January 10, 200521 yr I'm a little confused as to how race became involved in this... Iowa saying he acted like a thug doesn't even remotely come close to "acting black"...if saying "thug" equals "black", what's next, taking thug out of the dictionary because its racist? Don't look too much into it man. And I'm sure Packers fans are all racist bigots, I mean it's not like their team is comprised of 75% blacks.
January 10, 200521 yr Fritz don't take what I said out of context. But since you MUST, I will restate everything. I thank God that this classless showboating wouldn't be tolerated in MLB. In the Frank Francisco and LA v. CHC events, the fans were the one's to cross the lines first.
January 10, 200521 yr What's wrong with wearing an afro CFDodge? Is he supposed to act white for people to like him? 651854[/snapback] Nothing's wrong with wearing an afro. If you're implying that acting white means exercising good judgment, being humble and classy, etc, than yes he needs to "act white." I for one do not think that implies acting white at all. 651860[/snapback] Well then why even mention the fact that he wore an afro? How is that begging for a racial issue to be brought up? 651867[/snapback] Because to *some* people, that will fuel the fire. I am not excusing racists, nor am I excusing Randy Moss.
January 10, 200521 yr I can't believe this thread has turned into racial issues either. People think Moss is a child because of the way he acts, not because he is black. But like I said, his team won, and he had a nice game, so what's the point of this argument again??
January 10, 200521 yr He had a nice day, and his team won. Does anything else really matter? No. This is 2 pages of worthless arguing (so far). 651868[/snapback] Badabing. We have a winner.
January 10, 200521 yr The Tyler Palko thing had two days worth of discussion afterwards. And yes, he hasn't been a professional for what, 7 years now...
January 10, 200521 yr No, racial slurs are not necessary. In this instance, Randy Moss showing his ass (pardon the pun), rocking the fro, and acting ignorant during the post game interview was just begging for a racial issue to be brought up. You, like he, are avoiding the primary issue. 651851[/snapback] Wait, so having an afro makes you some sort of thug? Wow, so I guess if a girl has highlights I guess that gives me free reign to call her a whore because a lot of pornstars have highlights? Also, Tyler Palko (QB of Pitt) dropped the F-bomb on national TV at a Notre Dame game (in Notre Dame and last I checked, Notre Dame is a private, Catholic institution) so where was the "outrage" for his utterance? I'm sure a "but he's a young guy in college and he was excited and just let it slip" will be the response. 651872[/snapback] Dale Earnhardt Jr has done that. So has Chad Knaus. They're both NASCAR guys and you know what, I didn't make excuses for them. If you're trying to make a case that I'm being harder on Moss than I would be to a white athlete, you're wrong. All I'm saying is that Moss is harming the image of the sport and of black athletes.
January 10, 200521 yr Author I'm a little confused as to how race became involved in this... Iowa saying he acted like a thug doesn't even remotely come close to "acting black"...if saying "thug" equals "black", what's next, taking thug out of the dictionary because its racist? Don't look too much into it man. And I'm sure Packers fans are all racist bigots, I mean it's not like their team is comprised of 75% blacks. 651877[/snapback] well it doesnt bother me because race had nothing to do with it in the first place.. and i dont feel the need to argue that in anyway. I feel sorry for people that immediatley pull the race card. People that make race an issue are just trying to avoid what's right in front of them and that's that Moss is an immature punk who only thinks of himself.
January 10, 200521 yr You guys, would you give it up?? Fritz thinks the media is out to get every n***a with a mouth, and IowaMarlinFan hates Moss. This argument is going nowhere fast......and people are just going to get all up in arms, so can this stop?
January 10, 200521 yr Moss is just immature. Period. He'll never grow up or think about others ahead of himself. It's a shame too, because he could be a great ambasador for the youth of America if he had any sense of the world around him at all. Note to Randy: The world is watching your extreme talents. Kids are watching. You are a role model wether you like it or not. 651852[/snapback] Why should he be a role model, when you go to your job everyday thinking, I better be a role model for the kids! Its not like he his killing anybody or doing ANYTHING illegal he is just having fun. 651865[/snapback] ya know exactly. like it or not, he is. its just a reflection of his personality for not caring.. it's just the type of person he is, not a very good one. 651870[/snapback] So blaming parental incompetence makes what he did a bad thing? Even the most mediocre of parents knows to tell their kids that athletes are not to be imitated because they don't pay rent, cook dinner, do laundry, etc. Also, I never argued he was a good person, but for everyone to be outraged because he pretended to moon someone is just foolish. I mean, I'm sure you guys have never mooned someone or played a joke on somebody.
