Not sure if anyone has heard about this yet, but apparently Bowden send us "damaged goods" in Majewski. The Reds think he knew Majewski was injured when he traded him, but with-held this information from the Reds. This would be against league rules.

 

Here are a few articles on it:

 

http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/spring/

 

Shot across the bow

 

Wayne Krivsky was clearly uncomfortable earlier this afternoon facing a throng of reporters to discuss the aftermath of Gary Majewski's injury.

 

The bottom line is he isn't sure yet what the MLB procedure is for grievances in this case, but it sounds like the Reds are checking into it. The Reds clearly feel like information was withheld here, but Krivsky bent over backwards not to take a direct shot at Jim Bowden and the Nationals.

 

He said he called Bowden this morning but had not heard back from him as of 5 p.m. or so.

 

Krivsky then was asked whether he would stop dealing with Bowden in the future and the floodgates opened. I'll run the whole quote and let it speak for itself.

 

"This doesn't preclude doing future business," said Krivsky. "I don't like eliminating talent pools. I don't like eliminating teams. Hopefully, people feel like when they're dealing with us they're dealing straight-up. I want people to feel like they're being dealt with honestly. For me, Wayne Krivsky talking, your credibility is paramount not only with (the media) but with other teams and the fans and ownership. You lose your credibility, you're done in this business. You better treat people right and treat them the way you want to be treated, or you're not going to be as effective a general manager, farm director, scouting director, scout. To me, that's a pretty big thing right there."

 

 

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/...sp&c_id=cin

 

CINCINNATI -- Was relief pitcher Gary Majewski damaged goods when he came from the Nationals to the Reds? Currently, it's a question without an answer.

Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky and the club were still sorting through that issue and left their options open Tuesday following revelations about Majewski's right shoulder injury that surfaced Monday.

 

The Reds could end up filing a grievance with Major League Baseball, claiming the Nationals knew they sent an injured player when Majewski came over in an eight-player trade on July 13.

 

"I don't know the answer to that one," Krivsky said Tuesday afternoon. "I'm going to lay low and see what happens. It's not really a subject I want to talk about too much. I don't know the protocol. Probably, other general managers don't also. I'm right there in unchartered area."

 

Majewski, 26, was placed on the 15-day disabled list Monday with what was termed by doctors as a "tired shoulder." He revealed he had soreness all season and took a cortisone shot with Washington shortly before the deal was made.

 

Krivsky said that Washington's medical staff did not inform the Reds that Majewski had a cortisone injection during trade negotiations. Cincinnati medical director Tim Kremchek, also an advisor for the Nationals, said the Reds were working off the medical information provided by Washington.

 

"All I know is when we did the trade, we did our due diligence," Kremchek said. "We asked the same questions we've been asking teams for years. The guy showed up and said he was fine. We took it at face value."

 

Majewski never found success since the trade. He posted a 12.54 ERA in his 11 games with Cincinnati. The right-hander was charged with at least one run in seven of his Reds appearances. Only three of 11 first batters he faced were retired.

 

Krivsky wanted to clear up the questions directly with Nationals general manager Jim Bowden and said he left a phone message on mid-Tuesday morning. It had not been returned as of 5 p.m. ET.

 

"I just wanted to have a conversation," Krivsky said.

 

But according to Bowden, who was the Reds' GM from 1992-2003, he had not heard from the Reds. He also said the Nationals were forthcoming with all medical information.

 

"We supply every documentation that's ever asked on every single player," Bowden told reporters late Tuesday afternoon in Washington. "I think that's just a media report. I don't think there's any truth to it. The Reds certainly have not called us and they certainly would call us if there was an issue.

 

"We all know he's thrown 11 times since the trade, and we all saw him throw 94 before the trade. So I don't know where that comes from. Certainly we've not heard it from the Reds. We would hear from the Reds if there was a problem. They know there's not a problem. They have all the documentation -- doctor's reports, training reports on any player in the transaction. If there's a problem, they would call us. They wouldn't go through the media."

 

Krivsky was asked if he'd do business with Bowden in the future, but he also addressed the issue of integrity in his response.

