Posted September 5, 200519 yr If it wasn't for our over populating, pollution creating, deforestation, unnatural global warming, power hungry, society consumering selves... Project Hope, a project of the international animal protection organization, In Defense of Animals (IDA), is calling on state officials to allow animal protection groups permission to enter disaster stricken areas of Mississippi. The group, which has set up a rescue and recovery effort at the County Fairgrounds in Jackson along with Mississippi Emergency Response for Animals (MEPA) and the Disaster Animal Response Team (DART) to help animals affected by Hurricane Katrina, is prepared to venture into areas affected by the storm and deliver medical assistance and supplies, yet is being halted by the Emergency Operations Center (EOC). "We understand we could be facing dangerous situations and that precautions need to be taken. We appreciate measures being taken to ensure our safety," says Project Hope Director, Doll Stanley. "But we are sitting here in a parking lot with a truckload of supplies waiting for permission to utilize our resources while animals are dying for lack of food and water." The Project Hope team secured a generous donation of supplies for the rescue operation from PETsMART charities including food, carriers and crates to house animals at the rescue center, as well as to transport animals to shelters and foster homes. While the group awaits permission to use the highway to help animals in need, news media outlets are reporting distraught evacuees being forced to leave their beloved animal companions behind and some even having animals euthanized for fear of their welfare once turned over to authorities.
September 5, 200519 yr Author funny that people are forced to either leave their animals behind or stay in ruins with them
September 5, 200519 yr Screw animals. There's still people that need help and some jerks have to go in with the agenda to save animals. People who need help>Animals who need help
September 5, 200519 yr Although I love my pets and would make every effort to ensure their safety, I wouldn't pick them over the lives of my family. It shouldn't be a choice. The people who stayed because of their pets get what they deserve. Neither does it make it right to ignore the animals left behind. Where are the trucks with the food and water for them?
September 5, 200519 yr Author not saying that animals are more important than humans *sigh* but its sad to see how many animals are being left abandoned to simply die
September 5, 200519 yr not saying that animals are more important than humans *sigh* but its sad to see how many animals are being left abandoned to simply die 931516[/snapback] I just don't personally care about animals. At all. If they can't survive, then tough. If they die because they were cooped up in zoo's, yeah that sucks; but it's part of the deal and they had a better life in zoos than in the wild in most cases. Other animals, it's just a part of survival. Can't swim? Tough luck. I don't know why people would waste money on animals when there are people suffering.
September 5, 200519 yr not saying that animals are more important than humans *sigh* but its sad to see how many animals are being left abandoned to simply die 931516[/snapback] I just don't personally care about animals. At all. If they can't survive, then tough. If they die because they were cooped up in zoo's, yeah that sucks; but it's part of the deal and they had a better life in zoos than in the wild in most cases. Other animals, it's just a part of survival. Can't swim? Tough luck. I don't know why people would waste money on animals when there are people suffering. 931548[/snapback] Buckeye strikes again!
September 5, 200519 yr not saying that animals are more important than humans *sigh* but its sad to see how many animals are being left abandoned to simply die 931516[/snapback] I just don't personally care about animals. At all. If they can't survive, then tough. If they die because they were cooped up in zoo's, yeah that sucks; but it's part of the deal and they had a better life in zoos than in the wild in most cases. Other animals, it's just a part of survival. Can't swim? Tough luck. I don't know why people would waste money on animals when there are people suffering. 931548[/snapback] is not about what you care. don't be-little other people's views.
September 6, 200519 yr Author some people simply take earth for granted ... and honestly dont deserve to inhabit earth
September 6, 200519 yr some people simply take earth for granted ... and honestly dont deserve to inhabit earth 931731[/snapback] Maybe we should kill 'em. *shrugs* I just don't see the point of giving money away for animal's when there are humans suffering. Sorry for putting the human race above our animal counterparts. Guess I don't deserve to live because of it... :lol
September 6, 200519 yr Author no ... but your ignorant ass comments sure deserve the treatment you give them
September 6, 200519 yr no ... but your ignorant ass comments sure deserve the treatment you give them 932025[/snapback] Color me offended. But, you didn't explain yourself. First off, my own PERSONAL beliefs are that animals are not human. They are amoral. Not capable of morality or falling under the sphere of morals. Also, they cannot express pain in the way we can. That's why they are sub-human. Humans, however ARE moral creatures. We can express pain, remember it and "feel it" upon reflection. We can talk to other humans and empathize with their pain or vice versa make them empathize with ours. Humanity, in my opinion, is the pinnacle of life on this earth. I'm all for saving the environment, I'm all for saving some animals. But when humanity is involved, get them the hell out of there first. Also, don't be so damn insulting. I laid out my 2 cents, where's yours? EDIT: Also, I'm not sure your sentence makes sense. "your ignorant ass comments sure deserve the treatment you give them" You mean I give myself bad treatment for my own "ignorant" comments or what, pally?
