June 3, 200917 yr I thought the Miami TV market was bigger than Tampa's but looking at those numbers I guess Tampa's is bigger. Someone may want to check the sourcing of that site.
June 3, 200917 yr I thought the Miami TV market was bigger than Tampa's but looking at those numbers I guess Tampa's is bigger. Where does it say that Tampa Bay is bigger?
June 3, 200917 yr I thought the Miami TV market was bigger than Tampa's but looking at those numbers I guess Tampa's is bigger. Where does it say that Tampa Bay is bigger? The percentages show that the Tampa Bay market is bigger. The ratings percentages are higher for the Marlins by a good amount, but the total viewers for the Rays is almost equal to the total amount of Marlin viewers.
June 3, 200917 yr Author https://www.sportsbu...200906010301-01 Thru May 20th games. 3.38 on Fox Sports (up 5%) 3.22 on Sun Sports (down 3%) 16th out of the 29 American-based MLB teams. This topic comes up a lot. Some claim we have this great TV audience. Others say there's no interest at all. These figures show we're average. Not bad, but not great. That's what it says now, but we were higher a couple of years ago. Also, it was not just TV but radio ratings as well. What are the stats on that? That's what had been claimed, but no one was really able to cite a credible source, let alone say exactly where we ranked. Wouldn't doubt me if 2003-2005 and mid-late 2006 were higher. However, it's got to be disappointing to think that with the stadium along the way and the Marlins' future committed to South Florida for 30-40 years that we aren't seeing an upswing. One could expect attendance to drop in a poor economy (even with the Marlins' low ticket prices), but TV ratings should be much better.
June 3, 200917 yr I thought the Miami TV market was bigger than Tampa's but looking at those numbers I guess Tampa's is bigger. Where does it say that Tampa Bay is bigger? The percentages show that the Tampa Bay market is bigger. The ratings percentages are higher for the Marlins by a good amount, but the total viewers for the Rays is almost equal to the total amount of Marlin viewers. Hmm, strange. I do know for a fact that our Media Market (South Florida) is bigger than theirs (Tampa Bay).
June 3, 200917 yr Just a thought, but it might be interesting to see if there is an overall downswing in ALL cable tv ratings thanks to the economy -- with people perhaps dropping cable all together to save money.
June 3, 200917 yr Hmm, strange. I do know for a fact that our Media Market (South Florida) is bigger than theirs (Tampa Bay). Actually, the Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota) media market is larger than the Miami-Fort Lauderdale market. It isn't bigger if you add "Miami-Fort Lauderdale" and "West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce" markets. However, if you add Tampa-St. Pete and Orlando-Daytona, their combined markets are much bigger. Media market rankings, by size: RANK - MARKET - # OF HOUSEHOLDS - % OF U.S. 1 New York, NY 7,433,820 6.495 2 Los Angeles, CA 5,654,260 4.940 3 Chicago, IL 3,492,850 3.052 4 Philadelphia, PA 2,950,220 2.578 5 Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX 2,489,970 2.175 6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA 2,476,450 2.164 7 Boston, MA (Manchester, NH) 2,409,080 2.105 8 Atlanta, GA 2,369,780 2.070 9 Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD) 2,321,610 2.028 10 Houston, TX 2,106,210 1.840 11 Detroit, MI 1,926,970 1.684 12 Phoenix, AZ 1,855,930 1.622 13 Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota), FL 1,822,160 1.592 14 Seattle-Tacoma, WA 1,819,970 1.590 15 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN 1,730,530 1.512 16 Miami-Fort Lauderdale, FL 1,546,920 1.352 17 Cleveland-Akron (Canton), OH 1,524,930 1.332 18 Denver, CO 1,524,210 1.332 19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne, FL 1,466,420 1.281 20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto, CA 1,399,520 1.223 .... 38. West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce, FL 779,430 0.681
