August 26, 200421 yr I'm a little late to this party, but I don't want him back. I do want to trade him, though. If he's going to come back to the NFL, he's got to do it through the Dolphins. So if he's thinking about coming back, let's encourage him to do so, and then trade his ass for some picks or something. There's about a 1% chance the NFL would consider letting him play the year, what with the mandatory one-year period for filing his retirement papers, and that 3rd drug offense, which also carries a one-year sentence. MAYBE he can use this year to take care of both. And then we trade him. Cause I don't trust his ass. I don't trust him to stay with the team this time. And I don't trust him to work hard. Let some other desperate team deal with him from here on out. Besides, there's a very strong chance we pick up Edgerrin James in FA after this season... EDIT: So, I got some of the details of Ricky's punishment wrong. I amend my estimation of his chances of playing this year to about 7%, provided he even makes an effort to get back in.
August 26, 200421 yr im making my stance very clear on this issue. he screwed us but i want to win and ricky gives us the best chance. i hate his ass and will only think of him as an animal that we give the ball to 30 times a game (whenever his suspension ends). about the weed issue: i dont care. he's not hte only one. he can smoke all the weed he wants and i really dont care. obviously the suspension issues complicates that but he did a pretty good job of covering it up for a few years. dont give me this moral highground s*** because he's not the only one and you all know it. i draw the line at cheating, weed isnt cheating. i sound like an immoral motherf***er dont i? damn. how the f*** did i never get addicted to gambling? 526765[/snapback] 1. I'm not sure an unreliable distraction gives you the best chance to win. 2. Weed IS cheating, it's an illegal substance on the NFL's anti-drug policy list. 3. He's been caught what 3 times?? What happens if (more likely when) he gets caught again, since you know the NFL will be ALL OVER him after his comments post retirement. 4. "Who cares he screwed us" I can name you 54 other Miami Dolphins who care for starters that he sold them out at the last moment for no reason.... 526774[/snapback] 2. weed aint cheating. it gives you no advantages. i dont care what the policy on weed is. 526778[/snapback] :lol :lol That's some f***ing s*** right there man......WHO CARES WHAT ADVANTAGE IT GIVES YOU??? It's still cheating. Let me ask you this, is driving without a licence not cheating?? Sure it's illegal, but it gives you no advantage on the road...... 526784[/snapback] that made no sense. weed gives u no advantage on the field and everyone does it. he just got caught. 526788[/snapback] I don't GAF what advantage it gives you, if the NFL says it's banned, and you do it, your cheating...end of story.... and EVERYBODY does weed huh?? EVERY player in the NFL?? :lol
August 26, 200421 yr I'm a little late to this party, but I don't want him back. I do want to trade him, though. If he's going to come back to the NFL, he's got to do it through the Dolphins. So if he's thinking about coming back, let's encourage him to do so, and then trade his ass for some picks or something. There's about a 1% chance the NFL would consider letting him play the year, what with the mandatory one-year period for filing his retirement papers, and that 3rd drug offense, which also carries a one-year sentence. MAYBE he can use this year to take care of both. And then we trade him. Cause I don't trust his ass. I don't trust him to stay with the team this time. And I don't trust him to work hard. Let some other desperate team deal with him from here on out. Besides, there's a very strong chance we pick up Edgerrin James in FA after this season... EDIT: So, I got some of the details of Ricky's punishment wrong. I amend my estimation of his chances of playing this year to about 7%, provided he even makes an effort to get back in. 526791[/snapback] Holy s*** logic has arrived...... Thanks for showing up to the party sir..... :thumbup
August 26, 200421 yr im making my stance very clear on this issue. he screwed us but i want to win and ricky gives us the best chance. i hate his ass and will only think of him as an animal that we give the ball to 30 times a game (whenever his suspension ends). about the weed issue: i dont care. he's not hte only one. he can smoke all the weed he wants and i really dont care. obviously the suspension issues complicates that but he did a pretty good job of covering it up for a few years. dont give me this moral highground s*** because he's not the only one and you all know it. i draw the line at cheating, weed isnt cheating. i sound like an immoral motherf***er dont i? damn. how the f*** did i never get addicted to gambling? 526765[/snapback] 1. I'm not sure an unreliable distraction gives you the best chance to win. 2. Weed IS cheating, it's an illegal substance on the NFL's anti-drug policy list. 3. He's been caught what 3 times?? What happens if (more likely when) he gets caught again, since you know the NFL will be ALL OVER him after his comments post retirement. 4. "Who cares he screwed us" I can name you 54 other Miami Dolphins who care for starters that he sold them out at the last moment for no reason.... 526774[/snapback] 2. weed aint cheating. it gives you no advantages. i dont care what the policy on weed is. 526778[/snapback] :lol :lol That's some f***ing s*** right there man......WHO CARES WHAT ADVANTAGE IT GIVES YOU??? It's still cheating. Let me ask you this, is driving without a licence not cheating?? Sure it's illegal, but it gives you no advantage on the road...... 526784[/snapback] that made no sense. weed gives u no advantage on the field and everyone does it. he just got caught. 526788[/snapback] I don't GAF what advantage it gives you, if the NFL says it's banned, and you do it, your cheating...end of story.... and EVERYBODY does weed huh?? EVERY player in the NFL?? :lol 526793[/snapback] thats not what we're saying but that s*** is around and he isnt the only one.