September 6, 200519 yr ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- As Valerie Bennett was evacuated from a New Orleans hospital, rescuers told her there was no room in the boat for her dogs. She pleaded. "I offered him my wedding ring and my mom's wedding ring," the 34-year-old nurse recalled Saturday. They wouldn't budge. She and her husband could bring only one item, and they already had a plastic tub containing the medicines her husband, a liver transplant recipient, needed to survive. Such emotional scenes were repeated perhaps thousands of times along the Gulf Coast last week as pet owners were forced to abandon their animals in the midst of evacuation. In one example reported last week by The Associated Press, a police officer took a dog from one little boy waiting to get on a bus in New Orleans. "Snowball! Snowball!" the boy cried until he vomited. The policeman told a reporter he didn't know what would happen to the dog. At the hospital, a doctor euthanized some animals at the request of their owners, who feared they would be abandoned and starve to death. He set up a small gas chamber out of a plastic-wrapped dog kennel. "The bigger dogs were fighting it. Fighting the gas. It took them longer. When I saw that, I said, 'I can't do it,' " said Bennett's husband, Lorne. Valerie Bennett left her dogs with the anesthesiologist, who promised to care for about 30 staff members' pets on the roof of the hospital, Lindy Boggs Medical Center. "He said he'd stay there as long as he possibly could," Valerie Bennett recalled, speaking from her husband's bedside at Atlanta's Emory University Hospital. On Saturday afternoon, she said she saw a posting on a Web site called petfinder.com that said the anesthesiologist was still caring for the animals. Louisiana State Treasurer John Kennedy, who was helping with relief efforts Saturday, said some evacuees refused to leave without their pets. "One woman told me 'I've lost my house, my job, my car and I am not turning my dog loose to starve,' " Kennedy said. Kennedy said he persuaded refugees to get on the bus by telling them he would have the animals taken to an exhibition center. The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals picked up two cats and 15 dogs, including one Kennedy found tied up beneath the overpass next to an unopened can of dog food with a sign that read, "Please take care of my dog, his name is Chucky." The fate of pets is a huge but underappreciated cause of anguish for storm survivors, said Richard Garfield, professor of international clinical nursing at New York's Columbia University. "People in shelters are worried about 'Did Fluffy get out?' " he said. "It's very distressing for people, wondering if their pets are isolated or starving." The Bennetts had four animals, including two beloved dogs. They moved to Slidell, Louisiana, in July when Valerie took a job at an organ transplant institute connected to Lindy Boggs. Lorne, a former paramedic, is disabled since undergoing a liver transplant in 2001. On Saturday, as Hurricane Katrina approached, both went to the hospital to help and took all four animals with them. They fed their guinea pig and left it in its cage in a patient room. They couldn't refill its empty water bottle because the hospital's plumbing failed Sunday, they said. They poured food on the floor for the cat, but again no water. "I just hope that they forgive me," Valerie Bennett cried I saw this on CNN a few days ago. Whatever you think about animals, it's pretty f'ing sad for the people who have to abandon their pets, who are often almost like family members. There's another article on CNN about people trying to find that kid's dog, Snowball.
