July 23, 200718 yr Actually I think Hanley has a higher ceiling than Reyes because his power is only going to get better, it's easy to see him getting a 30/30 season, dare I say, a 40/40 season (but that's my homer talking) and Miggy is already being compared to hitters like Hank Aaron, I'm sorry but I'm going with the guy who has the potential to be one of the greatest hitters the game has ever seen (I mean he's already got those legendary story things you hear about with other hall of famers, i.e. getting brushed down by Clemens in the WS then hitting a HR off the next pitch and let's not forget the intentional walk hit). But it's not like you guys suck, the greater thing is these are 4 of the best young players in the game and we get the privilege of watching them for the next 10-15 years. P.S. Sorry if I overdramatized Miggy but I truly think we're watching someone special here, if he ever left here, I honestly would cry my eyes out. In the same division too. I thought the Marlins had a much better future then the mets when you included the pitching last year but it seriously looks like a fluke. Willis, wtf happened to this guy? Anibal, Nolasco and Johnson having injuryproblems. No comment on Olson. Cabrera is something special, he is a better player then Wright but I do prefer Wright over Cabs.
July 23, 200718 yr I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? Because your a baseball fan who uses facts and reality to make your decision about the better player as opposed to a uniform? Were you the cab driver that hit Duaner Sanchez? :mis2
July 23, 200718 yr Wright did NOTHING April as he was adjusting to his new swing. Count his stats since May at least, because he didnt even have a HR in April and has close to 20 now. And we also forgot about that great defense the marlins play. lol I was waiting for your homer comment.. that's the best you got?? A new swing and defense :lol Miguel is definitely a better offensive player then David minus the speed but we all know how great Cabrera isnt defensively, so you know i'm taking DDub. Wright has saved 9 runs this year above what an average player might have. Cabrera has saved 1 above the average. (For comparison's sake, Zimmerman is at 13, Rolen at 10, Arod 7, and Chipper Jones at -7). Thats a pretty big difference, but Cabrera still rates as a sightly above average third baseman. Now, for Batting Runs Above Average Cabrera is at 43 and Wright is at 29. So a much larger gap. If you'd like a stat that takes into account Wright's admittedly ridonculous stolen base abilities, EQA has Wright at .309 (.260 is average, or David Eckstein) and Cabrera is at .337. In short, you'd have to be an absolute moron to choose Wright over Miguel. I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? If you had a working brain, you'd choose Miguel. To be honest, David Wright is my least favorite player in the league, and it's not even really his fault. He's a good player, but the fact that people even mention him in the same breath as Miguel (and in many cases, think he's better) just makes me incredibly, irrationally angry.
July 23, 200718 yr Wright did NOTHING April as he was adjusting to his new swing. Count his stats since May at least, because he didnt even have a HR in April and has close to 20 now. And we also forgot about that great defense the marlins play. lol I was waiting for your homer comment.. that's the best you got?? A new swing and defense :lol Miguel is definitely a better offensive player then David minus the speed but we all know how great Cabrera isnt defensively, so you know i'm taking DDub. Wright has saved 9 runs this year above what an average player might have. Cabrera has saved 1 above the average. (For comparison's sake, Zimmerman is at 13, Rolen at 10, Arod 7, and Chipper Jones at -7). Thats a pretty big difference, but Cabrera still rates as a sightly above average third baseman. Now, for Batting Runs Above Average Cabrera is at 43 and Wright is at 29. So a much larger gap. If you'd like a stat that takes into account Wright's admittedly ridonculous stolen base abilities, EQA has Wright at .309 (.260 is average, or David Eckstein) and Cabrera is at .337. In short, you'd have to be an absolute moron to choose Wright over Miguel. I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? If you had a working brain, you'd choose Miguel. To be honest, David Wright is my least favorite player in the league, and it's not even really his fault. He's a good player, but the fact that people even mention him in the same breath as Miguel (and in many cases, think he's better) just makes me incredibly, irrationally angry. You see now, I gave Cabreraprops about his great offensive talents but your acting like Wright is a pushover. Sure he doenst have Cabrera's offensive abilitiesbut you have to include defense, Wright is on the same playing field, definitely.