August 26, 200421 yr im making my stance very clear on this issue. he screwed us but i want to win and ricky gives us the best chance. i hate his ass and will only think of him as an animal that we give the ball to 30 times a game (whenever his suspension ends). about the weed issue: i dont care. he's not hte only one. he can smoke all the weed he wants and i really dont care. obviously the suspension issues complicates that but he did a pretty good job of covering it up for a few years. dont give me this moral highground s*** because he's not the only one and you all know it. i draw the line at cheating, weed isnt cheating. i sound like an immoral motherf***er dont i? damn. how the f*** did i never get addicted to gambling? 526765[/snapback] 1. I'm not sure an unreliable distraction gives you the best chance to win. 2. Weed IS cheating, it's an illegal substance on the NFL's anti-drug policy list. 3. He's been caught what 3 times?? What happens if (more likely when) he gets caught again, since you know the NFL will be ALL OVER him after his comments post retirement. 4. "Who cares he screwed us" I can name you 54 other Miami Dolphins who care for starters that he sold them out at the last moment for no reason.... 526774[/snapback] 2. weed aint cheating. it gives you no advantages. i dont care what the policy on weed is. 526778[/snapback] :lol :lol That's some f***ing s*** right there man......WHO CARES WHAT ADVANTAGE IT GIVES YOU??? It's still cheating. Let me ask you this, is driving without a licence not cheating?? Sure it's illegal, but it gives you no advantage on the road...... 526784[/snapback] that made no sense. weed gives u no advantage on the field and everyone does it. he just got caught. 526788[/snapback] I don't GAF what advantage it gives you, if the NFL says it's banned, and you do it, your cheating...end of story.... and EVERYBODY does weed huh?? EVERY player in the NFL?? :lol 526793[/snapback] thats not what we're saying but that s*** is around and he isnt the only one. 526799[/snapback] That's what Sheff says.......and I know more people than Ricky do weed in the NFL, and they are ALL wrong and ALL cheating......