 

"Yeah, this doesn't preclude any future business," Krivsky said. "I don't like eliminating talent pools. I don't like eliminating teams. Hopefully, people feel like when they deal with us, they're dealing straight up. I want people to feel like they're being dealt with honestly.

 

"For me, Wayne Krivsky talking, your credibility is paramount. Not only with [reporters] but other teams, the fans, the ownership. If you lose your credibility, you're done in this business. You better treat people right and treat them the way you want to be treated."

 

 

Mark Sheldon is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art.../308080037/1071

 

Krivsky: No red flags

BY JOHN FAY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky would not say on Tuesday if the club will file a grievance over the Washington Nationals? failure to disclose that relief pitcher Gary Majewski, who has been sent to the disabled list, took a cortisone shot for tendinitis in his shoulder just days before being traded to Cincinnati.

 

?I don?t know,? Krivsky said. ?We?re trying to lay low and see what develops. It?s not a subject I want to talk a lot about.?

 

But the club clearly thinks it was wronged. Krivsky said he left a message for Washington general manager Jim Bowden Tuesday morning. He said he had not heard back as of 5 p.m. Tuesday.

 

 

 

 

 

Krivsky said he was not sure what the exact rules governing a grievance are, and he didn?t know what the recourse would be if there was a grievance and the Reds won.

 

?I?m in uncharted territory,? he said.

 

Krivsky said he?d work with Bowden again, then added:

 

?Hopefully when people are dealing with us, they feel like we?re being straight up. I want people to feel like they?re being dealt with honestly. For me, Wayne Krivsky, creditability is paramount.

 

He continued:

 

?(If) you lose your credibility, you?re done in this business. You better treat them right and the way you want to be treated.?

 

The Reds? medical director, Dr. Tim Kremchek, said on Tuesday that the team would have taken a closer look at Majewski?s health before completing the July 13 eight-player deal that sent Austin Kearns and Felipe Lopez to the Nationals had they known Majewski was taking cortisone shots.

 

The 26-year-old Majewski has struggled for the Reds. His ERA with the team is 12.54. He gave up 21 hits in 9 1/3 innings.

 

Kremchek added that an MRI would not have revealed the tendinitis in Majewski?s shoulder, and that he thinks the deal likely would have gone through.

 

"His shoulder looks clean," Kremchek said. "It would have been (Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky's) call, but I imagine we would have made the trade."

 

Said Krivsky: ?I?m glad we have Gary Majewski and he?s not hurt seriously. I?m disappointed he?s not active.?

 

The Reds had no reason to have Majewski examined. He pitched for Washington right up to the trade.

 

?I didn?t have any cause for concern based on the information we had,? Krivsky said. ?We felt like we did everything we needed to do before we made the trade.?

 

Kremchek said he has never given a player from another club a physical before completing a trade.

 

"The way it works is the GM talks to the GM," Kremchek said. "If there's any issues, medical talks to medical."

 

In Majewski's case, Reds trainer Mark Mann talked to the Nationals trainer.

 

"(The Nationals) didn't allude to anything," Kremchek said.

 

Kremchek, who is a consultant for the Nationals, said his relationship with that team may end over this incident.

 

Bowden did not return a phone call from the Enquirer on Tuesday.

 

In an e-mail sent to The Washington Post regarding Majewski?s placement on the disabled list, Bowden said, "In every trade we make, our medical and training staff are always thorough, complete and give full disclosure on information on any player involved in the transaction as requested by the other club involved in the transaction per major league rules."

 

From some of the info I gathered, if the Reds file and win a grievence they would get compensation back. That compensation could be Kearns, Lopez, or a Nationals pitcher. However it also could just be a minor leaguer depending on what happens.

MASN reported that Bowden never received a call or message from Krivsky. They said Bowden released a statement, and, paraphrasing, they said he said he had disclosed all medical information about Majewski to the Reds. They said he said he was pleased to learn that the MRI revealed no injury, and mentioned that Majewski had pitched for the Nationals and the Reds up until the point of this injury.

If you ask me, Krivsky is the only tool here. IMO he regrets making the trade and is now making excuses and pointing fingers.