July 23, 200718 yr Actually I think Hanley has a higher ceiling than Reyes because his power is only going to get better, it's easy to see him getting a 30/30 season, dare I say, a 40/40 season (but that's my homer talking) and Miggy is already being compared to hitters like Hank Aaron, I'm sorry but I'm going with the guy who has the potential to be one of the greatest hitters the game has ever seen (I mean he's already got those legendary story things you hear about with other hall of famers, i.e. getting brushed down by Clemens in the WS then hitting a HR off the next pitch and let's not forget the intentional walk hit). But it's not like you guys suck, the greater thing is these are 4 of the best young players in the game and we get the privilege of watching them for the next 10-15 years. P.S. Sorry if I overdramatized Miggy but I truly think we're watching someone special here, if he ever left here, I honestly would cry my eyes out. In the same division too. I thought the Marlins had a much better future then the mets when you included the pitching last year but it seriously looks like a fluke. Willis, wtf happened to this guy? Anibal, Nolasco and Johnson having injuryproblems. No comment on Olson. Cabrera is something special, he is a better player then Wright but I do prefer Wright over Cabs. Willis is just having some mental problems and I think he's trying to carry the team too much, off the field problems are not helping either. Can't blame Anibal, Ricky, or JJ on their injury issues, it happens to a lot of pitchers, just a coincidence that it happened in the same season. Olsen is insane. I understand why you would choose Wright simply because you watch the guy more and obviously have more of a connection to him than Miggy.
July 23, 200718 yr Wright did NOTHING April as he was adjusting to his new swing. Count his stats since May at least, because he didnt even have a HR in April and has close to 20 now. And we also forgot about that great defense the marlins play. lol I was waiting for your homer comment.. that's the best you got?? A new swing and defense :lol Miguel is definitely a better offensive player then David minus the speed but we all know how great Cabrera isnt defensively, so you know i'm taking DDub. Wright has saved 9 runs this year above what an average player might have. Cabrera has saved 1 above the average. (For comparison's sake, Zimmerman is at 13, Rolen at 10, Arod 7, and Chipper Jones at -7). Thats a pretty big difference, but Cabrera still rates as a sightly above average third baseman. Now, for Batting Runs Above Average Cabrera is at 43 and Wright is at 29. So a much larger gap. If you'd like a stat that takes into account Wright's admittedly ridonculous stolen base abilities, EQA has Wright at .309 (.260 is average, or David Eckstein) and Cabrera is at .337. In short, you'd have to be an absolute moron to choose Wright over Miguel. I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? If you had a working brain, you'd choose Miguel. To be honest, David Wright is my least favorite player in the league, and it's not even really his fault. He's a good player, but the fact that people even mention him in the same breath as Miguel (and in many cases, think he's better) just makes me incredibly, irrationally angry. You see now, I gave Cabreraprops about his great offensive talents but your acting like Wright is a pushover. Sure he doenst have Cabrera's offensive abilitiesbut you have to include defense, Wright is on the same playing field, definitely. I know one thing Miggy has that Wright doesn't (I posted this in another thread)
July 23, 200718 yr Wright did NOTHING April as he was adjusting to his new swing. Count his stats since May at least, because he didnt even have a HR in April and has close to 20 now. And we also forgot about that great defense the marlins play. lol I was waiting for your homer comment.. that's the best you got?? A new swing and defense :lol Miguel is definitely a better offensive player then David minus the speed but we all know how great Cabrera isnt defensively, so you know i'm taking DDub. Wright has saved 9 runs this year above what an average player might have. Cabrera has saved 1 above the average. (For comparison's sake, Zimmerman is at 13, Rolen at 10, Arod 7, and Chipper Jones at -7). Thats a pretty big difference, but Cabrera still rates as a sightly above average third baseman. Now, for Batting Runs Above Average Cabrera is at 43 and Wright is at 29. So a much larger gap. If you'd like a stat that takes into account Wright's admittedly ridonculous stolen base abilities, EQA has Wright at .309 (.260 is average, or David Eckstein) and Cabrera is at .337. In short, you'd have to be an absolute moron to choose Wright over Miguel. I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? If you had a working brain, you'd choose Miguel. To be honest, David Wright is my least favorite player in the league, and it's not even really his fault. He's a good player, but the fact that people even mention him in the same breath as Miguel (and in many cases, think he's better) just makes me incredibly, irrationally angry. You see now, I gave Cabreraprops about his great offensive talents but your acting like Wright is a pushover. Sure he doenst have Cabrera's offensive abilitiesbut you have to include defense, Wright is on the same playing field, definitely. Did you completely ignore my previous post, or what? Wright isn't so far above Cabrera that he can make up for his obvious offensive inferiority. He'd have to be Scott Rolen circa 2004 with the glove to make up for Cabrera's offense.