August 26, 200421 yr Author And what happened to "traveling the world" and "not needing money" and "being tired of football"? The guy is either a liar or indecisive or both, and he clearly doesn't care about his teammates?? Yet you want him back because he will maybe take you from a 6-10 to an 8-8 team??? Sheesh....I'd rather lose than have a selfish, unreliable player like that on my team.... 526744[/snapback] srry. with him for a full season with this team right now we are a playoff team 526745[/snapback] Ricky doesn't help your TERRIBLE offensive line, bad quarterbacks, the fact that you just lost the AFC's reigning sack leader, or your bad coaching...... 526746[/snapback] we have better quarter backs than last year,better recievers, more depth at defense with poole and reggie howard.better special teams and a better o line than last year when ricky still ran for 1300 yds and we were a 10-6 team. how are we worse? PWNED 526749[/snapback] 1. Check out "the savior" Ricky's YPC last year, it SUCKED, cuz you have no line, and you did very little to address your O line this offseason. 2. Losing Ogunleye will hurt you, that's not even worth arguing. 3. AJ Feeley??? Jay Fiedler??? :lol :lol 4. What does better special teams do for you?? 5. 10-6 didn't get you in the playoffs last year, so that means nothing. PWNED!!! 526755[/snapback] we have adressed alot of the o line with carey in the draft and now mcintosh who we signed lonterm looks like hes on pace to be ready for the season and that would be huge. ricky makes the o-line.feeley feidler sure beats greise and fiedler.hes one of the active winning quarterbacks with only brady warner and bulger with a better win % so hes not the problem.ogun is overatted and wouldnt be the sack leader without taylor on the other side so dont talk about a team u dont follow.anyone opposite taylor will get 8 +sacks a year. special teams provides better field position and the occasional kick return for td which we never had which we now have with fred russel. 10-6 got 2 teams in last year we missed out on tie breakers. we now have a better receiver core which can only help. again PWNED! 526770[/snapback] 1. Check out Taylor's numbers without Trace Armstrong and Ogunley, you will be surprised...... 2. So a rooke and mcintosh are going to save your O line?? Please, it still sucks. 3. Feeley has a great winning percentage in what...7 starts???? 4. Fred Russell is also a rookie, and won't guaranteed be the special teams savior. 5. Your defense is a year older, and whether you like it or not, lost one of it's best players. 6. Dave Wannestedt by himself will cost this team 2 games, book it. again...PWNED! 526777[/snapback] first that wasnt close to a pwn. second im talking about fiedler if u knew anything bout football u would know he has a high win %.david bowens can be or will be just as good as oguns 8 sack first season. its no big deal. we also have depth with jay williams.do ur research. 2 more good corners in poole and howard only improve an already dangerous secondary.even if wanndstedt does cost anything hes been here 4 years and has had winning seasons every year.so instead of winning 12 or 13 we will win 10 or 11.rookies make impacts. who cares if russel is a rook. wasnt moss a rook for the jets and still lead the league in PR TD's?u are a tool to think rookies cant make an impact. 526786[/snapback] 1. Rookies can make an impact, but usually in order to do so, they have to be, you know, good...... 2. Fred Russel was undrafted wasn't he??? There is a reason..... 3. Fielder's high win percentage has nothing to do with him, and more to do with his defense, which just lost it's sack leader. 4. Wannestedt sucks, you know, i know it, the whole world knows it, not worth arguing. 5. Every name you throw at me (poole, howard, williams) is a role player that will play 20 to 25 plays a game, and they won't take you to the super bowl. 6. I do my research, but based on all your homer comments about a .500 at best team, you dont....... 526790[/snapback] this hasnt been a 500 team in years and has only had ogun for 2 years. so what makes u think we will be worse off? a team is made up of role players. ask the panthers last year who howard was a big part of and will miss. having 4 good DB is sure hell of alot better than having 2.not giving fiedler his credit shows u know nothing. he has done what he can to not lose games and has won games on his own as well with his mobility.to say that this defense is worse cuz we lost one player who was made to look like a star by his agent shows your knowledge.and u just yelling out wannstedt sucks shows u have no facts to back up ur claims. he still is a winning coach with the fins and cuz alot of ppl dont like him doesnt matter he wins.gimme facts not s*** u read about on espn and think u know about.
