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Here is mine:

 

First Team Starters:

 

C: Johnny Bench

1B: Lou Gehrig

2B: Rogers Hornsby

SS: Honus Wagner

3B: Mike Schmidt

RF: Babe Ruth

CF: Ty Cobb

LF: Ted Williams

 

Second Team Starters:

 

C: Mike Piazza

1B: Jimmie Foxx

2B: Nap Lajoie

SS: Arky Vaughan

3B: Pie Traynor

RF: Hank Aaron

CF: Willie Mays

LF: Barry Bonds

 

DH's: Mark McGwire and Mickey Mantle

 

Starting First Team Rotation:

 

1: Cy Young

2: Walter Johnson

3: Christy Mathewson

4: Lefty Grove

5: Sandy Koufax

 

Second Team Starters:

 

1: Warren Spahn

2: Grover Cleveland Alexander

3: Eddie Plank

4: Greg Maddux

5: Randy Johnson

 

Closer: Dennis Eckersley

Wheres Dontrelle Willis? :rolleyes:

 

I agree with most of those starters...

No A-Rod? No Pudge?

 

The ROCKET maybe? Nolan Ryan!?

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No A-Rod? No Pudge?

 

The ROCKET maybe? Nolan Ryan!?

A-Rod hasn't been around long enough, but if he continues his career, he will certainly pass Wagner to be the best shortstop of all time.

 

I had a hard time deciding between Yogi Berra, Ivan Rodriguez, and Mike Piazza.

 

I also considered Clemens, but i feel that I'd rather have Randy at his peak than The Rocket.

 

Nolan Ryan didn't make it because his win percentage isn't that far over .500. (Lifetime record: 324-292). He's not better than the other starters I put on my team, except for possibly R.J.

A-Rod hasn't been around long enough, but if he continues his career, he will certainly pass Wagner to be the best shortstop of all time.

 

I had a hard time deciding between Yogi Berra, Ivan Rodriguez, and Mike Piazza.

 

I also considered Clemens, but i feel that I'd rather have Randy at his peak than The Rocket.

 

Nolan Ryan didn't make it because his win percentage isn't that far over .500. (Lifetime record: 324-292). He's not better than the other starters I put on my team, except for possibly R.J.

Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens could both be argued as the best pitchers of all time, and they don't even crack your top 10? That's a joke.

 

And I would take Pudge in his prime over Piazza in his prime anyday.

Josh Gibson was better than both Piazza and Pudge.

starters

ss: Ernie Banks

2b: Rogers Hornsby

3b: Mike Schmidt

1st: Lou Gehrig

lf: Ted Williams

Cf: Willie Mays

Rf: Joe Dimaggio (moved him to rf)

C: Josh Gibson (going with you das, he's one of the best ever to play the game)

 

starting pitchers

1. Cy Young

2. Bob Gibson

3. Satchel Paige

4. Walter Johnson

5. Christy Matthewson

 

closer: Lee Smith

 

DH. the Babe, almost put him in the rotation

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Josh Gibson never played in the majors. I bet he would have been good if he did, but his statistics are incomplete as far as his career. I really can't include him. Piazza is just as good, if not better than Pudge. Nolan Ryan, although I like him, is NOT in the Top 10 pitchers of all time. He's in the top 20, though. Clemens is better than he was.

 

Sorry, but there is no way you can put Joe-D ahead of The Babe. It's not even close. Ruth could hit for contact AND power. In 1927, he hit .356 with 60 home runs. I think that's miles above DiMaggio's best season. Bob Gibson should never be ahead of The Big Train, who won over 400 games. I like Satchel Paige as well, but like Josh Gibson, he was almost 40 when he was signed by Bill Veeck. But he certainly COULD be the best pitcher ever, so I really won't argue against that.

 

Oh, and Ernie Banks is no Honus Wagner.

Here we go.

 

 

1st team.