July 23, 200718 yr Wright did NOTHING April as he was adjusting to his new swing. Count his stats since May at least, because he didnt even have a HR in April and has close to 20 now. And we also forgot about that great defense the marlins play. lol I was waiting for your homer comment.. that's the best you got?? A new swing and defense :lol Miguel is definitely a better offensive player then David minus the speed but we all know how great Cabrera isnt defensively, so you know i'm taking DDub. Wright has saved 9 runs this year above what an average player might have. Cabrera has saved 1 above the average. (For comparison's sake, Zimmerman is at 13, Rolen at 10, Arod 7, and Chipper Jones at -7). Thats a pretty big difference, but Cabrera still rates as a sightly above average third baseman. Now, for Batting Runs Above Average Cabrera is at 43 and Wright is at 29. So a much larger gap. If you'd like a stat that takes into account Wright's admittedly ridonculous stolen base abilities, EQA has Wright at .309 (.260 is average, or David Eckstein) and Cabrera is at .337. In short, you'd have to be an absolute moron to choose Wright over Miguel. I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? If you had a working brain, you'd choose Miguel. To be honest, David Wright is my least favorite player in the league, and it's not even really his fault. He's a good player, but the fact that people even mention him in the same breath as Miguel (and in many cases, think he's better) just makes me incredibly, irrationally angry. You see now, I gave Cabreraprops about his great offensive talents but your acting like Wright is a pushover. Sure he doenst have Cabrera's offensive abilitiesbut you have to include defense, Wright is on the same playing field, definitely. I know one thing Miggy has that Wright doesn't (I posted this in another thread) A lightsaber?
July 23, 200718 yr I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? Because your a baseball fan who uses facts and reality to make your decision about the better player as opposed to a uniform? Were you the cab driver that hit Duaner Sanchez? :mis2 Excuse me?
July 23, 200718 yr Wright did NOTHING April as he was adjusting to his new swing. Count his stats since May at least, because he didnt even have a HR in April and has close to 20 now. And we also forgot about that great defense the marlins play. lol I was waiting for your homer comment.. that's the best you got?? A new swing and defense :lol Miguel is definitely a better offensive player then David minus the speed but we all know how great Cabrera isnt defensively, so you know i'm taking DDub. Wright has saved 9 runs this year above what an average player might have. Cabrera has saved 1 above the average. (For comparison's sake, Zimmerman is at 13, Rolen at 10, Arod 7, and Chipper Jones at -7). Thats a pretty big difference, but Cabrera still rates as a sightly above average third baseman. Now, for Batting Runs Above Average Cabrera is at 43 and Wright is at 29. So a much larger gap. If you'd like a stat that takes into account Wright's admittedly ridonculous stolen base abilities, EQA has Wright at .309 (.260 is average, or David Eckstein) and Cabrera is at .337. In short, you'd have to be an absolute moron to choose Wright over Miguel. I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? If you had a working brain, you'd choose Miguel. To be honest, David Wright is my least favorite player in the league, and it's not even really his fault. He's a good player, but the fact that people even mention him in the same breath as Miguel (and in many cases, think he's better) just makes me incredibly, irrationally angry. You see now, I gave Cabreraprops about his great offensive talents but your acting like Wright is a pushover. Sure he doenst have Cabrera's offensive abilitiesbut you have to include defense, Wright is on the same playing field, definitely. Did you completely ignore my previous post, or what? Wright isn't so far above Cabrera that he can make up for his obvious offensive inferiority. He'd have to be Scott Rolen circa 2004 with the glove to make up for Cabrera's offense. I understand what you are saying, but you said you cant talk about them in the same breath and that's insane. It's like your comparing Miguel Cabrera and Edwin Encarnacion
