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Frank Thomas

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When I was growing up the Big Hurt was my favorite player, I just feel kind of bad that big Frank wasn't able to be a bigger part of the Sox's WS run. Many people (not me) consider him a fringe hall of famer, and these people usually try and make the case that he is a "fringe" HOF'er because he never won a World Series, well even though he didn't really do much of any in 2005, will this WS put him over the top or will people still not consider him a "true champion" because he didn't play in the playoffs?

 

I hope what I just typed made sense, lol...

 

Discuss.

i always liked Frank. it didn't sink in to me that he was getting a Ring until i saw him on the field celebrating after the game. i think he's a HOFer given his career numbers and spending a decade being the best offensive first basemen in the AL (possibly the majors).

 

but given the similarity of the numbers, if Thomas is a HOFer, than Bagwell is too. :o

i always liked Frank. it didn't sink in to me that he was getting a Ring until i saw him on the field celebrating after the game. i think he's a HOFer given his career numbers and spending a decade being the best offensive first basemen in the AL (possibly the majors).

 

but given the similarity of the numbers, if Thomas is a HOFer, than Bagwell is too. :o

 

 

And they both should be.

Never liked Frank much, especially now that he's a DH. His defense was always atrocious (makes David Ortiz look good) and considering he hasn't done much in the past few years I'd vote in Palmeiro before the Big hurt

The Big Hurt's situation really parallels, imo, Drew Bledsoe on the Patriots when Tom Brady led them to a Super Bowl win over the Rams.

 

Just akward.

I love Frank. :thumbup

 

I'd elaborate, but I'm using a pay-by-the-minute computer (still no power at home). So... gotta go. :p

I love Frank. :thumbup

 

I'd elaborate, but I'm using a pay-by-the-minute computer (still no power at home). So... gotta go. :p

 

 

and you wasted your money on that comment?

 

 

:plain

 

 

and no im not elaborating

I love Frank. :thumbup

 

I'd elaborate, but I'm using a pay-by-the-minute computer (still no power at home). So... gotta go. :p

 

 

and you wasted your money on that comment?

 

 

:plain

 

 

and no im not elaborating

Bite me. :mischief

I think what helped him more than winning a World Series was coming back this year (albeit temporarily) and still putting up monster power numbers in this age of drastic decline (12 homers in 100 AB's is pretty darn good), so it's safe to say that his best years were done drug free.

 

Then when you consider that his numbers are very similar to either current Hall of Famers (Snider and McCovey jump to mind) or probable future Hall of Famers like Bagwell, and now that he has a ring, he's probably helped himself out a lot.

 

Also, he does have one thing going for him that is very important, he won 2 MVP awards, and from '91-'03, he was an elite player...and in the early '90's he was probably the most feared right handed hitter in baseball. He'd get my vote. A life-time batting average of .307 and 448 career home-runs is pretty solid.

Frank Thomas, Career
Year	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	K	AVG	OBP	SLG
1990	60	191	39	63	11	3	7	31	44	54	330	454	529
1991	158	559	104	178	31	2	32	109	138	112	318	453	553
1992	160	573	108	185	46	2	24	115	122	88	323	439	536
1993	153	549	106	174	36	0	41	128	112	54	317	426	607
1994	113	399	106	141	34	1	38	101	109	61	353	487	729
1995	145	493	102	152	27	0	40	111	136	74	308	454	606
1996	141	527	110	184	26	0	40	134	109	70	349	459	626
1997	146	530	110	184	35	0	35	125	109	69	347	456	611
1998	160	585	109	155	35	2	29	109	110	93	265	381	480
1999	135	486	74	148	36	0	15	77	87	66	305	414	471
2000	159	582	115	191	44	0	43	143	112	94	328	436	625
2001	20	68	8	15	3	0	4	10	10	12	221	316	441
2002	148	523	77	132	29	1	28	92	88	115	252	361	472
2003	153	546	87	146	35	0	42	105	100	115	267	390	562
2004	74	240	53	65	16	0	18	49	64	57	271	434	563
2005	34	105	19	23	3	0	12	26	16	31	219	315	590
Career	1959	6956	1327	2136	447	11	448	1465	1466	1165	307	427	568
Average	162	687	131	210	44	1	44	145	145	115	307	427	568

pretty sure from 91-97 he was the most dominant firstbasemen in the game...and again in 99 and 00. even in his decline, he's still well above most young good firstbasemen/DHs.

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