July 19, 200520 yr Well this is new. If it's true, thanks for taking on The Terrible Steves for us. Hopefully AJ signs an extension with us afterall: washingtonpost.com Bedard, Sosa Lift O's Over Twins Trade for Burnett Might Come Today: Orioles 3, Twins 2 By Jorge Arangure Jr. Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, July 19, 2005; E01 MINNEAPOLIS, July 18 -- They welcomed back Erik Bedard, who had been on the disabled list since May 26, and Sammy Sosa, whose bat had been on hiatus for a month, and readied themselves for an impending roster crush that figures to happen on Tuesday. The Baltimore Orioles, 3-2 winners over the Minnesota Twins, were a team on the eve of a drastic makeover with the acquisition of Florida Marlins pitcher A.J. Burnett and infielder Mike Lowell likely to be finalized Tuesday, according to several baseball sources. The Orioles will send outfielder Admin Bigbie, pitcher Hayden Penn and relievers Jorge Julio, Steve Reed and Steve Kline to the Marlins. Baltimore also will receive minor league outfielder Eric Reed. The Boston Red Sox, one of the teams actively pursuing Burnett, believed they were no longer in the running for the pitcher. "We have not heard anything official, but we do not get the sense that the Marlins are engaging us with much urgency," a Red Sox official said. "In other words, they seem more inclined to go in another direction." If, as expected, the Orioles face a drastic roster haul, the current version of the team did quite well on its final night. Bedard pitched six scoreless innings, striking out seven, after missing almost two months with a sprained knee, and Sosa hit his first home run since June 18, a 420-foot two-run blast in the seventh inning. Miguel Tejada won the game with a home run in the 11th inning. As of late Monday night, according to several sources close to the Orioles, Baltimore had all but decided not to sign Burnett to a contract extension prior to making the deal. The Orioles hoped Burnett, a free agent after this season whose wife is from the Baltimore area, would sign a new contract after the trade was made. "My preference would be to sign everyone to one-year contracts," Orioles Executive Vice President Jim Beattie said in general terms and not specifically about the impending trade. "But you have to do what you have to do to get players signed. Sometimes it's worth the risk." Previously, agent Darek Braunecker, who represents Burnett, had said the pitcher would not negotiate during the season, but he softened his stance on Monday. "If they were to present something to us that we could resolve quickly, I wouldn't say we wouldn't do that," Braunecker said. Part of the reason the Orioles have decided to acquire Burnett without a new contract is so they could rid themselves of the salaries of Kline and Reed in the deal. With an extension for Burnett signed prior to a trade it's unlikely Florida would have accepted either relief pitcher, whom the Orioles are trading as a salary dump. Kline was signed to a two-year, $5.6 million deal in the offseason. Reed is making $900,000 on a one-year deal. Bigbie, Kline and Julio had all but conceded they would be traded. Bigbie and Julio joked about needing to buy sunscreen to protect themselves from the Florida sun. Kline began to say goodbye to reporters. Bigbie, who conspicuously was not in the lineup Monday, admitted, while it pained him to leave, perhaps the trade would mean a better opportunity for him with the Marlins. The team had been so uncertain about the status of the roster that it did not announce which player would be taken off the team in order to activate Bedard from the disabled list until minutes prior to the game. Long reliever James Baldwin was designated for assignment, further fueling the thought that a deal for Burnett was near. Acquiring Burnett means the Orioles will have to demote a starter, meaning there would be no need for Baldwin as a long reliever. The team had asked Kline to accept a demotion to Class AA Bowie in order to work on his mechanics. The reliever, 2-3 with a 5.61 ERA, declined to go to Bowie, so the Orioles made the move with Baldwin. At this point, the most likely candidate to fill Baldwin's spot in the bullpen is Sidney Ponson, who has a 6.04 ERA and is 2-7 in his past 12 games. He would be an $8.5 million long reliever. "I'm acknowledging that there are talks going on that might impact the roster," Beattie said. "That's all. That's fair. That's why we waited [to make the Baldwin move], otherwise we would have tried to do something earlier. But with respect to the information coming in and the timing of it, we tried not to make a move that would" hurt the roster. One move that won't be made is shifting Melvin Mora from third base to accommodate Lowell, who will be owed $21.25 million through 2007. "I wouldn't move Melvin out of third base unless Brooks Robinson came back," Beattie said.