July 23, 200718 yr Wright did NOTHING April as he was adjusting to his new swing. Count his stats since May at least, because he didnt even have a HR in April and has close to 20 now. And we also forgot about that great defense the marlins play. lol I was waiting for your homer comment.. that's the best you got?? A new swing and defense :lol Miguel is definitely a better offensive player then David minus the speed but we all know how great Cabrera isnt defensively, so you know i'm taking DDub. Wright has saved 9 runs this year above what an average player might have. Cabrera has saved 1 above the average. (For comparison's sake, Zimmerman is at 13, Rolen at 10, Arod 7, and Chipper Jones at -7). Thats a pretty big difference, but Cabrera still rates as a sightly above average third baseman. Now, for Batting Runs Above Average Cabrera is at 43 and Wright is at 29. So a much larger gap. If you'd like a stat that takes into account Wright's admittedly ridonculous stolen base abilities, EQA has Wright at .309 (.260 is average, or David Eckstein) and Cabrera is at .337. In short, you'd have to be an absolute moron to choose Wright over Miguel. I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? If you had a working brain, you'd choose Miguel. To be honest, David Wright is my least favorite player in the league, and it's not even really his fault. He's a good player, but the fact that people even mention him in the same breath as Miguel (and in many cases, think he's better) just makes me incredibly, irrationally angry. You see now, I gave Cabreraprops about his great offensive talents but your acting like Wright is a pushover. Sure he doenst have Cabrera's offensive abilitiesbut you have to include defense, Wright is on the same playing field, definitely. I know one thing Miggy has that Wright doesn't (I posted this in another thread) A lightsaber? That, and a higher batting average, home run total, doubles total, RBI total, slugging...
July 23, 200718 yr I understand what you are saying, but you said you cant talk about them in the same breath and that's insane. It's like your comparing Miguel Cabrera and Edwin Encarnacion Cabrera is a hall of fame type talent. Wright is a perrenial all star (more for the city he plays in than anything else). I would say by the end of their careers, they won't be in the same breath.
July 23, 200718 yr I understand what you are saying, but you said you cant talk about them in the same breath and that's insane. It's like your comparing Miguel Cabrera and Edwin Encarnacion Cabrera is a hall of fame type talent. Wright is a perrenial all star (more for the city he plays in than anything else). I would say by the end of their careers, they won't be in the same breath. ms. Cleo is that you?
July 23, 200718 yr I understand what you are saying, but you said you cant talk about them in the same breath and that's insane. It's like your comparing Miguel Cabrera and Edwin Encarnacion Cabrera is a hall of fame type talent. Wright is a perrenial all star (more for the city he plays in than anything else). I would say by the end of their careers, they won't be in the same breath. /endthread You got to realize we aren't ranking on Wright....we're just getting mad that you'd even venture to say that you'd rather have Wright. Are you Steve Phillips?
July 23, 200718 yr I understand what you are saying, but you said you cant talk about them in the same breath and that's insane. It's like your comparing Miguel Cabrera and Edwin Encarnacion Cabrera is a hall of fame type talent. Wright is a perrenial all star (more for the city he plays in than anything else). I would say by the end of their careers, they won't be in the same breath. ms. Cleo is that you? I would put all kinds of ridiculous amounts of money on Cabrera having the better career. Most similar players by age: Wright # Dick Allen (956) # Eric Chavez (941) # Scott Rolen (937) # Hank Blalock (933) # Bob Horner (927) # Duke Snider (921) * # Ken Keltner (920) # Grady Sizemore (916) # Tommy Davis (916) # Jim Ray Hart (913) Cabrera: 1. Hank Aaron (959) * 2. Orlando Cepeda (933) * 3. Frank Robinson (925) * 4. Joe Medwick (920) * 5. Mickey Mantle (914) * 6. Ken Griffey (907) 7. Andruw Jones (907) 8. Hal Trosky (905) 9. Vladimir Guerrero (900) 10. Al Kaline (900) * * Denotes Hall Of Famers Most similar for Wright is Dick Allen . A very good, but not great player (Career WARP3 of 95). For Cabrera, it is Hank Aaron (Career WARP3 of 210). Who is a ridiculously great player who is widely regarded as one of the 10 best hitters of all time.
