Admin Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 ESPN.com Will commissioner Bud Selig stiff-arm baseball's collective bargaining agreement in order to implement a more aggressive testing plan for performance-enhancing drugs? An industry source told the Houston Chronicle that Selig is contemplating such a move. Unless significant progress is made in negotiations between the owners and the Players Association, Selig may act within the next 10 days, the source said. To do so, the Chronicle reports, Selig would use his far-reaching "best interests of the game" clause in an attempt to bypass the collective bargaining process and establish a testing plan similar to the one used in the minor leagues. That plan, the newspaper notes, would include a zero-tolerance policy in which one positive test will result in an immediate suspension of approximately two weeks. Additional positive tests would result in longer suspensions. Selig would not discuss the Chronicle's report, but a source told the newspaper that the commissioner is "adamant about doing something." "It's a health issue," the source told the Chronicle. "Our doctors have shown us that steroid use is linked to heart disease, sexual dysfunction and other problems. Players are going to start dying if we don't do something." Meanwhile, Players Association executive director Don Fehr reportedly is receptive to having "constructive dialogue" with Major League Baseball on its desire to strengthen the steroid-testing plan. Fehr by Friday is expected to reply to a letter sent by Major League Baseball last week regarding the matter, a lawyer with connections to the union told The Los Angeles Times. However, that same lawyer told The Times that Selig essentially would be overstepping his bounds if he uses the "best interests" provision to push the matter. In the lawyer's estimation, the provision does not give Selig the authority to dismiss the labor agreement; rather, he only can challenge issues that are subject to the grievance procedure. "[Pushing for a more aggressive testing plan]would certainly not fit that classification," the lawyer told The Times, "and it would certainly be challenged by the union. At any rate I would be surprised if he took a step that drastic before the union replies to the letter." Several veteran players, including Braves relief pitcher John Smoltz and Rangers starter Kenny Rogers, recently have criticized what is thought by drug experts to be a weak testing policy. Hall of Famer and Yankees senior advisor Reggie Jackson and former Mets manager Bobby Valentine also have been outspoken in favor of more stringent testing. But a union source told the Chronicle that players "want to give the current program time to work." The union says it has advised players about the dangers of steroids but will not agree to more testing. The union believes further testing would violate the privacy of players. Asked about their view of the possibility of Selig instituting a tougher testing program, union officials declined comment to the Chronicle. But one official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the paper that Selig could not change a policy that was agreed to in the collective bargaining agreement of 2002. "We didn't have any testing before last season," the official said. "We agreed to a testing plan. We haven't even given it a chance to work." But Selig has had a team of attorneys investigating his chances of beating the grievance union leaders likely would file to prevent implementation of a new program. Anyone else feel a work stoppage coming if Selig goes thru with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Best interest of who? The fans who actually care, or the players who know they're shortening their lifespan and messing up their body? I say ban all muscle enhancers and all that crap etc. It's all cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 and we all know who the public woudl support. the union is stupid and continues to refuse to address the real issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I say they start listening to us a little bit more. Take a general poll at the Opening Home Series of every major league team. Give a ballot to every seat, you have to vote. If the majority says test and get stiffer penalties, you do it. We should have a little bit more say, being that it is our money that essentially runs the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 The clause has been invoked and all 40 man roster players will be tested immeadiately (sp) and dealt with as lined out in the CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 03/17/2004 4:59 PM ET MLB to include THG in drug-testing program Tickets Scoreboard Fantasy The Major League Baseball Health Policy Advisory Committee (HPAC), the joint (MLB-MLBPA) committee charged with overall administration of the Joint Drug Program, has announced it will test for tetrahydragestrinone, commonly called THG. The HPAC has determined that THG is an anabolic agent, and the United States government has banned its sale. "Testing for THG is an important step toward reaching our goal of zero tolerance," said Baseball Commissioner Allan H. (Bud) Selig. "I am committed to that goal and advocate a more stringent and effective drug-testing program in the Major Leagues, similar to our program in the minor leagues." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 The public in general I think cares for the most part. The reason the union is being a stickler about it is the Union represents the players, including the lab freaks. Think of it, if you joined a union, you want them sticking up for you not selling you out at the first opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 these are illegal steroids, MLB should be testing like any other employer which has employees doing physical work. CBAs cannot overrule federal law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 these are illegal steroids, MLB should be testing like any other employer which has employees doing physical work. CBAs cannot overrule federal law. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Selig must invoke the clause, he will not lose in court. It has been ruled several times that employers can administer tests at reasonable times without employee approval. Any employee who refuses can be terminated or suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrizzle Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 It would really suck to lose one of our guys because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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