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stadium thought

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i haven't been on the site in a while so maybe people have already suggested this. anyway, here's a thought:

 

for a while, the green bay packers split their home schedule between green bay and milwaukee. might something like that work for the marlins? the team would play the bulk of its games in miami-dade, but would rotate some of its home schedule into broward and/or palm beach county sites. does that seem even remotely possible? i don't know what the highest-capacity fields are in broward and palm beach, but it might help the perennial problem that people from the north counties have a hard time making it down to weeknight games.

i haven't been on the site in a while so maybe people have already suggested this. anyway, here's a thought:

 

for a while, the green bay packers split their home schedule between green bay and milwaukee. might something like that work for the marlins? the team would play the bulk of its games in miami-dade, but would rotate some of its home schedule into broward and/or palm beach county sites. does that seem even remotely possible? i don't know what the highest-capacity fields are in broward and palm beach, but it might help the perennial problem that people from the north counties have a hard time making it down to weeknight games.

 

 

They need to work on getting funding for one stadium not two.

 

If they do get the money for a stadium, they are not going to play games at another field for part of the year

Where could they possibly play in Palm Beach or Broward, other than Spring Training facilities, all of which are too small.

the Packers played in County Stadium while their stadium was being renovated.

 

the best the Marlins could do is play half a season at the Trop, or possibly renovate the Citrus Bowl.

i haven't been on the site in a while so maybe people have already suggested this. anyway, here's a thought:

 

for a while, the green bay packers split their home schedule between green bay and milwaukee. might something like that work for the marlins? the team would play the bulk of its games in miami-dade, but would rotate some of its home schedule into broward and/or palm beach county sites. does that seem even remotely possible? i don't know what the highest-capacity fields are in broward and palm beach, but it might help the perennial problem that people from the north counties have a hard time making it down to weeknight games.

 

 

the north counties actually have a higher season ticket holder count too.

i haven't been on the site in a while so maybe people have already suggested this. anyway, here's a thought:

 

for a while, the green bay packers split their home schedule between green bay and milwaukee. might something like that work for the marlins? the team would play the bulk of its games in miami-dade, but would rotate some of its home schedule into broward and/or palm beach county sites. does that seem even remotely possible? i don't know what the highest-capacity fields are in broward and palm beach, but it might help the perennial problem that people from the north counties have a hard time making it down to weeknight games.

 

the north counties actually have a higher season ticket holder count too.

and a large population inaccessible due to their ties to other teams

i haven't been on the site in a while so maybe people have already suggested this. anyway, here's a thought:

 

for a while, the green bay packers split their home schedule between green bay and milwaukee. might something like that work for the marlins? the team would play the bulk of its games in miami-dade, but would rotate some of its home schedule into broward and/or palm beach county sites. does that seem even remotely possible? i don't know what the highest-capacity fields are in broward and palm beach, but it might help the perennial problem that people from the north counties have a hard time making it down to weeknight games.

 

the north counties actually have a higher season ticket holder count too.

and a large population inaccessible due to their ties to other teams

 

Puh-lease. In Miami you've got the "Jankees" too.

i haven't been on the site in a while so maybe people have already suggested this. anyway, here's a thought:

 

for a while, the green bay packers split their home schedule between green bay and milwaukee. might something like that work for the marlins? the team would play the bulk of its games in miami-dade, but would rotate some of its home schedule into broward and/or palm beach county sites. does that seem even remotely possible? i don't know what the highest-capacity fields are in broward and palm beach, but it might help the perennial problem that people from the north counties have a hard time making it down to weeknight games.

 

the north counties actually have a higher season ticket holder count too.

and a large population inaccessible due to their ties to other teams

Puh-lease. In Miami you've got the "Jankees" too.

In Miami, you have a population beyond its census rolls, with workers who live elsewhere.

 

I'm not going to get into this debate. It's clear as rain why every single owner of the Marlins has sought out sites that are closest to downtown.

i haven't been on the site in a while so maybe people have already suggested this. anyway, here's a thought:

 

for a while, the green bay packers split their home schedule between green bay and milwaukee. might something like that work for the marlins? the team would play the bulk of its games in miami-dade, but would rotate some of its home schedule into broward and/or palm beach county sites. does that seem even remotely possible? i don't know what the highest-capacity fields are in broward and palm beach, but it might help the perennial problem that people from the north counties have a hard time making it down to weeknight games.

 

the north counties actually have a higher season ticket holder count too.

and a large population inaccessible due to their ties to other teams

Puh-lease. In Miami you've got the "Jankees" too.

In Miami, you have a population beyond its census rolls, with workers who live elsewhere.

 

I'm not going to get into this debate. It's clear as rain why every single owner of the Marlins has sought out sites that are closest to downtown.

If close to downtown is the preferential spot, how do you explain Joe Robbie picking the present site for the then fashionable dual-purpose stadium when he moved the Dolphins away from The Orange Bowl. The football fans have had no problem finding the Dolphins. Are baseball fans different?

