February 5, 200521 yr First off there is no rumor of the Twins trying to move(right now) and the Marlins to my knowledge haven't contacted the Twins...Now the Twins have offer Santana a 2/19mil contract for this CY winner. His agents wants 4/42mil. Now with Conine, and Encaracion off the books after next season a total of close to 7mil. So there will be some space b/c neither will be back at those salaries after next season. Would the Twins trade there best pitcher, if he doesn't sign by the begin of the season? maybe What could the Marlins offer? everybody anybody down on the farm expect Hermida Could the Marlins come close to that 4/42 mil? if the stadium gets done...maybe Bottomline is there going to need an Ace b/c Burnett will not be back after next season and Santana would perfect fit Opinions?
February 5, 200521 yr When we win 2005 champs I sure BOTH of them will sign with us :happydance :jump
February 5, 200521 yr Author First off guys its not way off, The Marlins sign Leiter for 8mil, they went after Hudson with intention of resigning him for big money. Zito rumors are there. Its NOT to much of a dream, if the Twins are willing. Of course the Twins must first feel they have no hope to resign him.
February 5, 200521 yr Author When we win 2005 champs I sure BOTH of them will sign with us :happydance :jump 678000[/snapback] Encarancion will NOT be back after next season and Conine might retire. Hermida hopefeully will be ready by the 2006 season of course
February 5, 200521 yr The Marlins are going to be rid of encanation,done with Ivan and Hamptons Contract,Conine might retire and burnett might leave along with lieters 8 mill that frees over 30 mill :hat :drool Marlins are gonig to make big moves in 2006 and maybe some trades on 2005
February 5, 200521 yr First off guys its not way off, The Marlins sign Leiter for 8mil, they went after Hudson with intention of resigning him for big money. Zito rumors are there. Its NOT to much of a dream, if the Twins are willing. Of course the Twins must first feel they have no hope to resign him. 678006[/snapback] Santana can single handidly put Minnesota in the playoffs. They should keep him anyways.
February 5, 200521 yr I like the idea, but only thing is Twins would need somebody to imediately replace Santana...Maybe an AJ/Santana trade with maybe Stokes attached along would be interesting deal. Of course this would have to assume that he definitely signs with us which is no guarentee. **edit Twins would probably want pitching instead of Stokes...I was just throwing his name out there
February 5, 200521 yr http://cbs.sportsline.com/general/story/8151786 Good Read guys. Not sure if it was posted before
February 5, 200521 yr The Marlins are going to be rid of encanation,done with Ivan and Hamptons Contract,Conine might retire and burnett might leave along with lieters 8 mill that frees over 30 mill :hat :drool Marlins are gonig to make big moves in 2006 and maybe some trades on 2005 678019[/snapback] You have to subtract the salary we are paying Delgado in 2006... it's like $12 or $13 million, right? So that leaves around $18 million. Assuming Hermida is ready to take over in 2006, then we have $18 million to replace Leiter and possibly AJ. I wouldn't be opposed to doing a trade and sign deal with the Twins and sign Johan to a 4/$42 million backloaded contract. He would really thrive in South Florida. If we pay him $8 million in 2006, we still have $10 million to resign AJ. Or, if not, we can just get two quality starters for $6 million and $4 million respectively and have a rotation of Santana, Beckett, D-Train, $6 million dollar pitcher, and $4million dollar pitcher. That's a heck of a rotation. Or, Santana, AJ, Beckett, D-Train, and cheap 5th starter. That would be hot.
February 5, 200521 yr Yeah, we really f--ed up in trading Santana. If we had kept him, we'd have the best rotation in the majors... AJ, Santana, Beckett, D-Train, and Leiter. (Although maybe we wouldn't have gone after Leiter in this case).