 

C- Johnny Bench

1b- Lou Gehrig

2b-Rogers Hornsby

SS-Honus Wagner

3B-Mike Schmidt

LF-Ted Williams

CF-Oscar Charleston

RF-Babe Ruth

 

Starting Rotation

 

Lefty Grove

Walter Johnson

Satchiel Paige

Christy Mathewson

Roger Clemens

 

Closer: Dennis Eckersley

 

Second Team:

 

C: Yogi Berra

1b: Mark McGwire

2b: Joe Morgan

SS: Cal Ripken

3b: Eddie Mathews

Lf: Barry Bonds

Cf: Willie Mays

Rf: Henry Aaron

 

Starters:

 

Cy Young

Warren Spahn

Pete Alexander

Bob Gibson

Sandy Koufax

 

Closer:

 

Goose Gossage

 

Third Team:

 

C: Josh Gibson

1b: Jimmie Foxx

2b: Jackie Robinson

SS: Arky Vaughn

3b: George Brett

Lf: Stan Musial

CF: Ty Cobb

RF: Frank Robinson

 

Starters:

 

Tom Seaver

Greg Maddux

Steve Carlton

Carl Hubbell

Kid Nichols

 

Closer

 

John Smoltz

 

 

 

Debate away.

Josh Gibson never played in the majors. I bet he would have been good if he did, but his statistics are incomplete as far as his career. I really can't include him. Piazza is just as good, if not better than Pudge. Nolan Ryan, although I like him, is NOT in the Top 10 pitchers of all time. He's in the top 20, though. Clemens is better than he was.

 

Sorry, but there is no way you can put Joe-D ahead of The Babe. It's not even close. Ruth could hit for contact AND power. In 1927, he hit .356 with 60 home runs. I think that's miles above DiMaggio's best season. Bob Gibson should never be ahead of The Big Train, who won over 400 games. I like Satchel Paige as well, but like Josh Gibson, he was almost 40 when he was signed by Bill Veeck. But he certainly COULD be the best pitcher ever, so I really won't argue against that.

 

Oh, and Ernie Banks is no Honus Wagner.

didnt i put ruth at the dh spot, i couldnt leave joe d off the list. Gibson never did play in the bigs, but he was still one of the greatest, it wasnt his fault he didnt play in the bigs, Satch was around 40 when he got into the Bigs and pitched well into his 50's, if he was able to do that, how do you think he wouldve performed in the bigs in his prime? it wasnt his fault either he didnt get the chance in his prime. because they were negro league stars, doesnt mean they dont deserve to be on this list. this is all-time baseball team, not all-time MLB team. if that was the case than they wouldnt be in the H.O.F. piazza is not as good as Roderiguez, he is better with the bat but overall i would take Roderiguez. Bob Gibson is one of my favorite old school pitcher, i love watching his highlights and the way he talks about pitching ,i couldnt leave him off, there are a lot of people you could include in this list.

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I agree with all of Das Texan's pitchers.

 

However....Oscar Charleston over Ty Cobb AND Willie Mays????

That's like a crime against humanity. Anyway...

 

Nice choice with Kid Nichols, I forget him sometimes.

 

Joe Morgan is NOT better than Nap Lajoie AND Jackie Robinson. I admit that he is great, but not better than those two.

 

Ty Cobb doesn't deserve to be 3rd team. He is the greatest hitter of all time. He could get three hits in a game, even when he was hurt. I could argue that for hours.

 

In addition, I believe that Willie Mays is the best overall player of all time. He has 3,000+ hits, 660 homers, a great glove, and lots of stolen bases. There was nothing he couldn't do incredibly well.

Tell me what you know about Oscar Charleston?

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I know that he was good, and that he was an excellent hitter, but again, I would prefer to keep this primarily to MLB players. I'm not discriminating, but it's hard to judge how good players are (except Paige and J.Gibson) in a totally different league.