September 6, 200519 yr Author Also, don't be so damn insulting. I laid out my 2 cents, where's yours? 932026[/snapback] read freshfish comment ... u wanna be a homer, ill be one too. its that simple if u have nothing to add to the conversation than dont do it. there are people here that value their life, just like they are people in N.O. that value their life. im not saying they are more important than humans ... im not saying we should stall the operation to say every little kittie in the freaking place and im not saying that we should donate money to the animal rescue. All I was pointing out was that a lot of animals are being left behind and that autorities are not doing a goddamn thing about it (just another reason why this whole operation has been a total mess) YES save the people before ANYTHING ... but what you cant walk and chew gum at the same time? there are a lot more things involved in this catastrophe than just humans some of these animals are the only family some people know and have
September 6, 200519 yr Also, don't be so damn insulting.? I laid out my 2 cents, where's yours? 932026[/snapback] read freshfish comment ... u wanna be a homer, ill be one too. its that simple if u have nothing to add to the conversation than dont do it. there are people here that value their life, just like they are people in N.O. that value their life. im not saying they are more important than humans ... im not saying we should stall the operation to say every little kittie in the freaking place and im not saying that we should donate money to the animal rescue. All I was pointing out was that a lot of animals are being left behind and that autorities are not doing a goddamn thing about it (just another reason why this whole operation has been a total mess) YES save the people before ANYTHING ... but what you cant walk and chew gum at the same time? there are a lot more things involved in this catastrophe than just humans some of these animals are the only family some people know and have 932080[/snapback] All I did was state my own goddamn opinion. And then then you decided to come in and insult me for no good reason. I never "walked all over" your opinions or freshfish or anyone elses. I said, "Hey, this is what I believe..." Never had to resort to namecalling. At no point did I claim to be God or that I was right. You can decide that for yourself and act like an adult and refut it with knowledge or you can resort to the tactic you did.
September 6, 200519 yr Also, don't be so damn insulting. I laid out my 2 cents, where's yours? 932026[/snapback] read freshfish comment ... u wanna be a homer, ill be one too. its that simple if u have nothing to add to the conversation than dont do it. there are people here that value their life, just like they are people in N.O. that value their life. im not saying they are more important than humans ... im not saying we should stall the operation to say every little kittie in the freaking place and im not saying that we should donate money to the animal rescue. All I was pointing out was that a lot of animals are being left behind and that autorities are not doing a goddamn thing about it (just another reason why this whole operation has been a total mess) YES save the people before ANYTHING ... but what you cant walk and chew gum at the same time? there are a lot more things involved in this catastrophe than just humans some of these animals are the only family some people know and have 932080[/snapback] All I did was state my own goddamn opinion. And then then you decided to come in and insult me for no good reason. I never "walked all over" your opinions or freshfish or anyone elses. I said, "Hey, this is what I believe..." Never had to resort to namecalling. At no point did I claim to be God or that I was right. You can decide that for yourself and act like an adult and refut it with knowledge or you can resort to the tactic you did. 932091[/snapback] You were not just innocently expressing your opinion like you want to think you are. You may or may not realize it, but you have a way of coming off as a complete a**hole with not a care in the world in regards to what other people think and anyone who disagrees with you is seemingly below you. Everything with you is black and white and your opinions you have shared on this forum are so one-sided and absurd that anyone reading them has to do a double take. Do you not realize that these animals are the only thing keeping most of these people who just lost EVERYTHING they own sane? You may just be expressing your opinions, but your opinions are IGNORANT. Most people who have pets love them like they're their own children and would rather lose everything they own and have to leave behind Benji, but insensitive heartless bastards like you just can't comprehend this.
September 6, 200519 yr Also, don't be so damn insulting.? I laid out my 2 cents, where's yours? 932026[/snapback] read freshfish comment ... u wanna be a homer, ill be one too. its that simple if u have nothing to add to the conversation than dont do it. there are people here that value their life, just like they are people in N.O. that value their life. im not saying they are more important than humans ... im not saying we should stall the operation to say every little kittie in the freaking place and im not saying that we should donate money to the animal rescue. All I was pointing out was that a lot of animals are being left behind and that autorities are not doing a goddamn thing about it (just another reason why this whole operation has been a total mess) YES save the people before ANYTHING ... but what you cant walk and chew gum at the same time? there are a lot more things involved in this catastrophe than just humans some of these animals are the only family some people know and have 932080[/snapback] All I did was state my own goddamn opinion. And then then you decided to come in and insult me for no good reason. I never "walked all over" your opinions or freshfish or anyone elses. I said, "Hey, this is what I believe..." Never had to resort to namecalling. At no point did I claim to be God or that I was right. You can decide that for yourself and act like an adult and refut it with knowledge or you can resort to the tactic you did. 932091[/snapback] You were not just innocently expressing your opinion like you want to think you are. You may or may not realize it, but you have a way of coming off as a complete a**hole with not a care in the world in regards to what other people think and anyone who disagrees with you is seemingly below you. Everything with you is black and white and your opinions you have shared on this forum are so one-sided and absurd that anyone reading them has to do a double take. Do you not realize that these animals are the only thing keeping most of these people who just lost EVERYTHING they own sane? You may just be expressing your opinions, but your opinions are IGNORANT. Most people who have pets love them like they're their own children and would rather lose everything they own and have to leave behind Benji, but insensitive heartless bastards like you just can't comprehend this. 932153[/snapback] :santa If you're hanging on by a thread and your animal is keeping you alive, I have a peice of advice for you: Grow up.
