Tampa is actually part of South Florida (very weird), so technically, South Florida has 2 teams.

So your a frontrunner then

People here follow 2 teams...an NL team (Marlins) and an AL team (Devil Rays, Rangers, Twins, or Red Sucks) They all have local connections.

So your a frontrunner then

People here follow 2 teams...an NL team (Marlins) and an AL team (Devil Rays, Rangers, Twins, or Red Sucks) They all have local connections.

Orisha, i would prefer the site next to the Pro, with some local development, it can be good, but Downtown Miami cannot be a good site. It would be nice for another site to be available in Dade (US27 and Turnpike), but just not downtown.

 

Complain to your politicians about the traffic. They should have planned more.

it is not complainning to our politicians. maybe people from broward should get jobs in broward so they don't have to travel south in the mornings and north in the afternoons, that what causes the traffic. That's the problem, you don't want to tell it like it is. The road system down there needs to be improved for everyone! If the broward people don't get jobs in dade and vice versa, the economy would stop. They spend extra money in gas, food, etc. that pay many things in both counties.

 

They must improve the road system, Miami has too many people for it's roads. The average driver spends 2 1/2 hours a day in the car in Miami/Ft. LAuderdale. The place I live, Ft. Myers/Naples was just voted the 5th most drivable city, why you may ask, because you will find 4 lane roads everywhere, middle of city and middle of nowhere. It's all in the planning. i've been there. it also helps that it is no men's land.

Orisha, i would prefer the site next to the Pro, with some local development, it can be good, but Downtown Miami cannot be a good site. It would be nice for another site to be available in Dade (US27 and Turnpike), but just not downtown.

 

Complain to your politicians about the traffic. They should have planned more.

it is not complainning to our politicians. maybe people from broward should get jobs in broward so they don't have to travel south in the mornings and north in the afternoons, that what causes the traffic. That's the problem, you don't want to tell it like it is. The road system down there needs to be improved for everyone! If the broward people don't get jobs in dade and vice versa, the economy would stop. They spend extra money in gas, food, etc. that pay many things in both counties.

 

They must improve the road system, Miami has too many people for it's roads. The average driver spends 2 1/2 hours a day in the car in Miami/Ft. LAuderdale. The place I live, Ft. Myers/Naples was just voted the 5th most drivable city, why you may ask, because you will find 4 lane roads everywhere, middle of city and middle of nowhere. It's all in the planning. i've been there. it also helps that it is no men's land.

true, but we have it in case we get a population boom ala Pembroke Pines or weston. 2nd largest city int he state in land size is Cape Coral and it can be filled within 25 years if we let it continue growing.

true, but we have it in case we get a population boom ala Pembroke Pines or weston. 2nd largest city int he state in land size is Cape Coral and it can be filled within 25 years if we let it continue growing.

yeah, but we have 4 lane roads here everywhere. we have (let me count) like 5 or 6 expressways. it's just that the place is packed.

yeah, but we have 4 lane roads here everywhere. we have (let me count) like 5 or 6 expressways. it's just that the place is packed.

This has turned into a 2 person arguement with a few others injecting comments every now and then

This has turned into a 2 person arguement with a few others injecting comments every now and then

I just want a new ballpark, and I want the people in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach to come out to see them. I just don't see it going too well in Downtown Miami. The Miami River site is near Little Havana and new Downtown development, but how will people from Broward, Palm Beach, etc. get there easily and get back home? How are you going to convince that downtown worker to get their families in to join them at the ballpark? Those are my questions. One thing, if they move downtown, the games will have to start at 7:40 pm local time like in Pheonix to help people get there.

I just want a new ballpark, and I want the people in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach to come out to see them. I just don't see it going too well in Downtown Miami. The Miami River site is near Little Havana and new Downtown development, but how will people from Broward, Palm Beach, etc. get there easily and get back home? How are you going to convince that downtown worker to get their families in to join them at the ballpark? Those are my questions. One thing, if they move downtown, the games will have to start at 7:40 pm local time like in Pheonix to help people get there.

