January 10, 200521 yr Heckeroo, say you had a son that played high school football, and at a big game, he catches a TD. Your son acts just like Randy Moss in the endzone. You going to say the same thing? If so, I'll drop it because you are too far gone on this issue to discuss anything with. 651952[/snapback] is it the right thing to do? hell no did he earn it? sure, i guess so this would also be much less tolerated in high school football though. I play high school football, and i've never seen anything near it. It would be a much bigger deal. You could compare this to sticking up a number 1 running into the endzone after an 80 yard pass, what our WR did, and he got flagged 15 yards for that. Moss wasn't even flagged for this. So it's a fairly moot point, but a good question nonetheless. the NFL is full of people like randy moss. They're just not good enough to get enough chances to show it off as randy moss does, cause he gets so many TD's.
January 10, 200521 yr You can never, ever "earn" the right to act like that. That's all there is to it.
January 10, 200521 yr You can never, ever "earn" the right to act like that. That's all there is to it. 651967[/snapback] maybe that wasn't the right word once he's in the endzone, he has the choice to do whatever he wants, because he was good enough to get there
January 10, 200521 yr I don't understand how that works out. Yes, he earns the right to celebrate. Pump his fist.. hug his teammates, what have you. Even dancing like T.O., while it's annoying, is not lewd or over the line. No, he does not earn the right to act like he did.
January 10, 200521 yr I don't understand how that works out. Yes, he earns the right to celebrate. Pump his fist.. hug his teammates, what have you. Even dancing like T.O., while it's annoying, is not lewd or over the line. No, he does not earn the right to act like he did. 651978[/snapback] i don't see a difference between TO's celebrations and this one moss was taunting opposing fans, TO the opposing team
January 10, 200521 yr The difference between T.O. and Moss is that Randy's celebration was vulgar! Don't play dumb!
January 10, 200521 yr The difference between T.O. and Moss is that Randy's celebration was vulgar! Don't play dumb! 651991[/snapback] TO's prior celebrations are just as innapropriate as Moss's, just in other facets
January 10, 200521 yr The difference between T.O. and Moss is that Randy's celebration was vulgar! Don't play dumb! 651991[/snapback] Yeah, because nobody ever sees a guy bent over on a football field.
January 10, 200521 yr OK, I stopped reading this because it's a pointless 3 pages. Here's what I think about what I've read. - I don't know what Moss did, the NFL is boring and I rarely watch non-Dolphins games unless I have nothing better to do. But from what I gather, he pretended to moon the crowd. I'd probably think that was funny if I was watching as a completely impartial person. - Race has everything and nothing to do with this. It has everything to do with it because it gets brought up all the time, yet nothing because believe it or not we all have asses attached to our bodies. - Ass isn't a horrible word. Ass Ass Ass Ass Ass. Cursing is fun, it should be done more often. - I think what MarlinFan was trying to say is that in the MLB if the other pitcher has balls they'll make the showboats have consequences for their actions. However, this doesn't happen as much as it needs to (not that celebrating is bad, but hitting people is shunned now) anymore, and if this wasn't what he meant then he's got issues because the MLB isn't perfect. If anything, the NHL is the best league for anti-showboating because fighting is legal. The players take care of each other and it's generally alot more classy than other sports even though it is regarded as the most violent. - Celebrations are fun. Let's do them more often.
January 10, 200521 yr CFDodge, this should make you happy. Chris Berman just said that he offended the stadium because he pointed at the scoreboard during the game. I love it. The Green Bay homerism and "guilty until proven innocent" nature of ESPN.
January 10, 200521 yr I saw that. I'm not from the upper midwest. I was rooting for the Vikings. But I agree with him 100%.
January 10, 200521 yr I saw that. I'm not from the upper midwest. I was rooting for the Vikings. But I agree with him 100%. 652030[/snapback] W.T.F. So fans chanting "SCORE-BOARD-SCORE-BOARD" is gay too?
January 10, 200521 yr What fans do is completely different. Fans cross the line but you know what, they're fans. While I'd conduct myself civilly as a fan, I can't complain that some fans don't.
January 10, 200521 yr What fans do is completely different. Fans cross the line but you know what, they're fans. While I'd conduct myself civilly as a fan, I can't complain that some fans don't. 652051[/snapback] So why again is it ok for the fan to act immaturely but not the player? Because the fan paid for admission but the player didn't?
January 10, 200521 yr Because players are expected to conduct themselves. They are representing themselves, their teammates, their city, and the sanctioning body. Kids are watching these guys. Fans are different. The camera is usually not focused on them so they can do what they please as far as I'm concerned. I shouldn't have to explain this :banghead
January 10, 200521 yr IMO the players and fans have to conduct themselves because both are representing their team and city.
January 10, 200521 yr Because players are expected to conduct themselves. They are representing themselves, their teammates, their city, and the sanctioning body. Kids are watching these guys. Fans are different. The camera is usually not focused on them so they can do what they please as far as I'm concerned. I shouldn't have to explain this :banghead 652068[/snapback] Anyone who considers the actions of an individual to represent a larger body is a complete moron. Just because someone with curly hair gives me a bad haircut doesn't mean I'm never going to get my haircut in that city or by someone with curly hair. Then again, you bring up the uber-weak, "but the kids were watching" argument. Here's a wacky idea, tell the kid it isn't right to do that and then drop it. Also, most kids by the age they're 8 have seen someone get mooned and just because someone does it on TV means they will. And even if they do, it's their parents' fault and their own. My mother instilled the fear of God in me when I was five years old so I never did something that would get me in major trouble and if I did, my mom would humiliate me in front of someone. If parents quit having the TV, video games, and internet raising their kids, then they would know better.
January 10, 200521 yr so he faked showing his ass and there is all this hubaloo over this? wow Moss is the man, you dont want him dancing then shut him down
January 10, 200521 yr Whatever Fritz, I've stated my two cents enough, I'm just going to agree to disagree.
January 10, 200521 yr so he faked showing his ass and there is all this hubaloo over this? wow Moss is the man, you dont want him dancing then shut him down 652128[/snapback] Joe Buck really blew it out of proportion.
January 10, 200521 yr so he faked showing his ass and there is all this hubaloo over this? wow Moss is the man, you dont want him dancing then shut him down 652128[/snapback] Joe Buck really blew it out of proportion. 652140[/snapback] Yeah, lest we forget that the game was on Fox. The same channel that brings you shows like, "Who's Your Daddy?", "The Littlest Bachelor", "Who Wants to Marry A Multi-Millionaire?", "Temptation Island", and "The Simpsons" a show where one of the main characters has made a trademark of mooning people.
January 10, 200521 yr Also, gotta love how Fox cut to commercial during the "moment of silence" for Reggie White. Very classy of Fox. Maybe Joe Buck could be more classy and quit doing ads for Budweiser. Doesn't he know that alcoholism and drunk driving are huge problems in this country? Alright, I'm done beating a dead horse.
January 10, 200521 yr joe buck sounded like an idiot. he sounded like randy was going around flipping the fans off. wait, didnt jake plummer do that a few weeks back and got almost no reaction? :mischief2
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