November 6, 200421 yr PARIS, 16 Oct. (IPS) Almost two months after having hanged a 16 year old girl, the ruling Iranian ayatollahs are to commit another human crime by condemning another young girl to stoning. According to Iranian and foreign press, Zhila Izadi, a 13 year old girl from the north-western city of Marivan had been condemned to death by stoning after being found that she had been pregnant from her 15 years-old brother. The independent Iranian online newspaper ?Peyke Iran? (www.peykeiran.com) that had first revealed the news last week reported on Saturday 16 October 2004 that the girl has given birth two weeks ago in prison. While Zhila as been sentenced to stoning, her brother, jailed in Tehran, is to receive only 150 lashes, in accordance with Islamic laws. Mrs. Shirin Ebadi, the Iranian outspoken lawyer and human rights activists who became the first Iranian and Muslim female to win the prestigious Nobel Peace Award for 2003 disclosed the news about the case of Zhila Izadi during her recent tour of Scandinavian countries. The circumstances under which Zhila became pregnant from her brother is still not known, but independent Iranian sources outside the country said it was the father, a devout Muslim, who informed the authorities about the ?disgrace? the young girl had caused the family. Human rights activists in Denmark said though Zhila?s sentence had not been confirmed yet, but the fear is that, with the family?s approval, she faces the same faith as that of Ms. Ateqeh Rajabi, the 16 years-old girl hanged in public by the judge, a cleric, who condemned her on charges of prostitution. ?A court in Marivan has condemned Zhila to death by stoning and the family, which is very fundamental, has agreed?, confirmed Ms. Nahid Riazi of a Copenhagen-based human rights group that fights to the rights of women, adding that the young girl had been separated from her new born baby after the birth. Ms. Rajabi was publicly hanged on a street in the city centre of Neka in the northern province of Mazandaran, on 15 August, for "acts incompatible with chastity". Faced with domestic and international outcry of dismay, the authorities said the young girl was ?mentally incompetent?. However, informed sources revealed that Ms. Ateqeh was sentenced to death after, during the "trial", she expressed outrage at the misogyny and injustice in the Islamic Republic and its Islam-based judicial system. ?The lower court judge was so incensed by her protestations that he personally put the noose around her neck after his decision had been upheld by the Supreme Court?, the sources reported. The execution of Ateqeh Rajabi was the tenth execution of a child offender in Islamic Republic recorded by Amnesty International since 1990. Amnesty International is alarmed that this execution was carried out despite reports that Ateqeh Rajabi was not believed to be mentally competent, and that she reportedly did not have access to a lawyer at any stage. As a party to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, Iran is bound not to execute child offenders. Both treaties provide that capital punishment shall not be imposed for offences committed by persons under 18 year of age at the time of committing the offence. Though it is possible that the Iranian authorities reject the stoning sentence, but it remains that the accused could very probably be condemned to death, human rights sources said, calling on the international community to put pressure on Iranian authorities to save Zhila from death. The news of Zhila's possible stoning come at a time that the ruling conservatives have increased dramatically crackdown on the very limited social liberties, including more drastic measures on women accused of not respecting islamic codes of dressing and arresting more journalists and intellectuals. ENDS IZADI 161004 http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/arti...di_161004.shtml
November 6, 200421 yr Where's the world here? I can't believe civilized Europe looks the other way when this s*** is occuring.
November 6, 200421 yr a 13 year old girl from the north-western city of Marivan had been condemned to death by stoning after being found that she had been pregnant from her 15 years-old brother. Obviously not her fault. How can we trust a country with a nukes when they stone a 13 year old girl to death?
November 6, 200421 yr Where's the world here? I can't believe civilized Europe looks the other way when this s*** is occuring. 609568[/snapback] Get used to it. Where is the United States in all this? If this is how the world turns to one girl, than how do they let 100,000 of these cases happen in Darfur without protestation.
November 6, 200421 yr Great, we're back in 1000 BC. Where's the world here?? I can't believe civilized Europe looks the other way when this s*** is occuring. 609568[/snapback] Get used to it. Where is the United States in all this? If this is how the world turns to one girl, than how do they let 100,000 of these cases happen in Darfur without protestation. 609583[/snapback] So you want us to go in now?
