The clubhouse atmosphere? It should only be "we suck and we need to be better". Last thing I want to hear from the "clubhouse" is how unfair it is. When we were 3-11, 8 games under, most were complaining how bad we were, now we are only two games better and we should care about the clubhouse? What should the players think? This time Loria's history is not relevant, this is about now and this team is underperforming. Don't blame the manager? OK, no manager should ever be fired because it is always on the players, but that is not reality. Stanton will be pissed off? Hey, in 6 years he can leave. How many games has he cost us with men on base, late innings and swings at dozens of pitches off the plate and in the dirt. Maybe he should have had the same approach it took him almost 35 games to figure out.