This post just adds fuel to the parochial fire of South Florida. Dade this, Broward that! Broward folks are scared that they're going to get mugged in downtown Miami by someone who isn't "white", Dade folks don't want to fight I-95 and/or the Palmetto to get clogged in traffic on Broward Blvd. (trust me folks, I work in downtown Ft. Lauderdale, this ain't no traffic paradise here!).

 

While I'm a native Miamian and would prefer to see the stadium in downtown Miami (even now that I work in Ft. Laud and live in Boynton Beach), just build the damn park anywhere right now so that the team can stay here. Enough of the ignorant posts about downtown Miami and downtown Ft. Lauderdale.

 

I say get the park built on that vacant land next to Pro Player and that way everybody is happy!

I say build the park, but you can't do it without giving a thought to location, that's just idiotic.

The Panthers have better attendance than the Heat did this past year. They both stank and both have new modern arenas. The Panthers have a much better location for families to go to and have the draw of Sawgrass next door. The Heat have downtown Miami...enough said.

Let see .....

 

Last year was the worst year of attendance for Heat but if you look at the past five years,the heat have way better numbers.Main reason attendance is down for Miami heat is pricing and of course the team wasn't helping.This year I bet the Heat attendance will be alot better than last year.

The Panthers have better attendance than the Heat did this past year. They both stank and both have new modern arenas. The Panthers have a much better location for families to go to and have the draw of Sawgrass next door. The Heat have downtown Miami...enough said.

Let see .....

 

Last year was the worst year of attendance for Heat but if you look at the past five years,the heat have way better numbers.Main reason attendance is down for Miami heat is pricing and of course the team wasn't helping.This year I bet the Heat attendance will be alot better than last year.

Let see .....

 

Last year was the worst year of attendance for Heat but if you look the past five years the heat have way better numbers.THe seats for a Miami Heat game just keep going up but this year they will remain the same.This year I bet the Heat attendance will be alot better than last year.

The Heat had a much better team than the PAnthers, and people down here aren't very interested in Hockey.

Let see .....

 

Last year was the worst year of attendance for Heat but if you look the past five years the heat have way better numbers.THe seats for a Miami Heat game just keep going up but this year they will remain the same.This year I bet the Heat attendance will be alot better than last year.

The Heat had a much better team than the PAnthers, and people down here aren't very interested in Hockey.

see, that's the problem, you can't have people change their lives and routines to come out and see a baseball game. People won't do it.

but that problem would exist no matter where you put the stadium. if you work in broward but live in dade you would have the exact same problem.

see, that's the problem, you can't have people change their lives and routines to come out and see a baseball game. People won't do it.

but that problem would exist no matter where you put the stadium. if you work in broward but live in dade you would have the exact same problem.

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point!

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point!

I live in North West Dade less than 10 minutes from Holywood and neither location isn't eactly close to where I live.

I live in North West Dade less than 10 minutes from Holywood and neither location isn't eactly close to where I live.

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point! The problem is people down there don't support the team when they are winning, and the stadium should be built for convenience, but it is very hard to do in South Florida with the way it is layed out.

 

Pro Player is convenient but not a good place for baseball. So lets say you build a new ballpark next to the Pro, What do they do to help the area become a little bit more attractive (shops, restaurants, etc.)?

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point! The problem is people down there don't support the team when they are winning, and the stadium should be built for convenience, but it is very hard to do in South Florida with the way it is layed out.

 

Pro Player is convenient but not a good place for baseball. So lets say you build a new ballpark next to the Pro, What do they do to help the area become a little bit more attractive (shops, restaurants, etc.)?

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point! The problem is people down there don't support the team when they are winning, and the stadium should be built for convenience, but it is very hard to do in South Florida with the way it is layed out.

 

Pro Player is convenient but not a good place for baseball. So lets say you build a new ballpark next to the Pro, What do they do to help the area become a little bit more attractive (shops, restaurants, etc.)? that's just your own opinion based on nothing.

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point! The problem is people down there don't support the team when they are winning, and the stadium should be built for convenience, but it is very hard to do in South Florida with the way it is layed out.

 

Pro Player is convenient but not a good place for baseball. So lets say you build a new ballpark next to the Pro, What do they do to help the area become a little bit more attractive (shops, restaurants, etc.)? that's just your own opinion based on nothing.

I live in North West Dade less than 10 minutes from Holywood and neither location isn't eactly close to where I live.

I say build it in Downtown Hollywood, it isn't far from the Pro, has Tri-Rail right there along with I-95 and the Turnpike. It is a nice place to walk and eat. Would be very nice for baseball.