August 26, 200421 yr And what happened to "traveling the world" and "not needing money" and "being tired of football"? The guy is either a liar or indecisive or both, and he clearly doesn't care about his teammates?? Yet you want him back because he will maybe take you from a 6-10 to an 8-8 team??? Sheesh....I'd rather lose than have a selfish, unreliable player like that on my team.... 526744[/snapback] srry. with him for a full season with this team right now we are a playoff team 526745[/snapback] Ricky doesn't help your TERRIBLE offensive line, bad quarterbacks, the fact that you just lost the AFC's reigning sack leader, or your bad coaching...... 526746[/snapback] we have better quarter backs than last year,better recievers, more depth at defense with poole and reggie howard.better special teams and a better o line than last year when ricky still ran for 1300 yds and we were a 10-6 team. how are we worse? PWNED 526749[/snapback] 1. Check out "the savior" Ricky's YPC last year, it SUCKED, cuz you have no line, and you did very little to address your O line this offseason. 2. Losing Ogunleye will hurt you, that's not even worth arguing. 3. AJ Feeley??? Jay Fiedler??? :lol :lol 4. What does better special teams do for you?? 5. 10-6 didn't get you in the playoffs last year, so that means nothing. PWNED!!! 526755[/snapback] we have adressed alot of the o line with carey in the draft and now mcintosh who we signed lonterm looks like hes on pace to be ready for the season and that would be huge. ricky makes the o-line.feeley feidler sure beats greise and fiedler.hes one of the active winning quarterbacks with only brady warner and bulger with a better win % so hes not the problem.ogun is overatted and wouldnt be the sack leader without taylor on the other side so dont talk about a team u dont follow.anyone opposite taylor will get 8 +sacks a year. special teams provides better field position and the occasional kick return for td which we never had which we now have with fred russel. 10-6 got 2 teams in last year we missed out on tie breakers. we now have a better receiver core which can only help. again PWNED! 526770[/snapback] 1. Check out Taylor's numbers without Trace Armstrong and Ogunley, you will be surprised...... 2. So a rooke and mcintosh are going to save your O line?? Please, it still sucks. 3. Feeley has a great winning percentage in what...7 starts???? 4. Fred Russell is also a rookie, and won't guaranteed be the special teams savior. 5. Your defense is a year older, and whether you like it or not, lost one of it's best players. 6. Dave Wannestedt by himself will cost this team 2 games, book it. again...PWNED! 526777[/snapback] first that wasnt close to a pwn. second im talking about fiedler if u knew anything bout football u would know he has a high win %.david bowens can be or will be just as good as oguns 8 sack first season. its no big deal. we also have depth with jay williams.do ur research. 2 more good corners in poole and howard only improve an already dangerous secondary.even if wanndstedt does cost anything hes been here 4 years and has had winning seasons every year.so instead of winning 12 or 13 we will win 10 or 11.rookies make impacts. who cares if russel is a rook. wasnt moss a rook for the jets and still lead the league in PR TD's?u are a tool to think rookies cant make an impact. 526786[/snapback] 1. Rookies can make an impact, but usually in order to do so, they have to be, you know, good...... 2. Fred Russel was undrafted wasn't he??? There is a reason..... 3. Fielder's high win percentage has nothing to do with him, and more to do with his defense, which just lost it's sack leader. 4. Wannestedt sucks, you know, i know it, the whole world knows it, not worth arguing. 5. Every name you throw at me (poole, howard, williams) is a role player that will play 20 to 25 plays a game, and they won't take you to the super bowl. 6. I do my research, but based on all your homer comments about a .500 at best team, you dont....... 526790[/snapback] this hasnt been a 500 team in years and has only had ogun for 2 years. so what makes u think we will be worse off? a team is made up of role players. ask the panthers last year who howard was a big part of and will miss. having 4 good DB is sure hell of alot better than having 2.not giving fiedler his credit shows u know nothing. he has done what he can to not lose games and has won games on his own as well with his mobility.to say that this defense is worse cuz we lost one player who was made to look like a star by his agent shows your knowledge.and u just yelling out wannstedt sucks shows u have no facts to back up ur claims. he still is a winning coach with the fins and cuz alot of ppl dont like him doesnt matter he wins.gimme facts not s*** u read about on espn and think u know about. 526801[/snapback] Your stupidity and ignorance has made all the necessary argument for me in this thread, so i'm done. Just make sure to know where you heard it first when the dolphins suck this year, oh and thanks to you, I will have a reason to laugh at them when they are bad.
