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YES! I love Roy Jones...He's great! Maybe he can come up to the next level AGAIN and do awesome...

That is the higest level but he said he did to prove his critics wrong and that he is likely to go back to the light heavyweight division again. He did say if the right offer presented he could stay in the heavyweight division.

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The fight was crap, so was Oqendo who is a hyped up prospect.

 

The chick fight and Wright were good fight though.

 

Also to those did not know, Jones has said that he doesn't know if he will continue to fight as a heavy.

 

Jones will get clobbered by the top heavy's.

 

Byrd = Jones with a bigger punch

 

Wlad = Would blow out Jones

 

Lewis = Duh!

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Their not alike because he's a lefty that's brilliant. Styles make fight Lowell.

 

Byrd is not an elite heavyweight! Victories against Tua, Holyfield, Vitali K, and Maurice Harris (who gave Fres a run for his money yesterday) and the IBF Champion. His only lossed came to Wlad and the then highly regarded Ike Ibeabuchi who many said who be the next Riddick Bowe were his only losses.

 

Yea he's not an elite heavyweight. You know little about boxing.

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Jones is fast and hits hard unlike Byrd who has lots of stamina, and could box you all night long

If you watched the PPV last night, they said over and over again including Bob Foster who was just like Jones.

 

"The guy can be 10 and 10 with two knockouts but still can easily knock out a Middleweight"

 

Byrd would still overpower Jones. Byrd who has a much supperior chin than Ruiz would easily survive Jones. Jones punches rarely fased Ruiz. Jones was just the supperior fighter.

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That's what Bob Foster supporter's said when he moved up in class.

 

Also if you watched the Wood's Jones fight, you saw when Jones was in their with the bigger man who got him into the corner. Jones had problems.

 

Multiple that result by 50 when he goes up against a better, bigger, and stonger heavyweight.

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Well just has being in trouble in the corner many times but mainly because he fools around with them.

Yea I'd like to see him fool around with a Heavyweight. Were not talking about no name lightweights here. Were talking about big over powering Heavyweights.

 

Also last night Jones wasn't fooling around with Ruiz. The only reason he beat Ruiz is because Ruiz has alway's been a horrible fighter. This was a miss match, the only way Ruiz was going to win was by Knockout. It didn't happen and Jones won.

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The fight was crap, so was Oqendo who is a hyped up prospect.

 

The chick fight and Wright were good fight though.

 

Also to those did not know, Jones has said that he doesn't know if he will continue to fight as a heavy.

 

Jones will get clobbered by the top heavy's.

 

Byrd = Jones with a bigger punch

 

Wlad = Would blow out Jones

 

Lewis = Duh!

I will agree the Oquendo fight was not the cleanest but it was a good fight. There was a lot of action and yes I will also agree Oquendo is just a hyped prospect and beating a no heart fighter in Maurice Harris does nothing for me. However...

 

How can you say that Roy would be clobbered by Chris Byrd or either Klitschko?

 

Byrd is not Roy with a bigger punch, lets get that straight right away to begin with! The only way you are making this comparison is because both have an awkward style and are undersized heavyweights. Although he is fast and quick, Byrd is not nearly as fast or quick as Roy Jones Jr. He is also a southpaw, which is a main reason his style is awkward. Roy is more flashy and baits his opponents with unthinkable moves, defenses and actions to make his style awkward. He also out thinks his opponents more than anyone else I can think of, which is a great help to him. Byrd is a tough fighter but he does not have an extreme amount of size and I do not know how you can say he would clobber Roy Jones, a man who just beat a heavyweight champion with ease despite giving up over 30lbs. He also did not have a mark on his face after the fight, showing what an easy time he had with a top 5 heavyweight. The man has never truely lost a professional fight and yet you say he will get clobbered.

 

As far as the Klitschkos, come on. What makes you so sure on them? Fighting the 43-year-old Ray Mercers of the world do nothing for me. Sure they have size, skill and power but do they really have any heart or a good chin? The only note worthy person either of them have fought has been Chris Byrd and when he tested Vitali, Vitali quit. He couldn't take it and now he is trying to fight Lennox Lewis, where he will have his head handed to him. Now I know Byrd lost to Wlad but anybody who knows about boxing knows that was bull! The fight was in Wlad's home country of Russia and he was ahead of Wlad early on and then Byrd (like many fighters who have fought the brothers in Russia) started complaining of burning in his eyes and not being able to see well, also saying that the burning did not come from a punch but rather an illegal substance put on the gloves. Also did you see his face after the Mercer fight? It was all beaten and bruised, by an over the hill Ray Mercer! Please, brag about him when he does something noteworthy, like beating a good fighter under the age of 40.

