May 8, 200521 yr This is from Saturday's Las Vegas Review-Journal concerning a possible move to Las Vegas by the Marlins. It looks like they are setting aside 18.7 acres, of a developemental site, for a ballpark. Sorry if it's previously been posted. http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/200...s/26462723.html
May 8, 200521 yr how about the Las Vegas Golden Nuggets? or Las Vegas Circus Circuses lol 766354[/snapback] Las Vegas Roulette Wheel
May 8, 200521 yr Commentary: Marlins moving to Vegas? Don't bet on it By Joe Capozzi Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Sunday, May 08, 2005 LAS VEGAS ? On a cool December morning, three Florida Marlins officials stepped out of a taxi on Las Vegas Boulevard across from the mock Statue of Liberty at New York New York and a replica Eiffel Tower. Strolling under the head of comedian Carrot Top, whose blinking image leaped from a Jumbotron marquee, they entered the MGM Grand. Making their way through a ringing maze of slot machines, they passed blackjack tables, roulette wheels and two lions inside a glass den until they found casino executive Alan Feldman's office. There, in a quiet second-floor refuge, they talked baseball ? specifically, the odds of bringing the Marlins or any other Major League Baseball team to Las Vegas. More than five months after that visit, the prospect of the Marlins playing in Las Vegas is a long shot ? even in light of the Florida Legislature's failure Friday to provide the final chunk of money for a new ballpark in Miami. And if the Marlins' visit had a purpose, the team officials probably didn't like what they heard. "If there was any interest on their part in using this as a negotiating issue, it probably got pretty well wiped out after their meeting with me," said Feldman, vice president of public affairs for MGM Mirage, the largest employer, landowner and taxpayer in Clark County, Nevada. "The discussion I had with them, which was very frank and very candid, was this: Anyone who wants to build a professional sports team is more than welcome in Las Vegas. We'd love to see it. But we will stand in the street and stop any semblance of tax support for a stadium. "In this market, companies like ours invest hundreds of millions of dollars a year in new attractions and new things to bring guests to town. The thought that our city would be put into the position of investing hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money to build an attraction to attract people is absurd. "Around here, you bring your own money to the poker game. We have the most vibrant tourism economy of any city in world, bar none. The presence of major league sports is not going make us or break us." Of course, a team could move to Las Vegas and build its own ballpark. But the earliest a stadium could be ready is 2010, when the city's population, currently 1.7 million, is projected to reach 3 million. If a team began play today, Las Vegas would be the smallest media market of any city in the majors. "There's not a day that goes by that I don't have a number of people talking about it," said Don Logan, general manager for the Las Vegas 51, the Class AAA affiliate of the Los Angeles Dodgers. "But the people here that really follow it and understand it know we're a ways away from having anything in place to accommodate a team.'' The Marlins have several Vegas connections. Team owner Jeffery Loria has known Logan for nearly 20 years Feldman is a longtime friend of Bruce Rubin, Loria's publicity consultant, who helped arrange the Vegas visit. "The Marlins' visit helped elevate the discussion on whether Las Vegas is ready for a major-league team," Feldman said. "But I don't think anyone's really believing that the Marlins are coming here. No one around here is walking around wearing Marlins shirts. To be honest we're rooting for the Marlins to do what they're doing, which is to find a home in South Florida and do well in South Florida. This is a franchise that's won two world championships in 11 years? Come on. You don't want to see that move. You don't want to see that happen. That's not good for baseball." :thumbup
May 9, 200521 yr I'll stick with Las Vegas Craps. "Let's Go Crap" would be a great chant 766356[/snapback] "Let's go Crap", "Let's go Crap"......................*walksouttoportapotty* :plain
May 9, 200521 yr Probably the best market available is probably Buffalo. the expansions they were hoping for went to Colorado, and FLor... err Miami. Dunn Tire Park is a baseball-only facility in Buffalo, New York. It is home to the Buffalo Bisons Triple-A baseball team. The stadium opened on April 14, 1988 as Pilot Field, with a sell-out crowd of 19,500 on hand. While Oriole Park at Camden Yards often is cited as the vanguard for the trend in American cities towards "retro"-styled, baseball-only stadiums located in downtown cores, the architectural firm that designed Camden Yards, HOK, actually cut its teeth on the design of Dunn Tire Park, which opened nearly four years prior to Camden Yards. At the time of the stadium's construction, Buffalo was hoping to secure either an expansion major-league baseball team or a relocated team. The Montreal Expos often were mentioned as a leading contender in the latter category. When completed, however, the stadium seated fewer than 20,000 people. While this was a large number of seats for a minor-league facility, it was dwarfed by many major-league parks. Thus, the design made provisions for future expansion that would have allowed the seating capacity to grow to nearly 40,000 by adding an upper deck above the existing mezzanine. But hopefully they'll get the Devil Rays. Linky
May 9, 200521 yr Probably the best market available is probably Buffalo. the expansions they were hoping for went to Colorado, and FLor... err Miami. Dunn Tire Park is a baseball-only facility in Buffalo, New York. It is home to the Buffalo Bisons Triple-A baseball team. The stadium opened on April 14, 1988 as Pilot Field, with a sell-out crowd of 19,500 on hand. While Oriole Park at Camden Yards often is cited as the vanguard for the trend in American cities towards "retro"-styled, baseball-only stadiums located in downtown cores, the architectural firm that designed Camden Yards, HOK, actually cut its teeth on the design of Dunn Tire Park, which opened nearly four years prior to Camden Yards. At the time of the stadium's construction, Buffalo was hoping to secure either an expansion major-league baseball team or a relocated team. The Montreal Expos often were mentioned as a leading contender in the latter category. When completed, however, the stadium seated fewer than 20,000 people. While this was a large number of seats for a minor-league facility, it was dwarfed by many major-league parks. Thus, the design made provisions for future expansion that would have allowed the seating capacity to grow to nearly 40,000 by adding an upper deck above the existing mezzanine. But hopefully they'll get the Devil Rays. Linky 767331[/snapback] :lol Tampa isn't going nowhere. Especially to Buffalo. Buffalo won't be big enough to support a team for another 12-16 years.
May 9, 200521 yr buffalo will never be big enough the smart place for professional sports upstate would be rochester ... slightly smaller city, but close enough to draw from both Buffalo, Syracuse and the Soutehrn Tier ... however, that area really is dying and would be a bad choice to put about anything I think Vegas will get a team at one point or another ...... i just hope it's not the marlins ... i have no attachment to miami, but I want to see them stay there and I want to see them in a new stadium my seahawks went through a similar deal and paul allen made the stadium issue pass as a condition of his buying the team ... too bad loria didn't bring that much clout if the state plays hardball and the option is either under wayne or not in florida, then I will reluctantly pull for not in florida
May 9, 200521 yr if the state plays hardball and the option is either under wayne or not in florida, then I will reluctantly pull for not in florida 767581[/snapback] We don't need state approval to build the stadium. The team just asked for 60M to complete the funding. Once they get the 30M they need the county and city have to approve it and then shovels could go in the ground.
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