I just want a new ballpark, and I want the people in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach to come out to see them. I just don't see it going too well in Downtown Miami. The Miami River site is near Little Havana and new Downtown development, but how will people from Broward, Palm Beach, etc. get there easily and get back home? How are you going to convince that downtown worker to get their families in to join them at the ballpark? Those are my questions. One thing, if they move downtown, the games will have to start at 7:40 pm local time like in Pheonix to help people get there.

it's a lot easier for the people in wp and broward to get to downtown dade at that time than vice versa. it is a long drive, but it is a drive at 80 mph with no traffic.

I just want a new ballpark, and I want the people in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach to come out to see them. I just don't see it going too well in Downtown Miami. The Miami River site is near Little Havana and new Downtown development, but how will people from Broward, Palm Beach, etc. get there easily and get back home? How are you going to convince that downtown worker to get their families in to join them at the ballpark? Those are my questions. One thing, if they move downtown, the games will have to start at 7:40 pm local time like in Pheonix to help people get there.

it's a lot easier for the people in wp and broward to get to downtown dade at that time than vice versa. it is a long drive, but it is a drive at 80 mph with no traffic.

Orisha, i-95 has traffic no matter which directiona nd what time of day. it's just deadlock vs. flow. BTW, driving to dade in broward is in the flow of traffic since you would be going away from ft. lauderdale. you keep thinking of dade county only and still haven't answered my question. read it again and answer it.

Orisha, i-95 has traffic no matter which directiona nd what time of day. it's just deadlock vs. flow. BTW, driving to dade in broward is in the flow of traffic since you would be going away from ft. lauderdale. you keep thinking of dade county only and still haven't answered my question. read it again and answer it.

the same way you would do in ft. lauderdale.

the same way you would do in ft. lauderdale.

traffic is not as big an issue for stadiums in miami as it would be in ft. lauderdale, believe it or not. the reason is metrorail. every year when the heat and panthers played in miami arean, which was literally right next to a metrorail station, they sold out all the time even when they stunk. people didnt need to drive there. it was amazing to see the crowds pouring out of the trains coming every 5 minutes, it makes a huge difference.

I know when I went to school at UM I used to take the metrorail to Panthers games at the old arena all the time. The surrounding area is pretty much a dump, but the Rail dropped you off right across the street, so no big deal. Perfect.

 

The Orange Bowl is in the middle of Miami and (when they want to go), they have no problem filling that place up.

 

My personal choice would be Fort Lauderdale but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I like where it is.

traffic is not as big an issue for stadiums in miami as it would be in ft. lauderdale, believe it or not. the reason is metrorail. every year when the heat and panthers played in miami arean, which was literally right next to a metrorail station, they sold out all the time even when they stunk. people didnt need to drive there. it was amazing to see the crowds pouring out of the trains coming every 5 minutes, it makes a huge difference.

I know when I went to school at UM I used to take the metrorail to Panthers games at the old arena all the time. The surrounding area is pretty much a dump, but the Rail dropped you off right across the street, so no big deal. Perfect.

 

The Orange Bowl is in the middle of Miami and (when they want to go), they have no problem filling that place up.

 

My personal choice would be Fort Lauderdale but I don't have a strong opinion either way. I like where it is.

Yeah, us Dade people are lazy, I guess...but they seem to get over to Office Depot Center to see the lousy Panthers play... :confused

Are you nuts? The vast majority of the people at the Office are Broward and Palm Beach residents.

Yeah, us Dade people are lazy, I guess...but they seem to get over to Office Depot Center to see the lousy Panthers play... :confused

Are you nuts? The vast majority of the people at the Office are Broward and Palm Beach residents.

the same way you would do in ft. lauderdale.

in fort lauderdale, you see families with children going to the beach, museum of discovery and science, etc. I see no children or families going to Bayside at night.

the same way you would do in ft. lauderdale.

in fort lauderdale, you see families with children going to the beach, museum of discovery and science, etc. I see no children or families going to Bayside at night.