July 19, 200520 yr We're sending BOTH Steves now? Man! Didn't even have to waste any lube..... :whistle
July 19, 200520 yr 3 bullpen arms?? WTF? T. Jones G. Mota J. Mecir J. Julio S. Kline (L) S. Reed A. Alfonseca J. Riedling, N. Bump, T. Spooneybarger
July 19, 200520 yr 3 bullpen arms?? WTF? 863776[/snapback] 2...Reed and Kline combined equal about 1...AWFUL
July 19, 200520 yr I read an article today saying how so many teams are after bullpen help. Maybe 1-2 of those is to trade away???
July 19, 200520 yr Author I read an article today saying how so many teams are after bullpen help. Maybe 1-2 of those is to trade away??? 863807[/snapback] Hell, you can do whatever you want with them. Make them race around the warning track in the middle of the 6th inning for all I care, just take them!!! :o
July 19, 200520 yr I read an article today saying how so many teams are after bullpen help. Maybe 1-2 of those is to trade away??? 863807[/snapback] Hell, you can do whatever you want with them. Make them race around the warning track in the middle of the 6th inning for all I care, just take them!!! :o 863833[/snapback] They could dress up like bratwursts sausages like they do in Pittsburgh.
July 19, 200520 yr Author I read an article today saying how so many teams are after bullpen help. Maybe 1-2 of those is to trade away??? 863807[/snapback] Hell, you can do whatever you want with them. Make them race around the warning track in the middle of the 6th inning for all I care, just take them!!! :o 863833[/snapback] They could dress up like bratwursts sausages like they do in Pittsburgh. 863853[/snapback] Hmmm, and there could be a contest to whack them with a bat like Randall Simon a couple years ago. We might be getting somewhere here! (oh and it's Milwaukee that does the sausage race, Pittsburgh has its own offshoot called The Perogie race, though).
July 19, 200520 yr I read an article today saying how so many teams are after bullpen help. Maybe 1-2 of those is to trade away??? 863807[/snapback] Hell, you can do whatever you want with them. Make them race around the warning track in the middle of the 6th inning for all I care, just take them!!! :o 863833[/snapback] They could dress up like bratwursts sausages like they do in Pittsburgh. 863853[/snapback] Hmmm, and there could be a contest to whack them with a bat like Randall Simon a couple years ago. We might be getting somewhere here! (oh and it's Milwaukee that does the sausage race, Pittsburgh has its own offshoot called The Perogie race, though). 863868[/snapback] Oh yeah, I think it was Randall Simon being on the Pirates that made me think that. But if there is any hitting with bats than that should be there farewell tour in Camden yards.
July 19, 200520 yr Author I read an article today saying how so many teams are after bullpen help. Maybe 1-2 of those is to trade away??? 863807[/snapback] Hell, you can do whatever you want with them. Make them race around the warning track in the middle of the 6th inning for all I care, just take them!!! :o 863833[/snapback] They could dress up like bratwursts sausages like they do in Pittsburgh. 863853[/snapback] Hmmm, and there could be a contest to whack them with a bat like Randall Simon a couple years ago. We might be getting somewhere here! (oh and it's Milwaukee that does the sausage race, Pittsburgh has its own offshoot called The Perogie race, though). 863868[/snapback] Oh yeah, I think it was Randall Simon being on the Pirates that made me think that. But if there is any hitting with bats than that should be there farewell tour in Camden yards. 863914[/snapback] We'd be more than happy to supply the first 25,000 fans with bats and parade them around the field like Cal Ripken making his victory lap, allowing the fans to "personally say goodbye". Ok, now we're just being mean.