June 3, 200917 yr Hmm, strange. I do know for a fact that our Media Market (South Florida) is bigger than theirs (Tampa Bay). Actually, the Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota) media market is larger than the Miami-Fort Lauderdale market. It isn't bigger if you add "Miami-Fort Lauderdale" and "West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce" markets. However, if you add Tampa-St. Pete and Orlando-Daytona, their combined markets are much bigger. Media market rankings, by size: RANK - MARKET - # OF HOUSEHOLDS - % OF U.S. 1 New York, NY 7,433,820 6.495 2 Los Angeles, CA 5,654,260 4.940 3 Chicago, IL 3,492,850 3.052 4 Philadelphia, PA 2,950,220 2.578 5 Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX 2,489,970 2.175 6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA 2,476,450 2.164 7 Boston, MA (Manchester, NH) 2,409,080 2.105 8 Atlanta, GA 2,369,780 2.070 9 Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD) 2,321,610 2.028 10 Houston, TX 2,106,210 1.840 11 Detroit, MI 1,926,970 1.684 12 Phoenix, AZ 1,855,930 1.622 13 Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota), FL 1,822,160 1.592 14 Seattle-Tacoma, WA 1,819,970 1.590 15 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN 1,730,530 1.512 16 Miami-Fort Lauderdale, FL 1,546,920 1.352 17 Cleveland-Akron (Canton), OH 1,524,930 1.332 18 Denver, CO 1,524,210 1.332 19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne, FL 1,466,420 1.281 20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto, CA 1,399,520 1.223 .... 38. West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce, FL 779,430 0.681 Well, I always though of Miami-Ft Lauderdale-West Palm Beach together, as that's how I've always seen it, which has us at 12 if I remember correctly.
June 3, 200917 yr if the marlins are gonna pay the least in the majors for their players, it should cost the least in the majors for a ticket to watch them. yep, it is a business, and Loria is stealing from all of our pockets. No it shouldn't. I could think of many other reasons why it should cost less to watch a team. (Keep in mind this is just a general analysis which does not specifically relate to the Marlins): 1) sh*tty stadium. 2) sh*tty access. 3) The shittiest team in baseball, etc. Payroll should not have any bearing on ticket prices. Stadium experience and team performance come way before payroll. And even then, team performance will not always dictate ticket price. But I guess it is a good way to revert everyone's attention from your previous ridiculous post about the Marlins being above average when it comes to ticket prices (which, of course, cannot be further from the truth). But, hey, you can go ahead and make up your own sh*t on your own time. And not to mention, I think you have a problem with logic. You hate Loria because of the fire sale? What about Wayne and John Henry? They did the same thing. AND they DID NOT get us a stadium. But I guess you have a perfectly legitimate reason as to why you hate the guy who achieved OUR lifelong dream.
June 3, 200917 yr Henry firesale?? My bad. Didn't mean to criticize Henry for doing a firesale. My main criticism of Henry is getting us no where stadium-wise. And then he used us to make way for his purchase of the Red Sox.
June 3, 200917 yr I would be careful in analyzing these numbers relative to the two Marlins cable affiliates at least in so much as viewership may be down because games available on each and how many customers getting the signal may have changed. I also don't know how satellite is counted or the ever-growing shared dish systems employed in large residential properties - highrises as well "communities" - alters the way numbers are tabulated. It isn't like twenty or thirty years ago where you had, one, maybe two distribution systems that were easy to quantify, the channels is fractured into dozens and dozens or players. Questions come to mind for example like how were the numbers for the recent Marlins/Rays series counted when it was essentially a Rays-only broadcast? Even in Miami-Dade I bet there's a better than 50/50 chance those were not counted as Marlins viewership numbers but rather 100% Rays. I don't know the criteria and I'm just guessing but it does raise some interesting questions.
June 4, 200917 yr Just a thought, but it might be interesting to see if there is an overall downswing in ALL cable tv ratings thanks to the economy -- with people perhaps dropping cable all together to save money. I actually wouldnt be surprised if the numbers rise, due to the people who dont want to spend money on tickets and would rather stay home and watch the games on TV.
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