September 6, 200519 yr Also, don't be so damn insulting. I laid out my 2 cents, where's yours? 932026[/snapback] read freshfish comment ... u wanna be a homer, ill be one too. its that simple if u have nothing to add to the conversation than dont do it. there are people here that value their life, just like they are people in N.O. that value their life. im not saying they are more important than humans ... im not saying we should stall the operation to say every little kittie in the freaking place and im not saying that we should donate money to the animal rescue. All I was pointing out was that a lot of animals are being left behind and that autorities are not doing a goddamn thing about it (just another reason why this whole operation has been a total mess) YES save the people before ANYTHING ... but what you cant walk and chew gum at the same time? there are a lot more things involved in this catastrophe than just humans some of these animals are the only family some people know and have 932080[/snapback] All I did was state my own goddamn opinion. And then then you decided to come in and insult me for no good reason. I never "walked all over" your opinions or freshfish or anyone elses. I said, "Hey, this is what I believe..." Never had to resort to namecalling. At no point did I claim to be God or that I was right. You can decide that for yourself and act like an adult and refut it with knowledge or you can resort to the tactic you did. 932091[/snapback] You were not just innocently expressing your opinion like you want to think you are. You may or may not realize it, but you have a way of coming off as a complete a**hole with not a care in the world in regards to what other people think and anyone who disagrees with you is seemingly below you. Everything with you is black and white and your opinions you have shared on this forum are so one-sided and absurd that anyone reading them has to do a double take. Do you not realize that these animals are the only thing keeping most of these people who just lost EVERYTHING they own sane? You may just be expressing your opinions, but your opinions are IGNORANT. Most people who have pets love them like they're their own children and would rather lose everything they own and have to leave behind Benji, but insensitive heartless bastards like you just can't comprehend this. 932153[/snapback] :santa If you're hanging on by a thread and your animal is keeping you alive, I have a peice of advice for you: Grow up. 932441[/snapback] You're even dumber than I thought. :santa
September 7, 200519 yr Do you just follow Buckeye around to blast his opinion with comments like "Buckeye strikes again"? The dude just stated an opinion no need to name call.
September 7, 200519 yr Author no problem with stating an opinion ... its the other things that he says after the "opinion" that might tickle people off and their beliefs
September 7, 200519 yr no problem with stating an opinion ... its the other things that he says after the "opinion" that might tickle people off and their beliefs 933173[/snapback] You just get mad too easy. :lol I stated why I believe you're not right. I can do it again if needed using the same premises. *shrugs*
September 7, 200519 yr Animals would be the last thing on my mind if I was in New Orleans. You know, things like water, food, securing my childrens well being would be what I most cared about. But thats just me. I know these things arent as important as dogs,other animals, and taking pictures of people with their dogs(while he can be doing something constructive, like helping the effort or passing out supplies) but what can I say.
September 7, 200519 yr Yeah, well, anyone with a pet knows how devasting it would be to have to abandon it to probable starvation. I'm glad some of you are so put together that you'd be able to prioritize everything so easily right after a life-shattering disaster. But some people aren't quite as with it. I'd probably vomit like that poor little kid if I had to leave my dog behind to starve. Seriously, I would walk the f*** out of the city with my dog before I got on one of those buses and just left it there. These are choices no one should have to make.
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