August 26, 200421 yr Author And what happened to "traveling the world" and "not needing money" and "being tired of football"? The guy is either a liar or indecisive or both, and he clearly doesn't care about his teammates?? Yet you want him back because he will maybe take you from a 6-10 to an 8-8 team??? Sheesh....I'd rather lose than have a selfish, unreliable player like that on my team.... 526744[/snapback] srry. with him for a full season with this team right now we are a playoff team 526745[/snapback] Ricky doesn't help your TERRIBLE offensive line, bad quarterbacks, the fact that you just lost the AFC's reigning sack leader, or your bad coaching...... 526746[/snapback] we have better quarter backs than last year,better recievers, more depth at defense with poole and reggie howard.better special teams and a better o line than last year when ricky still ran for 1300 yds and we were a 10-6 team. how are we worse? PWNED 526749[/snapback] 1. Check out "the savior" Ricky's YPC last year, it SUCKED, cuz you have no line, and you did very little to address your O line this offseason. 2. Losing Ogunleye will hurt you, that's not even worth arguing. 3. AJ Feeley??? Jay Fiedler??? :lol :lol 4. What does better special teams do for you?? 5. 10-6 didn't get you in the playoffs last year, so that means nothing. PWNED!!! 526755[/snapback] we have adressed alot of the o line with carey in the draft and now mcintosh who we signed lonterm looks like hes on pace to be ready for the season and that would be huge. ricky makes the o-line.feeley feidler sure beats greise and fiedler.hes one of the active winning quarterbacks with only brady warner and bulger with a better win % so hes not the problem.ogun is overatted and wouldnt be the sack leader without taylor on the other side so dont talk about a team u dont follow.anyone opposite taylor will get 8 +sacks a year. special teams provides better field position and the occasional kick return for td which we never had which we now have with fred russel. 10-6 got 2 teams in last year we missed out on tie breakers. we now have a better receiver core which can only help. again PWNED! 526770[/snapback] 1. Check out Taylor's numbers without Trace Armstrong and Ogunley, you will be surprised...... 2. So a rooke and mcintosh are going to save your O line?? Please, it still sucks. 3. Feeley has a great winning percentage in what...7 starts???? 4. Fred Russell is also a rookie, and won't guaranteed be the special teams savior. 5. Your defense is a year older, and whether you like it or not, lost one of it's best players. 6. Dave Wannestedt by himself will cost this team 2 games, book it. again...PWNED! 526777[/snapback] first that wasnt close to a pwn. second im talking about fiedler if u knew anything bout football u would know he has a high win %.david bowens can be or will be just as good as oguns 8 sack first season. its no big deal. we also have depth with jay williams.do ur research. 2 more good corners in poole and howard only improve an already dangerous secondary.even if wanndstedt does cost anything hes been here 4 years and has had winning seasons every year.so instead of winning 12 or 13 we will win 10 or 11.rookies make impacts. who cares if russel is a rook. wasnt moss a rook for the jets and still lead the league in PR TD's?u are a tool to think rookies cant make an impact. 526786[/snapback] 1. Rookies can make an impact, but usually in order to do so, they have to be, you know, good...... 2. Fred Russel was undrafted wasn't he??? There is a reason..... 3. Fielder's high win percentage has nothing to do with him, and more to do with his defense, which just lost it's sack leader. 4. Wannestedt sucks, you know, i know it, the whole world knows it, not worth arguing. 5. Every name you throw at me (poole, howard, williams) is a role player that will play 20 to 25 plays a game, and they won't take you to the super bowl. 6. I do my research, but based on all your homer comments about a .500 at best team, you dont....... 526790[/snapback] this hasnt been a 500 team in years and has only had ogun for 2 years. so what makes u think we will be worse off? a team is made up of role players. ask the panthers last year who howard was a big part of and will miss. having 4 good DB is sure hell of alot better than having 2.not giving fiedler his credit shows u know nothing. he has done what he can to not lose games and has won games on his own as well with his mobility.to say that this defense is worse cuz we lost one player who was made to look like a star by his agent shows your knowledge.and u just yelling out wannstedt sucks shows u have no facts to back up ur claims. he still is a winning coach with the fins and cuz alot of ppl dont like him doesnt matter he wins.gimme facts not s*** u read about on espn and think u know about. 526801[/snapback] Your stupidity and ignorance has made all the necessary argument for me in this thread, so i'm done. Just make sure to know where you heard it first when the dolphins suck this year, oh and thanks to you, I will have a reason to laugh at them when they are bad. 526805[/snapback] again insults,and no facts to back anything up. u proved me right. they were gonna suck anyways this year without ricky so saying they will suck is like saying the yankees will make the playoffs its a win win situation.so id rather suck with ricky and have a chance than suck without him .