February 5, 200521 yr First off there is no rumor of the Twins trying to move(right now) and the Marlins to my knowledge haven't contacted the Twins...Now the Twins have offer Santana a 2/19mil contract for this CY winner. His agents wants 4/42mil. Now with Conine, and Encaracion off the books after next season a total of close to 7mil. So there will be some space b/c neither will be back at those salaries after next season. Would the Twins trade there best pitcher, if he doesn't sign by the begin of the season? maybe What could the Marlins offer? everybody anybody down on the farm expect Hermida Could the Marlins come close to that 4/42 mil? if the stadium gets done...maybe Bottomline is there going to need an Ace b/c Burnett will not be back after next season and Santana would perfect fit Opinions? 677992[/snapback] Leiter will also be gone next season, from the field that is, he'll still be in the booth :thumbup .
February 5, 200521 yr If that happens we could be the best team in MLB for 2 year or more. Even better than both all star team :hail :clapping
February 5, 200521 yr If we're going to go 4/$42, that would keep AJ. I don't understand why people are so quick to push him out the door...he's going to have a hard time turning down a 3/4 year deal in S.T. when he's yet to put together two consecutive stellar seasons...and it's not like the very real risk of re-injuring the elbow isn't there. If we make an offer in the $8 mil a season range for 3 years, I would have a hard time understanding the logic for refusing such a deal...I mean, his agent would have a real hard time turning it down too, and that counts for a whole lot.
February 5, 200521 yr If we're going to go 4/$42, that would keep AJ. I don't understand why people are so quick to push him out the door...he's going to have a hard time turning down a 3/4 year deal in S.T. when he's yet to put together two consecutive stellar seasons. 678090[/snapback] So why would we give him 4/42 if he's yet to put together two consecutive stellar seasons? You mean to tell me a pitcher who's career best was 12-9 and 3.30 ERA should be getting 4/42? You've got to be kidding me. LOL :thumbdown
February 5, 200521 yr If we're going to go 4/$42, that would keep AJ. I don't understand why people are so quick to push him out the door...he's going to have a hard time turning down a 3/4 year deal in S.T. when he's yet to put together two consecutive stellar seasons. 678090[/snapback] So why would we give him 4/42 if he's yet to put together two consecutive stellar seasons? You mean to tell me a pitcher who's career best was 12-9 and 3.30 ERA should be getting 4/42? You've got to be kidding me. LOL :thumbdown 678094[/snapback] You misunderstood, I was saying that if we've got this kind of money to throw at pitching, why not simply keep our own? Not that I wouldn't love to have Santana, but why give up the farm for a guy who isn't that much better than a healthy Burnett or Beckett...not to mention Scott Olsen reminds a lot of people of a Santana kind of player, and we'd undoubtedly have to part with him. I'm not saying give AJ all $42 million, but I don't understand the logic that he's (AJ) gone, yet we have that kind of money to spend. I don't buy into the whole personal vendetta against the F.O. theory, he's like any other ballplayer, a good offer will keep him...
February 5, 200521 yr First off guys its not way off, The Marlins sign Leiter for 8mil, they went after Hudson with intention of resigning him for big money. Zito rumors are there. Its NOT to much of a dream, if the Twins are willing. Of course the Twins must first feel they have no hope to resign him. 678006[/snapback] It isnt much of a dream, but I dont see the incentive at this time for the Twins to move Santana. And if they do, they will get some big time prospects in return...and I am afraid other teams need pitching more than we do and probably have better players to offer.
February 5, 200521 yr Resigning Burnett should be the first priority. I believe Pierre will also be a free agent. 678153[/snapback] WHAT?? :banghead IF he is Some teams might go 5,6 years on him He has to choose th Marlins
February 5, 200521 yr Resigning Burnett should be the first priority.? I believe Pierre will also be a free agent. 678153[/snapback] WHAT?? :banghead IF he is Some teams might go 5,6 years on him He has to choose th Marlins 678154[/snapback] let someone else overpay for him :thumbup
February 5, 200521 yr Resigning Burnett should be the first priority.? I believe Pierre will also be a free agent. 678153[/snapback] WHAT?? :banghead IF he is Some teams might go 5,6 years on him He has to choose th Marlins 678154[/snapback] let someone else overpay for him :thumbup 678157[/snapback] If he ends up in our divion but not with us :o
February 6, 200521 yr Resigning Burnett should be the first priority. I believe Pierre will also be a free agent. 678153[/snapback] We have him for two more years.
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