Posted May 14, 200520 yr National League: MVP: Lyle Overbay Cy Young: Dontrelle Willis ROTY: Jason Ellison (I'm pretty sure Clint Barmes isn't eligible according to MLB rules) American League: MVP: Brian Roberts Cy Young: Jon Garland ROTY: Tadahito Iguchi
May 14, 200520 yr ROTY: Jason Ellison (I'm pretty sure Clint Barmes isn't eligible according to MLB rules) 772534[/snapback] He is eligible since he did not have enough games in his previous stints in the majors (according to MLB rules, and why he was named NL rookie of the month in April.) NL MVP has to be DLee so far. AL Cy Young is Garland at this point.
May 14, 200520 yr and I see a perfect opportunity for a plug: I need people to post at my blog.....I want to stay on the front page! Link I also agree with Jon Garland in the AL Cy Young lead for sure.
May 14, 200520 yr National League: MVP - Derrek Lee Cy Young - Dontrelle Willis ROTY - Clint Barmes American League: MVP - Brian Roberts Cy Young - Jon Garland ROTY - Gustavo Chacin
May 14, 200520 yr National League: MVP: Lyle Overbay Cy Young: Dontrelle Willis ROTY: Jason Ellison (I'm pretty sure Clint Barmes isn't eligible according to MLB rules) American League: MVP: Brian Roberts Cy Young: Rich Harden ROTY: Tadahito Iguchi 772534[/snapback] You can't be serious.
May 14, 200520 yr When a person has Lyle Overbay over Derrek Lee and/or Albert Pujols as NL MVP then you know it's a joke..
May 14, 200520 yr National League: MVP: Lyle Overbay Cy Young: Dontrelle Willis ROTY: Jason Ellison (I'm pretty sure Clint Barmes isn't eligible according to MLB rules) American League: MVP: Brian Roberts Cy Young: Rich Harden ROTY: Tadahito Iguchi 772534[/snapback] Harden as Cy Young? Have you missed Jon Garland?
May 14, 200520 yr When a person has Lyle Overbay over Derrek Lee and/or Albert Pujols as NL MVP then you know it's a joke.. 772622[/snapback] He'll probably come by and tell you Overbay is 3 "notches" higher than Lee/Pujols on some categories or something.
May 14, 200520 yr Author no doubt Lee is having a better year...but IMO no player on a team with a losing record should ever win MVP...so as long as the Cubs are below .500, Derek Lee is not the MVP IMO
May 14, 200520 yr Author ROTY: Jason Ellison (I'm pretty sure Clint Barmes isn't eligible according to MLB rules) 772534[/snapback] He is eligible since he did not have enough games in his previous stints in the majors (according to MLB rules, and why he was named NL rookie of the month in April.) 772556[/snapback] the rule is you must not have spent more than 45 days on any major league roster...he was in the bigs 35 days last year and 21 the year before...same reason why Lew Ford wasn't eligible last year
May 14, 200520 yr no doubt Lee is having a better year...but IMO no player on a team with a losing record should ever win MVP...so as long as the Cubs are below .500, Derek Lee is not the MVP IMO 772656[/snapback] Uh...the Brewers are 2 games better than the Cubs, so you'll take Overbay over Lee? Idiot.
May 14, 200520 yr ROTY: Jason Ellison (I'm pretty sure Clint Barmes isn't eligible according to MLB rules) 772534[/snapback] He is eligible since he did not have enough games in his previous stints in the majors (according to MLB rules, and why he was named NL rookie of the month in April.) 772556[/snapback] the rule is you must not have spent more than 45 days on any major league roster...he was in the bigs 35 days last year and 21 the year before...same reason why Lew Ford wasn't eligible last year 772658[/snapback] Those days are only during the period of 25-man rosters, not 40-man rosters.
May 14, 200520 yr National League: MVP - Derrek Lee Cy Young - Dontrelle Willis ROTY - Clint Barmes American League: MVP - Brian Roberts Cy Young - Jon Garland ROTY - Gustavo Chacin 772582[/snapback] This sounds about accurate to date.
May 16, 200520 yr ROTY: Jason Ellison (I'm pretty sure Clint Barmes isn't eligible according to MLB rules) 772534[/snapback] He is eligible since he did not have enough games in his previous stints in the majors (according to MLB rules, and why he was named NL rookie of the month in April.) 772556[/snapback] the rule is you must not have spent more than 45 days on any major league roster...he was in the bigs 35 days last year and 21 the year before...same reason why Lew Ford wasn't eligible last year 772658[/snapback] Except they only count the days prior to a September call-up. September call-ups do not apply toward eligibility rules. All 21 days in 2003 were as a September call-up. ***after further review...Ford spent 47 days on the active roster for the Twins in 2003 (May 29 through July 14, when he was disabled.) That is why he was not eligible.
May 16, 200520 yr National League: MVP: Derrek Lee Cy Young: Dontrelle Willis ROTY: Clint Barmes American League: MVP: Brian Roberts Cy Young: Jon Garland ROTY: Robinson Cano (Have to get a Yankee in here)
May 16, 200520 yr how about Tad Iguchi for ROY? dude is playin pretty well... if you consider him a rook
May 16, 200520 yr National League: MVP - Derrek Lee Cy Young - Dontrelle Willis ROTY - Clint Barmes American League: MVP - Brian Roberts Cy Young - Jon Garland ROTY - Gustavo Chacin 772582[/snapback] Change the AL RotY to Iguchi and I'm with you.
May 20, 200520 yr how about Tad Iguchi for ROY? dude is playin pretty well... if you consider him a rook 774399[/snapback] i hate to quote george steinbrenner on anything, but he made a good point a while back on why players from the japanese professional league should be considered rookies. the ROY award is named for jackie robinson, who of course came into MLB from the Negro League, which was a professional baseball league with a high level of play. Therefore, why shouldn't modern-day players also coming from a professional baseball league be eligible for the same? Furthermore, counting these players as rookies acknowledges that, globally, MLB's level of play is in a class by itself. the Japanese League is a quality league but I can tell you from watching that the level of play is not up to MLB's. the pitches are generally much slower, and there are much fewer guys hitting for power. Hideki Matsui was such a prolific power hitter in Japan that he was nicknamed 'Godzilla' but where does he rank among major league hitters? And remember Orestes Destrade? So, coming from the Japanese League to MLB is a significant jump and so the players who can make that jump deserve credit for it, by being eligible for the ROY award.
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