If close to downtown is the preferential spot, how do you explain Joe Robbie picking the present site for the then fashionable dual-purpose stadium when he moved the Dolphins away from The Orange Bowl. The football fans have had no problem finding the Dolphins. Are baseball fans different?

 

 

Sometimes people should really think things out before they post!

 

1. Baseball has 81 home games (on weekends and weeknights), football has 8 home games (all on Sundays, maybe 1 or 2 on a Monday). In order for baseball to have a good crowd you need a good walk-up. You get more of a walk-up crowd in a downtown setting because you're getting people coming out of their offices who probably decided to go to a game at 4:30 that afternoon. On a weekend, you supplement that with families who are making an outing out of the game. That's how it was when I lived in Boston. I would decide to go to a game that afternoon, so I'd take the "T" from my office at Downtown Crossing to Kenmore Square and just go to the game, then take the "T" back home (to Somerville). Football is an event whereby you go to the stadium and make a day of it. That's why baseball fans are different.

Yes, football fans that can pay the price of a NFL ticket are typically at their homes before the weekly game and generally like to make a day of the event. Thus a stadium near the suburbs, surrounded by highways and parking lots is tailor-made for football.

Baseball, which depends on constant and routine foot traffic, is a poor match for Dolphins Stadium' location. Despite what those who are too comfortable in their surroundings and/or short-sighted to see anything besides appeasing both groups of fans say, baseball needs an urban setting to thrive.

 

Plus that the land out there was cheap for Joe Robbie to lease [for eternity under favorable terms] didn't hurt.

i haven't been on the site in a while so maybe people have already suggested this. anyway, here's a thought:

 

for a while, the green bay packers split their home schedule between green bay and milwaukee. might something like that work for the marlins? the team would play the bulk of its games in miami-dade, but would rotate some of its home schedule into broward and/or palm beach county sites. does that seem even remotely possible? i don't know what the highest-capacity fields are in broward and palm beach, but it might help the perennial problem that people from the north counties have a hard time making it down to weeknight games.

 

 

By "splitting" games, the Packers used to play one or two games in Milwaukee, and haven't done that since around 1994 or 1995 (and NOT during the Lambeau renovations as was noted earlier!). Second, where do you propose Major League games be played in Broward and Palm Beach? Are you suggesting that each county build three MLB-quality stadiums? Are you seriously suggesting that the Marlins play regular season games at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter (capacity 6,871) and Fort Lauderdale Stadium (capacity 8,340)?

 

Again, a pointless idea that would mean the upkeep of three stadiums and all incidental rental costs, concession costs, and travel costs (shipping uniforms and equipment, etc. etc.).

 

As Aretha would say, "You gotta think! Think!!"

Wasn't there some buisiness man trying to get the Marlins to split half the games at Puerto Rico this season, but the Marlins rejected him? He was the same guy who put the Expos at PR deal together.

and even then the payroll wasn't topping $70 million.

 

70M is more then double what our average payroll is, and we have to deal with the Yankees and Redsox.

 

So with a notoriously frugal franchise, you have the audacity to suggest that another more successful franchise doesn't deserve to exist?

 

*sigh*

Yes, football fans that can pay the price of a NFL ticket are typically at their homes before the weekly game and generally like to make a day of the event. Thus a stadium near the suburbs, surrounded by highways and parking lots is tailor-made for football.

Baseball, which depends on constant and routine foot traffic, is a poor match for Dolphins Stadium' location. Despite what those who are too comfortable in their surroundings and/or short-sighted to see anything besides appeasing both groups of fans say, baseball needs an urban setting to thrive.

 

Plus that the land out there was cheap for Joe Robbie to lease [for eternity under favorable terms] didn't hurt.

 

You don't know this area. Just the fact that you say constant and routine foot traffic.....hah..hah...hah! In South Florida? At anytime, anywhere, especially the summer. Hah....hah....hah! Maybe on the beaches, but nowhere else. There is no one large urban area. It's a spread out metropolis for 70 miles. There's likely as many potential baseball fans working in the corporate parks in the North Broward/Boca Raton area or the Western Dade area as there are working in Miami. The whole area is a suburb/workzone. The present location is perfectly located, most convenient for all to get to. It just needs a new ballpark with a friendlier lease. Of course, as I've said before, the Marlins will go anywhere, so long as somebody else pays for their place of business.

You took me too literal. The term foot traffic does not mean just people walking around. Trust me, I know that even on a vacation to Florida you don't want to be without a car. It relates to a site that is easily accessible from all matters of transportation at a short distance from a series of large population centers. Downtown, Kendall, Hialeah, Fort Lauderdale, Miami Beach, West Palm Beach and Coral Gables are large population centers in South Florida. That the distance between the furthest two is quite significant does not understate the centers that lie in between. The Marlins, really, any business, would be best suited to focus on those centers that are clustered together. By drawing a lot from most, you benefit more than drawing a little from all.

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