If you ask me, Krivsky is the only tool here. IMO he regrets making the trade and is now making excuses and pointing fingers.

 

So he just made up Majewski's injury?

 

In 2004 Majewski had a 3.86 ERA, last year he had a 2.92, and before coming to the Reds he a 3.58 this year. With the Reds he has a 12.54.

 

He just all of a sudden got bad?

New team, new situation, new park, new catcher, new teammates.

 

There are a ton of reasons why he could be crappier with the Reds. He could have also gotten the injury while playing for the Reds.

If you ask me, Krivsky is the only tool here. IMO he regrets making the trade and is now making excuses and pointing fingers.

 

So he just made up Majewski's injury?

 

In 2004 Majewski had a 3.86 ERA, last year he had a 2.92, and before coming to the Reds he a 3.58 this year. With the Reds he has a 12.54.

 

He just all of a sudden got bad?

 

Relief pitchers are the biggest crap shoot in the game.

New team, new situation, new park, new catcher, new teammates.

 

There are a ton of reasons why he could be crappier with the Reds. He could have also gotten the injury while playing for the Reds.

Yeah. IMO the question isn't if he is hurt or not, it is if he got before or after joining the Reds.

 

A Cincinnati radio host said that Majewski had a cortisone shot in his shoulder during the All-star break, and that Majewski has told the Reds that the Nationals told him to keep his injury quiet.

 

I don't know if that is true or not.

 

ESPN's take

 

CINCINNATI -- Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky sought an explanation Tuesday for why Cincinnati was unaware that reliever Gary Majewski had a sore shoulder when the team acquired him in a trade with Washington.

 

The Reds didn't know that the right-hander had a cortisone injection in his shoulder before the All-Star break. Majewski was placed on the 15-day disabled list Monday after telling the team that his shoulder has bothered him since spring training.

 

A medical test found no serious injury. There's no telling how long he will be sidelined with what was diagnosed as a tired shoulder.

 

"I'm still trying to figure out what's what here," Krivsky said. "I'm glad we have Gary Majewski, and I'm glad he's not hurt seriously. I'm disappointed he's not active for us right now."

 

Krivsky left a telephone message Tuesday morning for Nationals general manager Jim Bowden. Majewski and reliever Bill Bray were the keys in an eight-player deal on July 13 that sent outfielder Austin Kearns and shortstop Felipe Lopez to Washington.

 

"I did call him, and I have not heard back," Krivsky said. "I just wanted to have a conversation."

 

In Washington, Bowden said he was surprised by the controversy in Cincinnati over the condition of Majewski's shoulder.

 

"I don't think they feel that way," Bowden said before a game against Florida. "If they did, I know one thing: Wayne Krivsky would call me directly.

 

"And our organization is always forthright honest in any transaction we make. We supply every documentation that's ever asked on every single player. I think that's just a media report. I don't think there's any truth to it, and the Reds have certainly not called us and they certainly would call us if there was an issue," he said.

 

Krivsky sidestepped questions about whether the team might file a grievance over the deal. Asked if a team should disclose during trade discussions that a player recently had a cortisone shot, Krivsky pursed his lips, thought for five seconds and then declined comment.

 

Krivsky wouldn't rule out future trade discussions with Bowden, who was the Reds' general manager for 10 years.

 

"I don't like eliminating teams," Krivsky said. "Hopefully people feel when they deal with us, they're dealing straight up. And I want people to feel like they're being dealt with honestly.

 

"For me, your credibility is paramount, not only with [the media] but with other teams and the fans and your ownership. You lose your credibility, you're done in this business," he said.

 

 

Fox Sports Speaks

 

Reds seek explanation on Majewski

 

CINCINNATI (AP) - Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky sought an explanation Tuesday for why Cincinnati was unaware that reliever Gary Majewski had a sore shoulder when the team acquired him in a trade with Washington.

 

The Reds didn't know that the right-hander had a cortisone injection in his shoulder before the All-Star break. Majewski was placed on the 15-day disabled list Monday after telling the team that his shoulder has bothered him since spring training.

A medical test found no serious injury. There's no telling how long he will be sidelined with what was diagnosed as a tired shoulder.

