

 

Mench, Nix, Delucci - those guys are more likely to be traded for.

I like the idea, but I think it would come at the cost of Murphy or another highly rated pitching prospect because I doubt that the Twins would want another OF/1B. Would it be worth it especially with the chance to lose Penny/Pavano next season?

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You bring up a good point but the object is to win now.Last year the Fish traded away A.Gon who will be a very good 1b in Majors.I'll take him over Choi right now at 1b.

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And you are definetly crazy for making that last statement.

Not sure what I said that was so wrong. Id rather have Brad Penny over Jacque Jones. But if it was for someone like Teixeira I would be all for it. I also said he is having a rough year average wise and usually stinks up the joint vs lefties.

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Teixera aint going anywhere - I wish you guys would realize that.

 

Mench, Nix, Delucci - those guys are more likely to be traded for.

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actually, Nix has been deemed untouchable by Texas and Teixeria could very well be moved especially for a good pitcher(even though that doesnt make much sense)

Not sure what I said that was so wrong. Id rather have Brad Penny over Jacque Jones. But if it was for someone like Teixeira I would be all for it. I also said he is having a rough year average wise and usually stinks up the joint vs lefties.

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Teixera aint going anywhere - I wish you guys would realize that.

 

Mench, Nix, Delucci - those guys are more likely to be traded for.

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actually, Nix has been deemed untouchable by Texas and Teixeria could very well be moved especially for a good pitcher

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I know Nix has been deemed untouchable. But I seriously doubt Teixera is moved before he is.

 

And still, Mench, Delucci - there are your options. If you want to deal Penny for Tex, go for it - but get me someone else too. I dont like betting on a bat - effects the game far less than a pitcher.

 

I am of the mind, however, that we can live without Penny or even Pavano because we have some solid talent coming up in Murphy, Tankersley, etc. But I want to maximize Penny's value.

maximize Penny's value?

 

Penny for Teixeira is an awesome deal, especially considering Tex's age

 

not sure why you dont like this deal in any way

I remember reading an article on ESPN.com that the Rangers were ready to trade Texeira to the Braves for Russ Ortiz before the all-star break but the Braves backed off. Texas may have changed their minds about trading Texeira for a starter after Texeira's current hot streak, though. Texas does have two of their best prospects, Ramon Nivar and Adrian Gonzalez, who could be ready for the big leagues now in AAA, and could fill in if Texas were to trade Texeira.

 

Do I think it will happen? No, but I don't think it would be totally out of the question.

yup jones is better than walker or finley

yup jones is better than walker or finley

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no he isnt, well atleast not better than Walker