November 9, 200421 yr Johnson: 35 GS, 245.2 IP, 16 wins, 2.60 ERA, 0.90 WHIP, 290 K, .197 BAA, 4 CG, 2 SO Clemens: 33 GS, 214.1 IP, 18 wins, 2.98 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 218 K, .217 BAA, 0 CG This award is the award for the best pitcher of the year, not the best pitcher on a good team. Unit, hands down, has had the best year of any pitcher in the National League. If Unit were on any other team, he would easily have 25 wins.
November 9, 200421 yr the only problem is that he wasnt on another team but those numbers are hard to argue with
November 9, 200421 yr The reason why Clemens has an edge is because of his Win-Loss record. The people who vote for Cy Youngs look at their record over other stats.
November 9, 200421 yr You'd have to have jumped on the Marlins bandwagon not too long ago to think that Cy Young goes to the best pitcher, whether or not that's what it's suppose to mean hardly dictates what has been the precedent for determining the Cy Young for quite some time now There is a huge plus to those with great winning percentages and totals. Brown was snubbed twice while wearing Teal in back to back season in 96 and 97 That should have taught you that it isn't always given to the best pitcher. If Brown didn't win it those years I don't really care if Johnson doesn't win it, even if he was the best pitcher. Of course the funny thing is that no one considers Sheets in the discussion who had a debatebly better season than either, albeit with time on the DL.
November 9, 200421 yr The only reason the writers could have chosen Clemens over the Unit was because he had 2 more wins, but if that was the case then they should have chosen the NL's only 20 game winner, Roy Oswalt over Clemens and clearly a perfect game ought to make up for any sort of lack of wins. Doesn't make sense at all. The Unit was clearly the most dominant pitcher in the NL, baseball writers were obviously on something when they voted.
November 9, 200421 yr I would've voted for Clemens. I'm sure 18-4 vs. 16-14 was what did it. WHIP, and Ks, and BAA really don't matter at all. It's really all about how many runs you let in, and how many wins you get out of it. I really don't know how their respective ballparks might factor into the numbers, so I can't comment on that. But, for me, Johnson didn't pitch in a single important game this year, and that does hurt him in my view. Is that his fault? No. But it still hurts him.
November 9, 200421 yr The reason why Clemens has an edge is because of his Win-Loss record. The people who vote for Cy Youngs look at their record over other stats. 611442[/snapback] By that standard, Russ Ortiz would have won last year.
November 10, 200421 yr I don't even think this is debatable.... Randy Johnson should have won it. The guy was penalized all year for having a sh**y offense, hence his win/loss record. Here we are, a month after the season and his offense has screwed him over once again.
November 10, 200421 yr Johnson: 35 GS, 245.2 IP, 16 wins, 2.60 ERA, 0.90 WHIP, 290 K, .197 BAA, 4 CG, 2 SO Clemens: 33 GS, 214.1 IP, 18 wins, 2.98 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 218 K, .217 BAA, 0 CG This award is the award for the best pitcher of the year, not the best pitcher on a good team. Unit, hands down, has had the best year of any pitcher in the National League. If Unit were on any other team, he would easily have 25 wins. 611404[/snapback] 14 losses
November 10, 200421 yr The reason why Clemens has an edge is because of his Win-Loss record.? The people who vote for Cy Youngs look at their record over other stats. 611442[/snapback] By that standard, Russ Ortiz would have won last year. 611758[/snapback] um, schmidt had a better record than Ortiz last year
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