July 23, 200718 yr Author Wright did NOTHING April as he was adjusting to his new swing. Count his stats since May at least, because he didnt even have a HR in April and has close to 20 now. And we also forgot about that great defense the marlins play. lol I was waiting for your homer comment.. that's the best you got?? A new swing and defense :lol Miguel is definitely a better offensive player then David minus the speed but we all know how great Cabrera isnt defensively, so you know i'm taking DDub. Wright has saved 9 runs this year above what an average player might have. Cabrera has saved 1 above the average. (For comparison's sake, Zimmerman is at 13, Rolen at 10, Arod 7, and Chipper Jones at -7). Thats a pretty big difference, but Cabrera still rates as a sightly above average third baseman. Now, for Batting Runs Above Average Cabrera is at 43 and Wright is at 29. So a much larger gap. If you'd like a stat that takes into account Wright's admittedly ridonculous stolen base abilities, EQA has Wright at .309 (.260 is average, or David Eckstein) and Cabrera is at .337. In short, you'd have to be an absolute moron to choose Wright over Miguel. I'm a mets fan on a marlins forum, why would I chose Miguel? And I thought the quality of any given player was defined by what they did on the field and not by your team affiliation_call it fandom if you will.I guess you do live in a different reality than the rest of us.What you said is the equivalent of a Rays fan saying that Wigginton is a better player than A-Rod because he is a Rays fan.Unbelievable,the things you read in these forums... :blink:
July 23, 200718 yr I understand what you are saying, but you said you cant talk about them in the same breath and that's insane. It's like your comparing Miguel Cabrera and Edwin Encarnacion Cabrera is a hall of fame type talent. Wright is a perrenial all star (more for the city he plays in than anything else). I would say by the end of their careers, they won't be in the same breath. ms. Cleo is that you? I would put all kinds of ridiculous amounts of money on Cabrera having the better career. Most similar players by age: Wright # Dick Allen (956) # Eric Chavez (941) # Scott Rolen (937) # Hank Blalock (933) # Bob Horner (927) # Duke Snider (921) * # Ken Keltner (920) # Grady Sizemore (916) # Tommy Davis (916) # Jim Ray Hart (913) Cabrera: 1. Hank Aaron (959) * 2. Orlando Cepeda (933) * 3. Frank Robinson (925) * 4. Joe Medwick (920) * 5. Mickey Mantle (914) * 6. Ken Griffey (907) 7. Andruw Jones (907) 8. Hal Trosky (905) 9. Vladimir Guerrero (900) 10. Al Kaline (900) * * Denotes Hall Of Famers Most similar for Wright is Dick Allen . A very good, but not great player (Career WARP3 of 95). For Cabrera, it is Hank Aaron (Career WARP3 of 210). Who is a ridiculously great player who is widely regarded as one of the 10 best hitters of all time. again well said, but the fact that this even has to be debated with anyone is disgusting
July 23, 200718 yr I understand what you are saying, but you said you cant talk about them in the same breath and that's insane. It's like your comparing Miguel Cabrera and Edwin Encarnacion Cabrera is a hall of fame type talent. Wright is a perrenial all star (more for the city he plays in than anything else). I would say by the end of their careers, they won't be in the same breath. ms. Cleo is that you? Well, congrats. You are the first person on this forum I have decided is officially a moron in every aspect of the word. If you really think that Wright is so much better, why don't you back it up with stats and such as opposed to just making ridiculous replies to anyone who you don't agree with. I mean, it's one this to be stubborn, it's another thing to act like a complete dick.
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