 

"I'm still trying to figure out what's what here," Krivsky said. "I'm glad we have Gary Majewski, and I'm glad he's not hurt seriously. I'm disappointed he's not active for us right now."

 

Krivsky left a telephone message Tuesday morning for Nationals general manager Jim Bowden. Majewski and reliever Bill Bray were the keys in an eight-player deal on July 13 that sent outfielder Austin Kearns and shortstop Felipe Lopez to Washington.

 

"I did call him, and I have not heard back," Krivsky said, before a game against St. Louis. "I just wanted to have a conversation."

 

In Washington, Bowden said he was surprised by the controversy in Cincinnati over the condition of Majewski's shoulder.

 

"I don't think they feel that way," Bowden said before a game against Florida. "If they did, I know one thing: Wayne Krivsky would call me directly.

 

"And our organization is always forthright honest in any transaction we make. We supply every documentation that's ever asked on every single player. I think that's just a media report. I don't think there's any truth to it, and the Reds have certainly not called us and they certainly would call us if there was an issue."

 

Later Tuesday night, Bowden issued a statement saying he was "disappointed" by Krivsky's statement that he had tried to reach him about the trade.

 

"I never received either a call or a message from Wayne, but when I read his comments this evening, I called him and reminded him that the Cincinnati Reds had received all of the medical information they requested, both before and after the trade," Bowden's statement said. "It is also worth remembering that Gary pitched for us right up to the trade and has continued doing so for the Reds up until now."

 

Krivsky sidestepped questions about whether the team might file a grievance over the deal. Asked if a team should disclose during trade discussions that a player recently had a cortisone shot, Krivsky pursed his lips, thought for five seconds, then declined comment.

 

Krivsky wouldn't rule out future trade discussions with Bowden, who was the Reds' general manager for 10 years.

 

"I don't like eliminating teams," Krivsky said. "Hopefully people feel when they deal with us, they're dealing straight up. And I want people to feel like they're being dealt with honestly.

 

"For me, your credibility is paramount, not only with (the media) but with other teams and the fans and your ownership. You lose your credibility, you're done in this business."

Don't the Reds give each player a physical before the trade becomes official? If he passed that then, get better doctors.

Don't the Reds give each player a physical before the trade becomes official? If he passed that then, get better doctors.

 

I would assume so, but I am not sure.

 

If he had gotten a cortisone shot a day or two before the trade he could pass a physical anyway.

The MRI revealed no injury, he's just suffering from arm fatigue.

 

If he was injured, the trade never would have happened.

 

IMO it sounds like the Reds are regretting this trade and are just trying to make excuses.

 

Why they traded Lopez, Kearns and Wagner for what little they received in return is beyond me anyway.

[Kremcheck] said Majewski's medical records did not arrive in Cincinnati until Aug. 1, the day after the trade deadline.

 

"And even then, they weren't complete," Kremchek said.

 

 

 

Majewskigate is going to get very interesting.

Honestly, I think that the Reds' GM just regrets the deal, now that Majewski is on the DL.

The Washington press is saying that information about the cortisone shot wasn't offered by Bowden or any Nats official.

 

 

It's not as if the teams exchange medical charts though.

The Washington press is saying that information about the cortisone shot wasn't offered by Bowden or any Nats official.

 

 

 

Yeah Krivsky is making this all up.

 

Even if the Reds aren't able to get anything back for him, Bowden was doing some shady things. I think the Reds could have done more research though.

That's not what I said. You really need to learn how to read. The Washington press is suggesting information was hidden from Krivsky.

That's not what I said. You really need to learn how to read. The Washington press is suggesting information was hidden from Krivsky.

 

Yeah I understood that. I wasn't rolling my eyes at your post I was rolling my eyes at.....

 

If you ask me, Krivsky is the only tool here. IMO he regrets making the trade and is now making excuses and pointing fingers.

 

 

I knew what you were saying. I should have made that more clear.

Wayne Krivsky is a tool.

With Majewski healthy or not, this deal will still probably go down as one of the worst all-time.

If you ask me, Krivsky is the only tool here. IMO he regrets making the trade and is now making excuses and pointing fingers.

 

bingo...nothing more than buyer's remorse