Posted August 26, 200321 yr a while ago, everyone was saying Dontrelle was the run away winner... i say, not anymore.... but if he gets to 14 or 15 wins and we make the playoffs, he takes the award otherwise, it's going to Webb, imo
August 26, 200321 yr If you exclude the hype it is not even close. Statistically Webb is running away with the award realistically.
August 26, 200321 yr Author except for the W/L record which, although is a team stat, will help DW in the voting
August 26, 200321 yr Webb will never win the award with his horrid record (although I believe it is meaningless). If I had to chose someone other than Dontrelle or Webb, I seriously say Cabrera.
August 26, 200321 yr Author hmmm homer? Cabs is having a fine year, but doesnt deserve the award... over any of the above except for Robertson and maybe Byrd
August 26, 200321 yr lemme just say. Having outdueled randy johnson on your big league resume will give you a BIG push for ROY. his 11-4 record is much better than webbs ..8-6 although his ERA is not up to Webbs standards
August 26, 200321 yr except for the W/L record which, although is a team stat, will help DW in the voting Yes that is true, buit it is pretty telling that Webb's winn/loss record is bogus. He has never not had a quality start which is amazing. It has just been some bad luck on his part, he could easily have 15 wins by now, he has pitched well enough.
August 26, 200321 yr hmmm homer? Cabs is having a fine year, but doesnt deserve the award... over any of the above except for Robertson and maybe Byrd Wiggington and Podsednek are the only hitters that come close to Miggy, in my mind. Scott has a much better average than both, but much less HR's and RBI. Wiggington and Cabs aren't amazingly apart statistically, either. Cabs has a better average, and is somewhat close to him RBI and HR wise, which is amazing seeing that he started the year in late June and Wiggington was an opening day starter.
August 26, 200321 yr he could easily have 15 wins by now, he has pitched well enough. Same story for Dontrelle. And I think the fact Dontrelle was the All-Star and Webb wasn't will help him in the voting...
August 26, 200321 yr how about Jason Phillips WC? Meh. Does he even have a set postition, or do they just put him wherever there's a whole in the line-up that day?
August 26, 200321 yr .320avg 10hr 50rbi = meh? In how many AB's? Although I didn't think his average was quite that high, I'll admit...
August 26, 200321 yr There isn't much point in all of the other names. It might have been easier just to put Webb and Willis, or Webb, Willis, and other. You probably aren't going to find many people that are going to say Jason Phillips unless you visit a Mets forum. I say that if D-Train can pitch some more QSs and get a few more wins, he gets the award. If he loses all of the rest of his starts, or gets Ls and no-decisions WEbb wins, unless he gets banged up in his last starts. I have faith in D-Train.
August 26, 200321 yr Author I say that if D-Train can pitch some more QSs and get a few more wins, he gets the award. If he loses all of the rest of his starts, or gets Ls and no-decisions WEbb wins, unless he gets banged up in his last starts. I have faith in D-Train. the only way Webb will win is if DW loses the rest of his starts?
August 26, 200321 yr the only way Webb will win is if DW loses the rest of his starts? ...or gets a bunch of no-decisions.
August 26, 200321 yr Same story for Dontrelle. And I think the fact Dontrelle was the All-Star and Webb wasn't will help him in the voting... The only reason Dontrelle was an all-star and Webb wasn't was because of the publicity. If Webb was the one who ran off the mound and had a high leg kick, then the news stories would be about him and he would have been an all-star, that is all the seperated them before the break. Statistically speaking, excluding the hard luck of a poor offensive performance by his team leading to less wins on many occasions, Webb would be running away with the ROY award and you know it. Statistically speaking, Webb is superior clear accross the board in everything that is under a pitchers control.
August 26, 200321 yr Same story for Dontrelle. And I think the fact Dontrelle was the All-Star and Webb wasn't will help him in the voting... The only reason Dontrelle was an all-star and Webb wasn't was because of the publicity. If Webb was the one who ran off the mound and had a high leg kick, then the news stories would be about him and he would have been an all-star, that is all the seperated them before the break. Statistically speaking, excluding the hard luck of a poor offensive performance by his team leading to less wins on many occasions, Webb would be running away with the ROY award and you know it. Statistically speaking, Webb is superior clear accross the board in everything that is under a pitchers control. Was Webb 9-1 before the break?
August 26, 200321 yr Was Webb 9-1 before the break? I'm as a big a Dontrelle fan as the next, but Webb is superior statistically, period.
August 26, 200321 yr I'm as a big a Dontrelle fan as the next, but Webb is superior statistically, period. Willis deserved to be an All-Star ahead of Webb. How can you deny some one that was 9-1 in the first half the All-Star team. It is stupid to say that Webb should have made the NL All-star team ahead of Willis. Willis was beaten a total of 1 time in the first half. I know that ERA is more important than W-L, so look at Willis' ERA in the first half. To say that he didn't deserve to make the All-Star team and Webb did is rediculous...
August 26, 200321 yr Willis deserved to be an All-Star ahead of Webb. How can you deny some one that was 9-1 in the first half the All-Star team. It is stupid to say that Webb should have made the NL All-star team ahead of Willis. Willis was beaten a total of 1 time in the first half. I know that ERA is more important than W-L, so look at Willis' ERA in the first half. To say that he didn't deserve to make the All-Star team and Webb did is rediculous... Too bad ROY is based on the full year and not the first half, Willis has tailed off in the 2nd half while Webb has not.
August 26, 200321 yr Too bad ROY is based on the full year and not the first half, Willis has tailed off in the 2nd half while Webb has not. Don't you understand what I'm saying? I'm not saying that Willis deserves to be the ROY because he was 9-1 in the first half! I'm saying he wasn't an All-Star ahead of Webb because of the publicity. He was an All-Star ahead of Webb because he was 9-1! So don't go saying that Webb deserved to be an All-Star and Willis didn't. Was Webb 9-1 in the first half? NOOOOOOO.
August 26, 200321 yr Author DW should have been an all star and one could argue that Webb could have too.... but right now, Webb has the statistcal advantage over DW
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