Posted March 27, 200520 yr I know some might think it doesn't matter, but we currently have the worst winning percentage in the ALL of the majors during Spring Training...
March 27, 200520 yr Spring Training Reg Season Team Year W L Pct W L Pct Montreal 1998 8 23 .258 65 97 .401 Toronto 1996 9 22 .290 74 88 .457 Cincinnati 2002 9 22 .290 78 84 .481 Florida 1996 9 22 .290 80 82 .494 Anaheim 1997 9 21 .300 84 78 .519 San Francisco 1998 9 21 .300 89 74 .546 San Francisco 2001 9 21 .300 90 72 .556 New York AL 2001 9 20 .310 95 65 .594 Milwaukee 1998 10 22 .313 74 88 .457 Montreal 1996 9 18 .333 88 74 .543 Chicago AL 2002 11 21 .344 81 81 .500 Milwaukee 1999 11 20 .355 74 87 .460 Milwaukee 1996 11 20 .355 80 82 .494 Florida 2002 10 18 .357 79 83 .488 Atlanta 1997 10 18 .357 101 61 .623 TOTALS 143 309 .316 1232 1196 .507 The bottom feeders tend to stay under .500, or miss the playoffs.
March 27, 200520 yr One has to admit that Jack played the kids a lot more than anyone expected him to. Usually I don't put a whole lot of faith on ST stats, but the win-loss % does concern me a little. I think that this week when the regulars play more will give a better outlook on this team.
March 27, 200520 yr Yanks are 11-12 this Spring, I'm sure they will be a below .500 team. :plain 722020[/snapback]Â They finish below .500 in ST every year, usually they finish dead last or pretty darn close. Do they play anyone at all? Last year I am pretty sure they finished last in ST.
March 27, 200520 yr They finish below .500 in ST every year, usually they finish dead last or pretty darn close. 722022[/snapback]Â Proves that ST means nothing.
March 27, 200520 yr Just looked it up Marlins were 14-16 in 2003 and they won it all. Of course in 1997 they went 26-5.
March 27, 200520 yr They finish below .500 in ST every year, usually they finish dead last or pretty darn close. 722022[/snapback]Â Proves that ST means nothing. 722025[/snapback]Â In the article you posted out of the bottom 15 records posted in ST only about 3 of the teams made the playoffs I think, one being the Yanks. The Braves and the Giants were the other teams.
March 27, 200520 yr They finish below .500 in ST every year, usually they finish dead last or pretty darn close. 722022[/snapback]Â Proves that ST means nothing. 722025[/snapback]Â In the article you posted out of the bottom 15 records posted in ST only about 3 of the teams made the playoffs I think, one being the Yanks. The Braves and the Giants were the other teams. 722029[/snapback]Â 8 out of 30 clubs make the playoffs... 3 out of 15 is about the same ratio (a bit lower). This means that the bottom feeders do, well, about average.
March 27, 200520 yr They finish below .500 in ST every year, usually they finish dead last or pretty darn close. 722022[/snapback]Â Proves that ST means nothing. 722025[/snapback]Â In the article you posted out of the bottom 15 records posted in ST only about 3 of the teams made the playoffs I think, one being the Yanks. The Braves and the Giants were the other teams. 722029[/snapback]Â 8 out of 30 clubs make the playoffs... 3 out of 15 is about the same ratio (a bit lower). This means that the bottom feeders do, well, about average. 722043[/snapback]Â I said out of the bottom 15 records not out of all the teams in the article. If you notice the other 15 are the 15 teams with the best spring training record.
March 27, 200520 yr They finish below .500 in ST every year, usually they finish dead last or pretty darn close. 722022[/snapback]Â Proves that ST means nothing. 722025[/snapback]Â In the article you posted out of the bottom 15 records posted in ST only about 3 of the teams made the playoffs I think, one being the Yanks. The Braves and the Giants were the other teams. 722029[/snapback]Â 8 out of 30 clubs make the playoffs... 3 out of 15 is about the same ratio (a bit lower). This means that the bottom feeders do, well, about average. 722043[/snapback]Â I said out of the bottom 15 records not out of all the teams in the article. If you notice the other 15 are the 15 teams with the best spring training record. 722048[/snapback]Â I know... I am saying that 8 out of the 30 MLB teams make the playoffs every year, and so 3 out of 15 is pretty close to the ratio that applies to all teams.
March 27, 200520 yr They finish below .500 in ST every year, usually they finish dead last or pretty darn close. 722022[/snapback] Proves that ST means nothing. 722025[/snapback] In the article you posted out of the bottom 15 records posted in ST only about 3 of the teams made the playoffs I think, one being the Yanks. The Braves and the Giants were the other teams. 722029[/snapback] 8 out of 30 clubs make the playoffs... 3 out of 15 is about the same ratio (a bit lower). This means that the bottom feeders do, well, about average. 722043[/snapback] I said out of the bottom 15 records not out of all the teams in the article. If you notice the other 15 are the 15 teams with the best spring training record. 722048[/snapback] I know... I am saying that 8 out of the 30 MLB teams make the playoffs every year, and so 3 out of 15 is pretty close to the ratio that applies to all teams. 722050[/snapback] But it spans from different years. You are trying to make up a number. I think they looked from 1996 ST to 2002 ST, that is 7 seasons in total. That means over that span 56 teams made the playoffs, 3 of them having on of the 15th worst ST records. 3:56 is about 1:20. Or about 5%. So if you finish with less than 11 wins in ST, historically, you make the playoffs 1 out of 20 times. Then again the 2 of the 3 teams were the Yanks and Braves. Yanks always lay stinkers in spring and the Braves are the Braves.
March 27, 200520 yr Of the 24 games we have played, we've seen Pierre for 5 games, Delgado for 11, Lo Duca for 12, Gonzalez for 14, and Lowell and Castillo for 15. Even assuming one could even buy into the silly argument that players play EXACTLY the same in spring as they do in the regular season, Im pretty sure we will see our entire offense around for more than 63% of the season AT BEST. Â Face it guys. There is no link.
March 27, 200520 yr They finish below .500 in ST every year, usually they finish dead last or pretty darn close. 722022[/snapback] Proves that ST means nothing. 722025[/snapback] In the article you posted out of the bottom 15 records posted in ST only about 3 of the teams made the playoffs I think, one being the Yanks. The Braves and the Giants were the other teams. 722029[/snapback] 8 out of 30 clubs make the playoffs... 3 out of 15 is about the same ratio (a bit lower). This means that the bottom feeders do, well, about average. 722043[/snapback] I said out of the bottom 15 records not out of all the teams in the article. If you notice the other 15 are the 15 teams with the best spring training record. 722048[/snapback] I know... I am saying that 8 out of the 30 MLB teams make the playoffs every year, and so 3 out of 15 is pretty close to the ratio that applies to all teams. 722050[/snapback] But it spans from different years. You are trying to make up a number. I think they looked from 1996 ST to 2002 ST, that is 7 seasons in total. That means over that span 56 teams made the playoffs, 3 of them having on of the 15th worst ST records. 3:56 is about 1:20. Or about 5%. So if you finish with less than 11 wins in ST, historically, you make the playoffs 1 out of 20 times. Then again the 2 of the 3 teams were the Yanks and Braves. Yanks always lay stinkers in spring and the Braves are the Braves. 722054[/snapback]  sorry, i didn't realize you meant 3 out of the WHOLE 15 worse ST records from 96 to 2002. I agree with your argument, then. However, it's farfetched to say "historically" because this analysis only covers 7 ST's and subsequent regular seasons.
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