I know that he was good, and that he was an excellent hitter, but again, I would prefer to keep this primarily to MLB players. I'm not discriminating, but it's hard to judge how good players are (except Paige and J.Gibson) in a totally different league.

i know they were in different leagues, but i would argue a lot Negro leauge players were just as good as the big leaguers, its just that they didnt get the chance. i mean look at all the guys that wouldve been Negro Leaugers if it werent for Branch Ricky and Jackie Robinson... Willie Mays, Frank Robinson, Jackie Robinson (i know he was a negro leaguer), Willie McCovey, Bob Gibson, Rod Carew, Roberto Clemente, and of course others im forgetting

listening to stories of oscar and you will realize how great he was.

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i know they were in different leagues, but i would argue a lot Negro leauge players were just as good as the big leaguers, its just that they didnt get the chance. i mean look at all the guys that wouldve been Negro Leaugers if it werent for Branch Ricky and Jackie Robinson... Willie Mays, Frank Robinson, Jackie Robinson (i know he was a negro leaguer), Willie McCovey, Bob Gibson, Rod Carew, Roberto Clemente, and of course others im forgetting

Admin Doby, Don Newcombe, Joe Black, Juan Marichal, and Hank Aaron.

Ramp's top 10 pitchers ever...

 

Walter Johnson

Cy Young

Lefty Grove

Warren Spahn

Pete Alexander

Christy Mathewson

Tom Seaver

Bob Gibson

Sandy Koufax

Kid Nichols

 

**i dont hav Clemens or Ryan in my top 10, i must be crazy :rolleyes: **

I have yet to see Rickey Henderson which is a shame, I'll post my list later

Only because Rickey is not better overall than the 3 I mentioned.

 

He is top 5 easily. Possibly 4.

here is my all time team

 

1st team.

 

C- Yogi Berra

1b- Lou Gehrig

2b-Rogers Hornsby

SS-Honus Wagner

3B-Mike Schmidt

LF-Ted Williams

CF-Willie Mays

RF-Babe Ruth

 

Starting Rotation

 

Walter Johnson

Cy Young

Lefty Grove

Warren Spahn

Pete Alexander

 

Closer: Dennis Eckersley

 

Second Team:

 

C: Johnny Bench

1b: Jimmie Fox

2b: Eddie Collins

SS: Arky Vaughan

3b: George Brett

Lf: Barry Bonds

Cf: Mickey Mantle

Rf: Henry Aaron

 

Starters:

 

Christy Mathewson

Tom Seaver

Bob Gibson

Sandy Koufax

Kid Nichols

 

Closer:

 

Lee Smith

 

Third Team:

 

C: Roy Campanella

1b: Mark McGwire

2b: Joe Morgan

SS: Ernie Banks

3b: Wade Boggs

Lf: Rickey Henderson

CF: Tris Speaker

RF: Frank Robinson

 

Starters:

 

Roger Clemens

Bob Feller

Steve Carlton

Robin Robers

3 Finger Brown

 

Closer

 

Goose Gossage

 

**there ya have it**

I have yet to see Rickey Henderson which is a shame, I'll post my list later

i have him :D

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Why is Ty Cobb getting left out? And Joe Morgan can't hold a candle to Rogers Hornsby. Morgan is maybe the 4th best second baseman.

Why is Ty Cobb getting left out? And Joe Morgan can't hold a candle to Rogers Hornsby. Morgan is maybe the 4th best second baseman.

opinion.

 

not fact.

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opinion.

 

not fact.

Career Stats

 

 

Average Hits Home Runs RBI's

Joe Morgan: .271 2517 268 1133

Rogers Hornsby: .359 2930 301 1584

 

 

:w00t :w00t :w00t :w00t :w00t :w00t

 

And that's just the beginning.

 

Most people agree that Hornsby is the greatest right handed hitter ever to play the game.

fine then...

 

*switches morgan and horsnby*

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