November 6, 200421 yr Great, we're back in 1000 BC. Where's the world here?? I can't believe civilized Europe looks the other way when this s*** is occuring. 609568[/snapback] Get used to it. Where is the United States in all this? If this is how the world turns to one girl, than how do they let 100,000 of these cases happen in Darfur without protestation. 609583[/snapback] So you want us to go in now? 609621[/snapback] We went into Iraq. The humanitarian crisis is a lot worse in Darfur right now, its a genocide. The hypocrisy of you Bush supporters is astounding. [bUSHLOGIC] Lets go into Iraq to save the people from Saddam, but f*** Darfur and Iran, they don't have WMDs. [/bUSHLOGIC]
November 6, 200421 yr According to most liberals, dude, we're spread too thin in Iraq. We can't just go in to every s***ty country and take out their leaders. Maybe if the rest of the world stepped up, that would be do-able. But I'm still waiting on that.
November 7, 200421 yr According to you conservatives, Iraq is now an excuse to not focus on real atrocities, like in Darfur. And I guess it is true: Republicans DO eat their own. Why else would you have a pic of Sen. Spector in a demeaning manner?
November 7, 200421 yr I'm sure the President will still agree that Iraq is MUCH more dangerous than Iran or North Korea, despite everyone else thinking differently.
November 7, 200421 yr I'm sure the President will still agree that Iraq is MUCH more dangerous than Iran or North Korea, despite everyone else thinking differently. 610149[/snapback] Iran and the DPRK aren't killing anyone at the moment, so that seems axiomatic. 610158[/snapback] They're both killing their own people, just like Saddam. Especially North Korea. Not to mention, both countries have nukes, or will shortly.
November 7, 200421 yr I'm sure the President will still agree that Iraq is MUCH more dangerous than Iran or North Korea, despite everyone else thinking differently. 610149[/snapback] Iran and the DPRK aren't killing anyone at the moment, so that seems axiomatic. 610158[/snapback] They're both killing their own people, just like Saddam. Especially North Korea. Not to mention, both countries have nukes, or will shortly. 610161[/snapback] Do you think we should take military action against someone with nukes? 610166[/snapback] Hey, we thought Saddam had them, but we did it anyway.
November 8, 200421 yr We never thought Saddam had nukes. What planet are you on? Up your meds. According to Bush he did. Remember the "uranium shipment" he used as "evidence" that Saddam was building WMD. Seriously, if Bush said "Saddam has chemical weapons", there's no way he would've gotten congress' support to go to war. There's no doubt Bush was suggesting that WMD = nukes, unless you just want to be revisionist for the sake of argument.
November 8, 200421 yr Great, we're back in 1000 BC. Where's the world here?? I can't believe civilized Europe looks the other way when this s*** is occuring. 609568[/snapback] Get used to it. Where is the United States in all this? If this is how the world turns to one girl, than how do they let 100,000 of these cases happen in Darfur without protestation. 609583[/snapback] So you want us to go in now? 609621[/snapback] We went into Iraq. The humanitarian crisis is a lot worse in Darfur right now, its a genocide. The hypocrisy of you Bush supporters is astounding. [bUSHLOGIC] Lets go into Iraq to save the people from Saddam, but f*** Darfur and Iran, they don't have WMDs. [/bUSHLOGIC] 609634[/snapback] Unfortunately your argument just proves the opposing stance. Iraq is not a reason why we should go to Sudan, if it anything it proves to us how right we are in NOT militarily intervening in several situations such as Rwanda or sudan. If we intervene every time theres a genocide we'd have troops stationed in 15 extra countries right now. You think Iraq is bad, imagine having troops also in rwanda, cambodia, sudan, east timor etc. You cant invade and leave, if you commit troops youre there for the long haul. If we would have gone into rwanda stopped the genocide and left whose to say it wouldnt have kicked up where it we stopped it. Iraq was a mistake, thats it over and done. Lets not make another one by sending troops anywhere else, including Sudan
November 9, 200421 yr where are the liberals for these issues? Here you go: http://www.amnesty.org/ Our hearts have been "bleeding" about this for the longest time. Now cfdodgemarlin and others that prefer bashing liberals wanna show me a conservative site that advocates helping humans suffering? And being a member of Amnesty myself, I know they are much more liberal than bipartisan. Some of you wanna just bash all Iranians? Think there arent people in that country trying their asses off trying to fix things? Youre whining about it while sitting thousands of miles away and calling them barbarians without a clue at how things are operating. But Im sure some of you are all over this and up in arms advocating for that girl right? Wanna give me examples of what youve done? http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMD...open&of=ENG-IRN
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