August 26, 200421 yr The only thing that makes me consider taking Ricky back is this thought: You know he's going to want to endear himself to his teammates again. Well, he's going to work like a motherf***er to do so, and with a fire lit under his ass, there's no saying how dangerous Ricky might be. We all know he has the ABILITY to take over games practically on his own because we saw it in 2002. Last year, he was lazy. Which Ricky do you get? Meanwhile, I just headed over to my fantasy league to pick him up. I'm shameless...
August 26, 200421 yr The only thing that makes me consider taking Ricky back is this thought: You know he's going to want to endear himself to his teammates again. Well, he's going to work like a motherf***er to do so, and with a fire lit under his ass, there's no saying how dangerous Ricky might be. We all know he has the ABILITY to take over games practically on his own because we saw it in 2002. Last year, he was lazy. Which Ricky do you get? Meanwhile, I just headed over to my fantasy league to pick him up. I'm shameless... 526808[/snapback] :lol :lol seriously though, i agree with the points in both your posts. we can try to trade him because he is unreliable but at the same time, we all know what he can do.
August 26, 200421 yr If Ricky returns Im sure he will have a very successful season. Whether its a full season or just 5 games. He'll put up very good numbers. And saying marijuana is cheating shows how much little intelligence you have. Yes it is not allowed according to the rules of the NFL. Yes if caught failing a drug test you can get suspended or fined. But marijuana does not give any human being any ADVANTAGES at all.
August 26, 200421 yr sooo do i pick him up in the late rounds of my fantasy football draft or what 526826[/snapback] lol
August 26, 200421 yr What a joke, I hope Ricky stays retired, otherwise if he comes back for "financial reasons" it just shows he's another selfish football player like Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens and the rest of the sort. And those are the "sort" that I can't stand. STAY RETRIED RICKY!
August 26, 200421 yr god i hope he returns, with him back and our newley developed passing game. we will be a double threat. 526707[/snapback] What passing game? You are talking about the Dolphins, right?
August 26, 200421 yr I don't want him back. I'm serious. I don't care if we need him, he is not a team guy and he's a jerk for walking out like that. Maybe some of you can forgive him, but I can't. 526718[/snapback] Amen
August 26, 200421 yr And what happened to "traveling the world" and "not needing money" and "being tired of football"? The guy is either a liar or indecisive or both, and he clearly doesn't care about his teammates?? Yet you want him back because he will maybe take you from a 6-10 to an 8-8 team??? Sheesh....I'd rather lose than have a selfish, unreliable player like that on my team.... 526744[/snapback] srry. with him for a full season with this team right now we are a playoff team 526745[/snapback] Meh When was the last time Ricky had a postseason carry for the Miami Dolphins?
August 26, 200421 yr I hope Ricky stays retired, otherwise if he comes back for "financial reasons" it just shows he's another selfish football player like Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens and the rest of the sort. 526830[/snapback] Chad Johnson!? WTF!? How many of your beloved Packers sleep in the damn stadium so they can watch film? Celebrating touchdowns doesn't make you selfish you mook.
August 26, 200421 yr This is a guy Marvin Lewis had to talk into taking some snaps off in practice and take his foot off the gas a bit so he has everything on gameday. But he's selfish cause he's got some rythmn. And back on topic: Ricky's a tool.
August 26, 200421 yr And what happened to "traveling the world" and "not needing money" and "being tired of football"? The guy is either a liar or indecisive or both, and he clearly doesn't care about his teammates?? Yet you want him back because he will maybe take you from a 6-10 to an 8-8 team?? Sheesh....I'd rather lose than have a selfish, unreliable player like that on my team.... 526744[/snapback] srry. with him for a full season with this team right now we are a playoff team 526745[/snapback] Ricky doesn't help your TERRIBLE offensive line, bad quarterbacks, the fact that you just lost the AFC's reigning sack leader, or your bad coaching...... 526746[/snapback] we have better quarter backs than last year,better recievers, more depth at defense with poole and reggie howard.better special teams and a better o line than last year when ricky still ran for 1300 yds and we were a 10-6 team. how are we worse? PWNED 526749[/snapback] well look at the team the last couple of years as compared to the team the phins had the 2 years before that when they did make the playoffs. we had a better running back the last 2 years , better recievers, a better TE, a better defense (full of pro bowlers) so how were we any worse? answer: we didn't make the playoffs! PWNED!!!