I live in North West Dade less than 10 minutes from Holywood and neither location isn't eactly close to where I live.

I say build it in Downtown Hollywood, it isn't far from the Pro, has Tri-Rail right there along with I-95 and the Turnpike. It is a nice place to walk and eat. Would be very nice for baseball.

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point! The problem is people down there don't support the team when they are winning, and the stadium should be built for convenience, but it is very hard to do in South Florida with the way it is layed out.

 

Pro Player is convenient but not a good place for baseball. So lets say you build a new ballpark next to the Pro, What do they do to help the area become a little bit more attractive (shops, restaurants, etc.)? that's just your own opinion based on nothing. It isn't an opinion when you have 13,000 avg. coming out to a game and your team is over .500. stop saying it's my opinion, what is your reason for the lack of support?

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point! The problem is people down there don't support the team when they are winning, and the stadium should be built for convenience, but it is very hard to do in South Florida with the way it is layed out.

 

Pro Player is convenient but not a good place for baseball. So lets say you build a new ballpark next to the Pro, What do they do to help the area become a little bit more attractive (shops, restaurants, etc.)? that's just your own opinion based on nothing. It isn't an opinion when you have 13,000 avg. coming out to a game and your team is over .500. stop saying it's my opinion, what is your reason for the lack of support?

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point! The problem is people down there don't support the team when they are winning, and the stadium should be built for convenience, but it is very hard to do in South Florida with the way it is layed out.

 

Pro Player is convenient but not a good place for baseball. So lets say you build a new ballpark next to the Pro, What do they do to help the area become a little bit more attractive (shops, restaurants, etc.)? that's just your own opinion based on nothing. It isn't an opinion when you have 13,000 avg. coming out to a game and your team is over .500. stop saying it's my opinion, what is your reason for the lack of support? the stadium is in the border of dade and broward, is not "in miami" as you want to say. it exactly in carol city, no closer to downtown miami than it is downtown ft. lauderdale.

LEts play hypothetical...this is going to be realistic and lets lose the Broward thing, and pick a site in downtown miami ok.

 

Guy works downtown, wants to get wife and two kids (ages 6 and 9) to the ballgame. They live in Broward. She can drive and has car, doesn't like riding the MetroRail, but he drives to work and will drive them all back after the game. What will will they do?

And how would that same family of four do it if he works in downtown Ft. Lauderdale like me. Will she have to drive cross-county (have you seen the traffic on 595 lately?) My wife and daughter aren't going to drive down here from Boynton (or where ever) to meet me for a Wednesday night game. For heaven's sake, they don't do that now.

 

And in your hypothetical, does this family drive in two cars now to Pro Player and end up paying $18.00 in parking? The easy solution is that the "dad" goes with co-workers on weeknights, and the family enjoys a game on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. Geez, I guess this same dilema happens everyday in Cleveland, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, Phoenix, Atlanta, Denver, Minneapolis, Seattle, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Houston (all cities with downtown ballparks).

 

You can make excuses all you want, but that hypo makes no point! The problem is people down there don't support the team when they are winning, and the stadium should be built for convenience, but it is very hard to do in South Florida with the way it is layed out.

 

Pro Player is convenient but not a good place for baseball. So lets say you build a new ballpark next to the Pro, What do they do to help the area become a little bit more attractive (shops, restaurants, etc.)? that's just your own opinion based on nothing. It isn't an opinion when you have 13,000 avg. coming out to a game and your team is over .500. stop saying it's my opinion, what is your reason for the lack of support? the stadium is in the border of dade and broward, is not "in miami" as you want to say. it exactly in carol city, no closer to downtown miami than it is downtown ft. lauderdale.

I never said the Pro was in Miami, i said it was in dade county. Would you be against a ballpark in say downtown hollywood or US27/Turnpike?

I never said the Pro was in Miami, i said it was in dade county. Would you be against a ballpark in say downtown hollywood or US27/Turnpike?

I actually think the area around the PRO will be great for another stadaium.You always have to consider traffic where ever you build it since baseball Games are play during weekdays and around rush hour.

I actually like the suggestion made by someone to build it by Okeechobe Rd. which will be PERFECT FOR ME .

I actually think the area around the PRO will be great for another stadaium.You always have to consider traffic where ever you build it since baseball Games are play during weekdays and around rush hour.

I actually like the suggestion made by someone to build it by Okeechobe Rd. which will be PERFECT FOR ME .