March 29, 200620 yr Back to normal speak, looks like they are rioting over a piece of legislation that would make it alright for businesses to excuse young employees within the first two years of employment. Now I don't know this for sure, but I deduct this would mean fire them without giving a legit reason otherwise I don't know why they'd be angry to the point of rioting. If anyone has the details feel free to post them.
March 29, 200620 yr I'm pretty sure that this is emotionally tied into those riots that happened a few months back over the killing of a couple of Muslim kids in Paris.
March 29, 200620 yr They're simply upset because this means they no longer have an excuse not to work. This measure was passed to make it easier for other companies to hire younger people.
March 29, 200620 yr No other country in the world ,with a good economy, offers guranteed life time jobs; including the United States. They need to live like the rest of us.
March 29, 200620 yr So, does anyone know the real reason for the riots or are the American Krusaders just talking trash for no reason?
March 29, 200620 yr So, does anyone know the real reason for the riots or are the American Krusaders just talking trash for no reason? The current law almost makes it easier for France to declare war than it does for a company to fire an employee. The government wants to do away with the law which would allow companies to fire employees under various (still havily monitored and restricted) reasons and hire younger, more efficient workers. The rioters don't want the law changed for the most part.
March 29, 200620 yr Supporters Supporters of the CPE believe it will reduce unemployment, particularly among poor youths, referring to the alleged fear of employers to hire new employees based on protection France's job security laws afford workers. Others, such as "laissez-faire" capitalists, claim that firings are neither 'just' nor 'unjust' and simply free choices among both employers and employees. Critics Critics of the law include mostly left-wing individuals and political parties, and some right-wing opponents, such as the Union for French Democracy, saying that the CPE, which some opponents have dubbed the "Kleenex contract" (because they feel it allows employers to discard young people like facial tissues), will make it easier for employers to unjustly fire their employees
March 29, 200620 yr The French Worker has a governmentally-monitored Collective Bargaining Agreement that is in many cases legislated.
March 29, 200620 yr So, does anyone know the real reason for the riots or are the American Krusaders just talking trash for no reason? The current law almost makes it easier for France to declare war than it does for a company to fire an employee. The government wants to do away with the law which would allow companies to fire employees under various (still havily monitored and restricted) reasons and hire younger, more efficient workers. The rioters don't want the law changed for the most part. Thank you. :thumbup
March 29, 200620 yr Basically in french culture once you get your first job, you stay there for your whole life. Even if the workers are unproductive or just plain bad, it is very difficult to fire them. This law would give employeers a two year window to try them out. In most first world countries, if you dont produce you get axed. This doesnt really have to do with the protests of six months ago because those were the poor imagrent kids who cant get any job. These are the middle and upper class kids who will get a job, but want to be able to have job security.
March 29, 200620 yr In France and many other countries outside of the US, it is normal for an employer to be able to hire but not fire without real due cause like you can in the US. Thus while there is a shortage of available jobs, you are basically set for life once you get a job in France. Thats just what my teacher who lived in France for years has told me and what I have deduced from my reading on the subject.
March 30, 200620 yr French workers had it so easy to the point that it was putting a constraint on employers. I can't blame the French government for being proactive and trying to get more productivity out of young workers. As for the French joke... Q: There's a four way stop and at it are Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, a great French soldier, and an ugly bulldyke. Who gets through the stop first? A: The ugly bulldyke. The other three don't f***ING exist.
March 30, 200620 yr Off-topic: It always interests me to see people hate on the French for no reason. Anyone who has studied World War 2 and had a teacher worth a damn knows that the French Resistance didn't quit after the French government gave up. And yet the French are "all" cowards. People fighting, with no sign of help and their government giving up and we write them off by making jokes and insinuating they're cowards. And, for the most part, I admire France for not getting involved in pointless "wars." I mean, as an American, and seeing all the stupid fights we've gotten involved in (Gulf War, Clinton bombings, the immediately worthless Afghan reaction and Gulf War 2) what did we really get out of it? Obviously those people's lives aren't any better. And all for some pissing contest. The French aren't perfect. But I gotta' admire a place that says "Screw you and your wars, I'm not wasting my time or my people doing that crap." And keeping to themselves. Yeah, they're snotty about it, but hey, in retrospect THEY'RE RIGHT. I guess the countdown is now on to see who's going to tell me to move to France first (because that's the "American" thing to do; "Love it or leave it brother, love it or leave it!")
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