August 26, 200421 yr anyone who thinks this was all about negotiating a new contract is not too bright. this is NOT the same thing as Ogunleye. players do not negotiate by coming out and saying they've been smoking pot all the time and masking it to pass drug tests, (yeah that'll give you alot of leverage in negotiations :blink: ) Ricky obviously wasn't thinking too much about the financial repercussions of his retirement when he retired. (me must have been stoned off his ass) this is all about Ricky being shook that he might have to pay back all that money. his heart is not in the game any more, i don't see him giving a real effort out there if he does come back. he might get injured by the second week and stay injured collecting pay checks. they should see if anyone is dumb enough to trade an early round draft pick for him and do the deal, let him be some other team's problem.
August 26, 200421 yr Ricky quells comeback rumors BY JASON COLE, DAN LE BATARD AND ARMANDO SALGUERO jcole@herald.com Ricky Williams said Wednesday night he contacted the Dolphins earlier this week at the request of agent Leigh Steinberg, but the retired running back said he has no plans to return to the team anytime soon despite numerous reports he is coming back. Williams hasn't completely ruled out a return, but he made it clear that under the current state of the coaching staff and of his contract that ``it's not in my best interests to play football right now.'' Beyond that, Williams is facing a suspension of at least one year from the NFL for violations of the league's substance-abuse policy. Williams, who is in Australia and said he plans to travel to India soon for ''a couple of months,'' said the Dolphins basically forced the conversation after sending a letter last week demanding repayment of $8.6 million by Monday. ''Yeah, it's true that I called them,'' Williams said. ``You need to understand that I didn't call them to see if I could come back. I was just causing a conversation to happen. ``They sent me the letter, and [steinberg] told me it's in my best interests to call them.'' Asked if he was prepared to repay the money or return to the team by Monday, Williams said, ``That's really up to the Dolphins about the money . . . this whole thing gets crazier by the day.'' SEVERAL FACTORS Williams said a number of factors weighed into his decision to retire. Among them was the decision to promote Chris Foerster to offensive coordinator instead of Marc Trestman in May after Joel Collier stepped down. ''I felt that if I played I probably would have gotten hurt,'' Williams said. ``It was my opinion that Marc Trestman should be the coordinator. When Chris was going through things in practice, it didn't make sense to me. I felt they were going to run me again as they had in the past. I would feel more comfortable if [Trestman] was the coordinator because then we at least would have had balance.'' In two seasons with the Dolphins, Williams carried 775 times, including a franchise-record 393 last season. ''I've taken a beating the past two years, and I did it with a smile on my face,'' he said. But Williams did say money was a factor this offseason. Steinberg and the Dolphins were in discussions about a restructured contract. ''I do feel I have been underpaid the past couple of years,'' Williams said. ``I'm not a person who cares that much about money. It's more of a respect thing.'' The Dolphins revised Williams' contract, allowing him to make $5.3 million in incentives the past two seasons. QUICK RETURN UNLIKELY Regardless of what Williams ultimately does, it's unlikely he will play this season. An NFL source said ''major hurdles'' would have to be crossed before Williams could play. Among the hurdles is that Williams would have to appeal to NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue for reinstatement after filing his retirement papers this month. Even if he were reinstated from retirement, Williams likely would face the suspension. Williams has tested positive for marijuana use three times since being acquired by the Dolphins in March 2002. Finally, coach Dave Wannstedt would have to discuss the return with members of the team, some of whom were critical of Williams. Williams was contacted in Australia with the help of agent Drew Rosenhaus, who was ''invited'' by Williams, both men said.
August 26, 200421 yr :thumbdown I don't want him back. Period. We've moved on. No reason for us to backtrack, whether we need him or not.
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