PhishPhan Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I have noticed before in movies like The Patriot or Amistad and other movies anout America 100+ years ago that they generally use the current day flag in them. Is there a reason these movies do this? I always wondered. I know these movies don't strive to be 100% accurate, but still makes me wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2k3Champs Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I've noticed that too....In The Last Samurai...they use the flag they are supposed to use. I noticed it in the beginning when he is drunk and speaking to the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgator Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 link First - I would not have ever used the Smithsonian as the historical consultants for the film - not with the problems they have had of late properly dealing with history (e.g. the Enola Gay fiasco for one). The latest issue of their magazine has an article about the film "The Patriot" that even mentions how they could not agree among themselves if the "Betsy Ross" style flag was ever used by Continental regiments. The film's producers decided to go with the "Betsy Ross " flags as they were something that modern American audiences could relate to. According to the definitive book on Rev War flags ( Edward Richardson's "Standards And Colors Of The American Revolution") such flags were not used (though variants of Stars and Stripes flags were though mostly by naval units). The proper Continental Army colors only showed up once in the film that I could see - those of a Rhode Island reenactor units that was in the movie. There were no Rhode Island Continental units in South Carolina (some Virginia, but mainly Maryland and Delaware line). Other than these, the rest of the American battle flags were patriotic colors - like the one with "Liberty" along the bottom of a blue flag that was probably inspired by the Ft. Moultrie flag. Others had the coiled rattlesnake and slogans about them. While these are period flags I don't know how many of such colors ever were used as battle flags for even militia units - and I highly doubt they saw service with Continental regiments (who by 1781 were supposed to have some flags that at least conformed to Von Steuben's 1779 regluations). The reenactor consultants seemed to have had a hard time with the film's producers as well as the Smithsonian consultants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 In the Patriot, while it is an error, it certainly evoked a sense of nationalism, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 Yeah, I remember the flag in "The Patriot" being one used closer to the Civil War, or at least some time after we became a sovereign nation. My guess is that Hollywood's top priority isn't to accurately show which particular American flag was used in combat during the early days of our nation. Accuracy would be nice, but details about that period's flag use were sketchy at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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