January 10, 200521 yr You guys, would you give it up?? Fritz thinks the media is out to get every n***a with a mouth, and IowaMarlinFan hates Moss. This argument is going nowhere fast......and people are just going to get all up in arms, so can this stop? 651888[/snapback] If you dont like this argument, dont come to the thread, pretty simple!
January 10, 200521 yr Sure, I've mooned someone and played jokes, Fritz. But none of us has ever made a fool out of ourselves and our team on national television.
January 10, 200521 yr If anything, Fritz is being racist against blacks here by assuming "thug" and "gangster" means "black" and "bad".........
January 10, 200521 yr Sure, I've mooned someone and played jokes, Fritz. But none of us has ever made a fool out of ourselves and our team on national television. 651896[/snapback] Who cares? Just live and let live.
January 10, 200521 yr If anything, Fritz is being racist against blacks here by assuming "thug" and "gangster" means "black" and "bad"......... 651903[/snapback] I'm just putting it out in the open because it's being implied by everyone else. When someone says "gangster" I think of people like Al Capone and the Godfather movies. When I think of thug I think of what the media has concocted the modern athletic thug into which is the Allen Iverson/Ron Artest/Randy Moss/Terrell Owens. Granted, Ron Artest is probably the closest to a thug, but he also has serious mental issues which he cannot control.
January 10, 200521 yr If anything, Fritz is being racist against blacks here by assuming "thug" and "gangster" means "black" and "bad"......... 651903[/snapback] I'm just putting it out in the open because it's being implied by everyone else. When someone says "gangster" I think of people like Al Capone and the Godfather movies. When I think of thug I think of what the media has concocted the modern athletic thug into which is the Allen Iverson/Ron Artest/Randy Moss/Terrell Owens. Granted, Ron Artest is probably the closest to a thug, but he also has serious mental issues which he cannot control. 651910[/snapback] Owens is for sure not a thug, and MOss doesnt seem like one just to guys that LOVE attention.
January 10, 200521 yr If anything, Fritz is being racist against blacks here by assuming "thug" and "gangster" means "black" and "bad"......... 651903[/snapback] I'm just putting it out in the open because it's being implied by everyone else. When someone says "gangster" I think of people like Al Capone and the Godfather movies. When I think of thug I think of what the media has concocted the modern athletic thug into which is the Allen Iverson/Ron Artest/Randy Moss/Terrell Owens. Granted, Ron Artest is probably the closest to a thug, but he also has serious mental issues which he cannot control. 651910[/snapback] Owens is for sure not a thug, and MOss doesnt seem like one just to guys that LOVE attention. 651914[/snapback] The media brands them as thugs. Even white players that I would (and most others would consider) thugs aren't given that label. People like Bill Romanowski and John Lynch are just sorta left to do as they please and aren't called thugs. They just say they're dirty which is an entirely different implication.
January 10, 200521 yr If anything, Fritz is being racist against blacks here by assuming "thug" and "gangster" means "black" and "bad"......... 651903[/snapback] I'm just putting it out in the open because it's being implied by everyone else. When someone says "gangster" I think of people like Al Capone and the Godfather movies. When I think of thug I think of what the media has concocted the modern athletic thug into which is the Allen Iverson/Ron Artest/Randy Moss/Terrell Owens. Granted, Ron Artest is probably the closest to a thug, but he also has serious mental issues which he cannot control. 651910[/snapback] Owens is for sure not a thug, and MOss doesnt seem like one just to guys that LOVE attention. 651914[/snapback] The media brands them as thugs. Even white players that I would (and most others would consider) thugs aren't given that label. People like Bill Romanowski and John Lynch are just sorta left to do as they please and aren't called thugs. They just say they're dirty which is an entirely different implication. 651920[/snapback] You make a good point, but unfortunately your timing is terrible. Makes it seem like you're defending Moss
January 10, 200521 yr he's a damn good WR u don't want him to fake moon you and talk s***? stop him. 651937[/snapback] :notworthy :thumbup
January 10, 200521 yr Moss needs to grow up. He's not as bad as T.O. but he needs to grow up. He may be the best WR in the NFL (and in my opinion he is), but he needs to grow up.
January 10, 200521 yr he's a damn good WR u don't want him to fake moon you and talk s***? stop him. 651937[/snapback] That's just ignorant
January 10, 200521 yr he's a damn good WR u don't want him to fake moon you and talk s***? stop him. 651937[/snapback] That's just ignorant 651942[/snapback] how so? what he does in the endzone/ after the game is uncalled for, but if earns to be in that position, he can do what he wants now what he does off the field (running over police officers, walking off the field) is totally different
January 10, 200521 yr Heckeroo, say you had a son that played high school football, and at a big game, he catches a TD. Your son acts just like Randy Moss in the endzone. You going to say the same thing? If so, I'll drop it because you are too far gone on this issue to discuss anything with.
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