The draft is over, and the Marlins got a lot of good young arms. However, I was looking at the previous 4 years drafts, and couldnt see any player yet to have broken through into the majors and made an impact. Does this show a problem with the Marlins minor league system, poor scouting, drafting too many high school players or just bad luck? Anyone have any thoughts?

 

PS My exams are over!!!!!!

The draft is over, and the Marlins got a lot of good young arms. However, I was looking at the previous 4 years drafts, and couldnt see any player yet to have broken through into the majors and made an impact. Does this show a problem with the Marlins minor league system, poor scouting, drafting too many high school players or just bad luck? Anyone have any thoughts?

 

PS My exams are over!!!!!!

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so the previous 4 drafts would be 2004, 2003, 2002, and 2001 right?

 

well from the 2001 draft, Chris Resop, Lincoln Holdzkom(hurt), Adam Bostick and Kevin Cave stand out... only Kevin Cave is older than 25 and its not like every player is a DTrain or Miguel Cabrera... it takes 3-4-5 years to go through a system

 

2002:

Hermida is a stud, as is Scott Olsen and Josh Johnson. Robert Andino is having a breakout year, and Eric Reed is a solid CF prospect(kind of like JP but is struggling in AA).. and Ross Wolf has been a nice surprise in the 18th round

 

no point talking about 2003 and 2004 because guys dont normally fire through the farm system like torpedos

Was also talking about the 2000 draft, which in fairness was good, but still none of the players have made an impact with the Marlins at the major league level. Willingham, Stokes arent there yet and Gonzalez was traded. My point was more that with such a national media reputation for rushing players to the majors, the Marlins clearly havent, and showed in the winter that possibly the focus of the marlins has shifted to a more veteran outlook as opposed to the "young ballclub" it once was, where young players got a prolonged chance to prove themselves.

Was also talking about the 2000 draft, which in fairness was good, but still none of the players have made an impact with the Marlins at the major league level. Willingham, Stokes arent there yet and Gonzalez was traded. My point was more that with such a national media reputation for rushing players to the majors, the Marlins clearly havent, and showed in the winter that possibly the focus of the marlins has shifted to a more veteran outlook as opposed to the "young ballclub" it once was, where young players got a prolonged chance to prove themselves.

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while Gonzalez hasnt had an impact for us, he certainly helped us big time in 2003

2000 Draft was good, because Gonzalez helped us land Urbina. Also, if they ever give Willingham a shot it'll make that draft even better.

 

2001 Draft was pretty much a disaster, although we didn't have a first round pick. I really like Chris Resop, but I can't say that drafting him was good scouting, because they drafted him as a hitter. :plain

 

2002 Draft I think will be very good for us. I think there will be 4 players from that draft that will have a big impact on our team in the future if they are not traded. Hermida, Olsen, Johnson, and Andino.

 

2003 and 2004 it's too early to tell, although I'm not too optimistic about 2003 unless Allison can turn it around and become the dominant pitcher scouts thought he could be.

Was also talking about the 2000 draft, which in fairness was good, but still none of the players have made an impact with the Marlins at the major league level. Willingham, Stokes arent there yet and Gonzalez was traded. My point was more that with such a national media reputation for rushing players to the majors, the Marlins clearly havent, and showed in the winter that possibly the focus of the marlins has shifted to a more veteran outlook as opposed to the "young ballclub" it once was, where young players got a prolonged chance to prove themselves.

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When you can field veterens, why rush up young kids? Dont you remember 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002, are team was full of young stars with potential, didnt do much for our record. In 2003 those kids blew up in the lime light. Why have Stokes, when you have Delgado, etc?

IF you look at the 2000 draft one would have to include players traded from that draft besides Gonzalez. Will Smith was drafted that year also and included in the Gonzalez trade and Rob Henkel who was highly rated help net Mark Redman.

The 01 draft still has a few sleepers such as Holdkkom and Nic Ungs who may one day help the big club. The first draft in the Loria era in 2002 netted the Marlins several prospects of which four have already been discussed (Hermida, Andino, Johnson and Olsen) but it also brought Trevor Hutchinson and Eric Reed. A player in that draft that has been traded was Travis Chick to SD and for some reason became highly rated. The 02 could be the best draft in Marlins history. While it is way too early to tell about 03 and 04 there are several players besides Allison that I feel really good about for the future of the team including Vargas, Molldrem Tankersley, Restko, Mitchell and Miller. That's not even mentioning Kensing either. It appears that the Loria scouting team has gone and found some players that in a few years could bear watching.

lol Jai Miller

Was also talking about the 2000 draft, which in fairness was good, but still none of the players have made an impact with the Marlins at the major league level.? Willingham, Stokes arent there yet and Gonzalez was traded.? My point was more that with such a national media reputation for rushing players to the majors, the Marlins clearly havent, and showed in the winter that possibly the focus of the marlins has shifted to a more veteran outlook as opposed to the "young ballclub" it once was, where young players got a prolonged chance to prove themselves.

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When you can field veterens, why rush up young kids? Dont you remember 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002, are team was full of young stars with potential, didnt do much for our record. In 2003 those kids blew up in the lime light. Why have Stokes, when you have Delgado, etc?

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How are the vets doing in 2004 or 2005?

Not sure if this was posted anywhere else... from the Philadelphia Inquirer

 

Draft stuff

 

The Marlins capitalized on all those early picks and reeled in some excellent prospects (a key word, because there are no slam dunks in the draft). The Marlins took five pitchers (four high schoolers) in the first 44 picks.

 

"They had one of the best drafts I've seen in all my years of scouting," Phils scouting boss Marti Wolever said. "What they did on the pitching side was amazing. They took some great arms with some high ceilings. Every time we looked at the board, we were saying, 'My God, they got another one.' "