June 20, 200323 yr Well, Danny, let?s look at the facts rather than make assumptions based on whatever misconceptions you may have about the team: Fact ? [1]Mariano Rivera, [2]Jorge Posada, [3]Nick Johnson, [4]Alfonso Soriano, [6]Derek Jeter, [8]Bernie Williams, [1]Andy Pettitte, [1]Sterling Hitchcock, [5]Drew Henson, and [9]Juan Rivera are all Yankee farm prospects [obviously, I?m not counting [7]Hideki Matsui as a ?farm prospect?]. Hmm - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9... That looks like a lineup to me. That looks like it MIGHT be every position on the field. Do me a favor please. Name another team in baseball that can field an entire team of their own top quality prospects. It may be a more daunting task than you think? Fact - Arbitration is guided by success, the Yankees have been successfull, the Yankees players have been rewarded for their success by arbitrators, as a result - the Yankees have to pay to keep their own. Welcome to the world of capitalism. If you own a business and have talented employees who enjoy tremendous amounts of success, you better reward them because they have EARNED it and your business will not succeed without them. This is ESPECIALLY true if you KNOW that your employees would be wooed by your biggest competitors. Fact ? The Yankees have traded away more All-Star quality players than any other team in baseball in order to address pressing immediate needs. Ask any Twins fan how the Knoblauch-Guzman trade panned out. Ask any Marlins fan how the Ed Yarnall-Mike Lowell trade panned out. Are you catching all of this? But wait ? there?s more? Fact ? Mike Mussina was CHASED out of Baltimore. The Yankees would have been okay with Duque, but an inescapable opportunity presented itself and Mussina wanted a little revenge on his former team. Fact ? Jason Giambi WOULD have been an A except that they decided that they didn?t want to give their FRANCHISE player a no-trade clause. [and the Yankees would have been ?okay? if they were ?stuck? with Nick Johnson and Tino Martinez at 1st]. So don?t cry the financial game with me. Fact ? The retirement of Paul Oneill necessitated the acquisition of a rf with a good arm [being that Bernie throws like a girl]. Mondesi was the guy they ended up with [incidentally ? a HUGE downgrade from Paulie ? but I digress]. Fact ? The retirement of Scott Brosious necessitated the acquisition of a 3b. Robin Ventura is 147 years old, already has a house in NY, and no other team in baseball wanted him. If you are going to continue to cry the ?big market ? small market,? ?big money ? little money? song, check out a previous post on the topic here entitled ?The Price of Contention:? http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...wtopic=2754&hl= im not going to even read all this trash info, you poeple took a simple statement tha yankees buy there world series, just look at there salary. you all got off the main topic by far, try to defeat my word. no one was crying or complaining, everyone here gets so touchy
June 24, 200323 yr im not going to even read all this trash info... I see. In other words - you read it, but you have no data to back up your theories. Well, as I have shown time and time again, I am very respectfull of other people's opinions. Of course, I would prefer that someone supports their ideas with facts, but that's cool. Not everyone has facts to support their ideas. Just do me a favor and let me know when you come up with a sentient thought on the issue. :thumbup
June 24, 200323 yr Soriano didn't really come up with them. The won the bidding war for him. And Hitchcock is HORRIBLE. Same goes for Henson.
June 24, 200323 yr Soriano - If by "bidding war" you mean "non-drafted free agent," then you are absolutely correct... Bottom line, the Yankees were the only team that shopped Soriano - until he was a Yankee... http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlib...ano_Alfonso.stm The Dominican-born Soriano was signed by the New York Yankees in September 1998 as a non-drafted free agent after spending the 1996 and '97 seasons in Japan. He quickly established himself as one of the premier prospects in a well-stocked farm system, and despite inquiries from other teams the Yankees steadfastly refused to part with him. Hitchcock - Granted, he isn't a TOP pitcher, but it would be tough to say that he's "horrible" considering he was the 1998 NLCS MVP and that teams are still interested in signing him away from the Yankees. His injuries have hampered him recently, but he has shown the stuff to be a solid #2 or #3 starter on most teams in baseball. Look at it this way, he's better than Ted Lilly - that's why the Yankees kept him instead - and Lilly's in the starting rotation of, arguably, the best pitching staff in baseball. Henson - He has a grand total of 1 year of minor league experience under his belt. Torre has been pleased with his progress. Every team that enters trade negotiations with the Yankees brings up his name. There has GOT to be a reason for all of that. I'll hold off for a season or two before calling this guy "horrible."
June 24, 200323 yr Soriano - If by "bidding war" you mean "non-drafted free agent," then you are absolutely correct... Bottom line, the Yankees were the only team that shopped Soriano - until he was a Yankee... http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlib...ano_Alfonso.stm The Dominican-born Soriano was signed by the New York Yankees in September 1998 as a non-drafted free agent after spending the 1996 and '97 seasons in Japan. He quickly established himself as one of the premier prospects in a well-stocked farm system, and despite inquiries from other teams the Yankees steadfastly refused to part with him. Hitchcock - Granted, he isn't a TOP pitcher, but it would be tough to say that he's "horrible" considering he was the 1998 NLCS MVP and that teams are still interested in signing him away from the Yankees. His injuries have hampered him recently, but he has shown the stuff to be a solid #2 or #3 starter on most teams in baseball. Look at it this way, he's better than Ted Lilly - that's why the Yankees kept him instead - and Lilly's in the starting rotation of, arguably, the best pitching staff in baseball. Henson - He has a grand total of 1 year of minor league experience under his belt. Torre has been pleased with his progress. Every team that enters trade negotiations with the Yankees brings up his name. There has GOT to be a reason for all of that. I'll hold off for a season or two before calling this guy "horrible." George spends for quality... plain and simple... "You get what you pay for"
June 25, 200323 yr George spends for quality... plain and simple... Agreed. Although, he *does* make the occasional mistake [cough - fat toad Irabu - cough]... :cool
June 26, 200323 yr George spends for quality... plain and simple... Agreed. Although, he *does* make the occasional mistake [cough - fat toad Irabu - cough]... :cool everything can't be perfect... tell George that :cool
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