July 19, 200520 yr Admin Bigbie, OF (L), $380k .257 BA, .319 OBP, .380 SLG 4 HR, 19 RBI (187ab in 57g) Jorge Julio, RHP, $2.5m 4.14 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, .241 BAA Hayden Penn, RHP, $300k 6.75 ERA, 1.74 WHIP, .289 BAA (7 GS) Steve Kline, LHP, $2.5m 5.61 ERA, 1.66 WHIP, .262 BAA (vs Left: .349 BAA, vs Right: .179 BAA) Steve Reed, RHP, $900k 6.61 ERA, 1.59 WHIP, .308 BAA for AJ Burnett, RHP, $3.65m 3.64 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, .240 BAA Mike Lowell, 3B ?, $7.5m .228 BA, .281 OBP, .350 SLG 4 HR, 36 RBI (303 ab in 83 g) my stomach hurts...
July 19, 200520 yr Author It's a fair deal even more so since we're throwing in 2 batting practice pitchers too! What more do you want, grounds crew members?
July 19, 200520 yr Admin Bigbie, OF (L), $380k .257 BA, .319 OBP, .380 SLG 4 HR, 19 RBI (187ab in 57g) Jorge Julio, RHP, $2.5m 4.14 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, .241 BAA Hayden Penn, RHP, $300k 6.75 ERA, 1.74 WHIP, .289 BAA (7 GS) Steve Kline, LHP, $2.5m 5.61 ERA, 1.66 WHIP, .262 BAA (vs Left: .349 BAA, vs Right: .179 BAA) Steve Reed, RHP, $900k 6.61 ERA, 1.59 WHIP, .308 BAA for AJ Burnett, RHP, $3.65m 3.64 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, .240 BAA Mike Lowell, 3B ?, $7.5m .228 BA, .281 OBP, .350 SLG 4 HR, 36 RBI (303 ab in 83 g) my stomach hurts... 863958[/snapback] I didn't want to say this..... you guys do save almost $5mill, to be spent next year or NOW at the deadline. It... It... It seems Bienfest (sorry... spelling) is writing off 2005. Giving up and looking toward next year....
July 19, 200520 yr The Washington Post? That is a credible baseball paper. 864192[/snapback] It is actually a lot more credible than the Baltimore Sun.
July 19, 200520 yr It is actually a lot more credible than the Baltimore Sun. 864210[/snapback] Which isn't saying much.
July 19, 200520 yr The Washington Post? That is a credible baseball paper. 864192[/snapback] It is actually a lot more credible than the Baltimore Sun. 864210[/snapback] I dunno after the whole Delgado thing, and having to listen to Gammons for years, I'd rather just ignore any reports coming out of the Baltimore area and wait to see what a Miami paper, or the Marlins say.
July 19, 200520 yr When it comes to the Marlins under Loria/Beinfest...the Herald always has the scoop.
July 19, 200520 yr Baltimore Sun/ Sporting News/Sun-Sentinel all report more or less the same thing, the three way deal with the Pirates. Washington Post is the only one that's different, saying it's an O's/Marlins deal only, and also includes S. Reed and Kline.
July 19, 200520 yr We better be shipping Penn and some other people to Cinci for Dunn or I'm going to be pissed. I'd rather take the chance Lowell returns to form and take a run at the playoffs this year than get the crap they're sending us. We have enough solid pitching prospects. We don't need Penn.
July 19, 200520 yr Kline and Reed, that would be dumping a lot of junk on us. Don't see what this trade offers, a lefty bat, (cough Hermida at Carolina), ANOTHER bullpen arm in Julio, a pitching prospect (not that we dont have a farm system packed with them even if he is a good one), and some junk for them to dump some salary. WHY?? I know we are dumping Mikey's salary, but come on!
July 19, 200520 yr This deal sucks, it makes no Sense whats so ever. I like the three way deal that was in the Herald/post/ sun sentinel better. This deal is crap. That one is also on Yahoo btw. grrr just grr We are dumping salary to make moves not to aquire more.. grrr.
July 19, 200520 yr If its the 3 way then I can see us going after a huge bat for a few reasons. 1. We got our replacement pitcher already in Redman. 2. We got a huge piece to throw out in Penn a couple more pieces as well. 3. We have a ton of space cleared for salary. 4. We got a bunch of semi decent relievers that we can sell off to teams dying for bullpen help. I don't know if we are really writing this season off or not, we'll know in August. But I have a feeling this will be the busiest July in Marlins history.
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