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That's what Bob Foster supporter's said when he moved up in class.

 

Also if you watched the Wood's Jones fight, you saw when Jones was in their with the bigger man who got him into the corner. Jones had problems.

 

Multiple that result by 50 when he goes up against a better, bigger, and stonger heavyweight.

Yeah and Bob Foster also said that Roy wouldn't be able to make a dent in Ruiz and he would be knocked out. He was almost correct there...........no! He is just bitter because he could not do what Roy did. He was very good, but he is not nearly as good as Roy Jones. I watched the Woods fight and it was a clear domination to me! Jones was doing chicken moves in the ring and mocking Woods, no danger there. The fight was ended early as well. If you ever watch Roy people will say that he hates being up against the ropes and he has problems there. Well if you know anything about him then you will know that this is not even close to being fully true. When up against the ropes Roy throws his best and most accurate body shots, many of which hurt the bigger Ruiz in this past fight. He senses danger so he uses his best punches, often throwing many hard flurries of combinations to get out of the ropes, making him very live, game and dangerous. You are just saying what the experts said. They said Ruiz would throw him against the ropes and end the fight, knock him out. Well Ruiz's face tells the story, Jones can adjust from anywhere. Just give the man his credit and get a clue!

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Also last night Jones wasn't fooling around with Ruiz. The only reason he beat Ruiz is because Ruiz has alway's been a horrible fighter. This was a miss match, the only way Ruiz was going to win was by Knockout. It didn't happen and Jones won.

Man shut up and give Roy his credit! Damn!

 

Ruiz has always been a horrible fighter? You are insane! Yes he got knocked out by Tua but that was several years ago. He put Evander on the canvas. That is something that Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson both could not do. He went three hard fights with Evander, that is something that a horrible fighter could not do. Jones not only won, but he won so convincgly that it was not even funny. The only reason he beat Ruiz is because Ruiz has always been a horrible fighter? HAHAHA GET A CLUE! He beat him because he has skill, speed, quickness, power, fought a great fight and out thought him as well. But I guess none of that counts now does it?

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i havent watched boxing in seemingly forever now.

 

 

 

i used to watch all the fights back when chavez was fighting, my best friend's dad would order all those fights so I would go over there and watch and be one of only two people cheering against Chavez. (My best friend being the other)

 

when he finally lost we were happy, everyone else was deeply saddened.

 

 

 

frankly there is nobody truly interesting fighting these days......especially in the heavyweight divisions.

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Let's remember the Judges were very generous in giving Ruiz a draw in the third fight. Most at ringside had Holyfield winning also Ruiz knocked down Holyfield. He did not knock him out and yes their is a diffrence.

I would not say very generous, very generous would be giving Evander a draw in the first Lewis fight. And as far as knocking him down, that is something that both Lennox and Tyson could not do in four combined fights. Evidently knocking him down is not easy, yet Ruiz did it so it must take some punching ability to do.

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frankly there is nobody truly interesting fighting these days......especially in the heavyweight divisions.

Oh no? Go watch Zab Judah, Miguel Barrera, Luis Perez, Eric Morel, Erik Morales, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Johnny Tapia, Kosta Tszyu, Ricardo Mayorga, Jose Luis Castillo, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Vernon Forrest, Winy Wright, William Joppey, Bernard Hopkins, Felix Trinidad (if he un-retires), Eric Lucas

 

Heavyweights: Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, either Klitschko brother, Chris Byrd, Lennox Lewis, Roy Jones Jr. (if he stays), Kirk Johnson

 

Those are all exciting big name fighters off the top of my head.

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Wlad dominated Chris Byrd and Jameel "Prison time" Mcline. At the time of the fight Jameel was a top 5 heavyweight. That fight was a huge fight, that's why HBO put that as the main event over an anticipated Floyd Mayweather re-match.

 

Wlad outboxed kept him back and then finished him. If you remember Jameel has gone up with big puncher's granted Michael Grant never got the chance to fight power wise. Wlad effected him and then a huge prospect was put down.

 

Also I really don't know why so many people shoot down Wlad and Vitali. Unlike most fighter's they are not thugs or wanna be rapper's. That is the kind of crap that ruins boxing the Roy Jones of the world.

 

So Marlinman please tell me why knocking out the biggest prospect in the division next to him is nothing special.

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