Typical.

Surely the state's refusal to contribute what nearly every major league franchise in Florida has and Arriolla's attitude surely had an equal negative effect on the Marlins' feelings on the stadium deal than a funding gap.

 

Except the Marlins were the first team to be awarded that tax rebate. In fact the rebate was created to attract them to Florida.

 

Fact is the Marlins should have stepped up with professionals to get a new program started...not try to lazily double dip into an old one.

Deeper pockets means a stadium deal won't fall through when there is a $30 million funding gap.

 

Typical.

Surely the state's refusal to contribute what nearly every major league franchise in Florida has and Arriolla's attitude surely had an equal negative effect on the Marlins' feelings on the stadium deal than a funding gap.

 

Sure. But if either Cisneros or Codina are the owners they get this deal done. It's as simple as that. Those two are local. Loria is a carpetbagger. We need local ownership.

 

I can see a person making an argument for local ownership of the Marlins. But if you are going to make that argument, I don't know how you can include Gustavo Cisneros. That man is no local. He is a Venezuelan billionaire media mogul.

 

With extensive business and personal ties to Miami. He is a Florida resident, if I am not mistaken. Loria has no ties except the team.

Deeper pockets means a stadium deal won't fall through when there is a $30 million funding gap.

 

Typical.

Surely the state's refusal to contribute what nearly every major league franchise in Florida has and Arriolla's attitude surely had an equal negative effect on the Marlins' feelings on the stadium deal than a funding gap.

 

Sure. But if either Cisneros or Codina are the owners they get this deal done. It's as simple as that. Those two are local. Loria is a carpetbagger. We need local ownership.

 

I can see a person making an argument for local ownership of the Marlins. But if you are going to make that argument, I don't know how you can include Gustavo Cisneros. That man is no local. He is a Venezuelan billionaire media mogul.

 

With extensive business and personal ties to Miami. He is a Florida resident, if I am not mistaken. Loria has no ties except the team.

 

Cisneros has extensive business ties across South America, Central America, the Caribbean and the U.S. See http://www.cisneros.com/en/default.htm for a listing of his extensive holdings. As far as residence, he may have have a mansion in Florida but his main residence is still in Caracas, Venezuela as far as I know. By your reckoning, Cisneros would be a local in Mexico, Puerto Rico and a great many other countries. I reiterate, Cisneros is no local.

Deeper pockets means a stadium deal won't fall through when there is a $30 million funding gap.

 

Typical.

Surely the state's refusal to contribute what nearly every major league franchise in Florida has and Arriolla's attitude surely had an equal negative effect on the Marlins' feelings on the stadium deal than a funding gap.

 

Sure. But if either Cisneros or Codina are the owners they get this deal done. It's as simple as that. Those two are local. Loria is a carpetbagger. We need local ownership.

 

I can see a person making an argument for local ownership of the Marlins. But if you are going to make that argument, I don't know how you can include Gustavo Cisneros. That man is no local. He is a Venezuelan billionaire media mogul.

 

With extensive business and personal ties to Miami. He is a Florida resident, if I am not mistaken. Loria has no ties except the team.

 

Cisneros has extensive business ties across South America, Central America, the Caribbean and the U.S. See http://www.cisneros.com/en/default.htm for a listing of his extensive holdings. As far as residence, he may have have a mansion in Florida but his main residence is still in Caracas, Venezuela as far as I know. By your reckoning, Cisneros would be a local in Mexico, Puerto Rico and a great many other countries. I reiterate, Cisneros is no local.

 

 

His local connections are much stronger than Loria's. Everyone in the business community in So. Florida knows him. No one knows Loria, except those fans that he has had the privilege of throwing sh*t at.

What Prin really means is he's latin and Loria isn't.

 

I would guess over the past four years Loria has spent more time in South Florida than Cisneros has.

What Prin really means is he's latin and Loria isn't.

 

I would guess over the past four years Loria has spent more time in South Florida than Cisneros has.

 

I see all this talk about Loria and Cisneros, but only Codina has actually put up real property to get this team a ballpark.

Deeper pockets means a stadium deal won't fall through when there is a $30 million funding gap.

 

Typical.

Surely the state's refusal to contribute what nearly every major league franchise in Florida has and Arriolla's attitude surely had an equal negative effect on the Marlins' feelings on the stadium deal than a funding gap.

 

Sure. But if either Cisneros or Codina are the owners they get this deal done. It's as simple as that. Those two are local. Loria is a carpetbagger. We need local ownership.

 

I can see a person making an argument for local ownership of the Marlins. But if you are going to make that argument, I don't know how you can include Gustavo Cisneros. That man is no local. He is a Venezuelan billionaire media mogul.

Why not. I'm not privy to what the big decision makers really think in Dade County.....but I would think that Cisneros' thoughts carry more weight, power, money, and influence than Loria's.

What Prin really means is he's latin and Loria isn't.

 

I would guess over the past four years Loria has spent more time in South Florida than Cisneros has.

 

 

What is your guess based on? And has Loria been down here on business other than the Marlins? No.

 

About the Latin thing... we have to be realistic. A rich Latin American businessman with many business ties to South Florida is going to have an easier time than a carpetbagger from NY with no business ties to South Florida. That's just how it works. Is it fair? Who knows. Get me a rich gringo from NY that is involved with Latin America and Miami and knows everyone in the community and I'll show you someone more effective than Loria.

 

Question, do you think Cisneros or Codina would be as effective in NY as the owners of the Mets? Probably not. It's not because he's Latin, its because they don't know him the way they know those other dudes.