John Kruk talking about Scott Rolen said something to the effect that Rolen is not ready to hand the gold glove to David Wright. Am I missing something? Is there a valid reason why Wright should be considered a gold glove type player? I don't see it.

Not yet he shouldnt...

Broken record I know but:

 

Cabrera's fielding percentage and zone rating > Wright's

 

Cabrera's errors < Wright's.

 

Seems pretty simple to me who's the superior player.

Cabreras range factor is better than Wrights too if I am not mistaken.

Cabreras range factor is better than Wrights too if I am not mistaken.

 

 

About even.

Broken record I know but:

 

Cabrera's fielding percentage and zone rating > Wright's

 

Cabrera's errors < Wright's.

 

Seems pretty simple to me who's the superior player.

 

There's no doubt Cabrera is the better player. I think only a moron would argue otherwise.

 

Cabreras range factor is better than Wrights too if I am not mistaken.

 

RF is more dependent on how many balls are hit a players way than anything else. It's a useless stat. I wouldn't go around using it.

There must be alot of morons out there then Polo, because as far as most people are concerned...national media and otherwise...Wright is bar none the best catcher in the NL East, if not the NL, if not MLB all together.

There must be alot of morons out there then Polo, because as far as most people are concerned...national media and otherwise...Wright is bar none the best catcher in the NL East, if not the NL, if not MLB all together.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

 

:lol

Zimmerman is the GG winner this year or should be.

There must be alot of morons out there then Polo, because as far as most people are concerned...national media and otherwise...Wright is bar none the best catcher in the NL East, if not the NL, if not MLB all together.

 

Absolutely. Cabrera is better and it's not that close.

Zimmerman is the GG winner this year or should be.

 

 

Hard to argue against Rolen.

There must be alot of morons out there then Polo, because as far as most people are concerned...national media and otherwise...Wright is bar none the best catcher in the NL East, if not the NL, if not MLB all together.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

 

:lol

 

 

You know what I meant. I was in the Olivo thread at the same time.

The difference is that David Wright plays in NY...the over-hype capital of the world. He is average defensively same as Cabs

 

In reference to the GG you still have to look at Rolen and to a lesser extent Aramis Ramirez

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

OVER-HYPE!

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

 

Just like Aaron Roward. Sure he made that catch running into the fence, but he makes so many of his plays so hard because he takes bad routes to the ball. Half of the time they're routine catches for great centerfielders, but he always has to lay out or just miss it or drop it.

I'd award the GG to Zimmerman. He has the best range and a good arm. Wright shouldn't even be considered. At best, he's only #3 in the NL East behind Zimmerman and Cabrera.

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

Wright is more apt to screw up the routine play than to make the great play. If he didn't play in the NE he wouldn't even be mentioned in GG discussions. He's no better than average as a fielder.

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

 

So by that standard, Alfredo Amezaga and Gary Matthews Jr. are the best centerfielders in baseball since all they do are make crazy diving catches.

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

Wright is more apt to screw up the routine play than to make the great play. If he didn't play in the NE he wouldn't even be mentioned in GG discussions. He's no better than average as a fielder.

 

Yes, but those couple of amazing plays he'll make every week stick in your memory more than the rare errant throw or dropped ball. Judging defensive abilities is way too subjective at this point. Of course I'm biased towards Wright, I wach him every day and see that he makes plays that really no other thirdbaseman makes. You watch Cabrera every day and see he's a steady defender who won't make many great plays but won't make many errors either. I've never really put any creedence into gold glove awards anyways, I know David Wright is one of the best defenders in baseball, I don't need him to win a gold glove to recognize that.

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

Wright is more apt to screw up the routine play than to make the great play. If he didn't play in the NE he wouldn't even be mentioned in GG discussions. He's no better than average as a fielder.

 

Yes, but those couple of amazing plays he'll make every week stick in your memory more than the rare errant throw or dropped ball. Judging defensive abilities is way too subjective at this point. Of course I'm biased towards Wright, I wach him every day and see that he makes plays that really no other thirdbaseman makes. You watch Cabrera every day and see he's a steady defender who won't make many great plays but won't make many errors either. I've never really put any creedence into gold glove awards anyways, I know David Wright is one of the best defenders in baseball, I don't need him to win a gold glove to recognize that.

 

According to the numbers, it's not all that rare.

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

 

So by that standard, Alfredo Amezaga and Gary Matthews Jr. are the best centerfielders in baseball since all they do are make crazy diving catches.

 

I've never seen Amezaga, but Matthews is a very good defensive player who'll probably win a gold glove this season.

 

 

 

 

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

Wright is more apt to screw up the routine play than to make the great play. If he didn't play in the NE he wouldn't even be mentioned in GG discussions. He's no better than average as a fielder.

 

Yes, but those couple of amazing plays he'll make every week stick in your memory more than the rare errant throw or dropped ball. Judging defensive abilities is way too subjective at this point. Of course I'm biased towards Wright, I wach him every day and see that he makes plays that really no other thirdbaseman makes. You watch Cabrera every day and see he's a steady defender who won't make many great plays but won't make many errors either. I've never really put any creedence into gold glove awards anyways, I know David Wright is one of the best defenders in baseball, I don't need him to win a gold glove to recognize that.

 

According to the numbers, it's not all that rare.

 

16 errors, half of which are probably routine plays -- strectched over 135 games. That's rare.

I think GG is measured more on Fielding % and things like that. Not how many spectacular plays are made. We leave that up to the BBTN folks to throw in web gems.

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

 

So by that standard, Alfredo Amezaga and Gary Matthews Jr. are the best centerfielders in baseball since all they do are make crazy diving catches.

 

I've never seen Amezaga, but Matthews is a very good defensive player who'll probably win a gold glove this season.

 

 

 

 

The difference is Wright makes some of the most spectacular defense plays you'll see a thrid baseman make. Cabrera doesn't. Defense is the hardest thing to account for statistically, so it will continue to be a facet of the game that is judged by what you see.

 

Wright is more apt to screw up the routine play than to make the great play. If he didn't play in the NE he wouldn't even be mentioned in GG discussions. He's no better than average as a fielder.

 

Yes, but those couple of amazing plays he'll make every week stick in your memory more than the rare errant throw or dropped ball. Judging defensive abilities is way too subjective at this point. Of course I'm biased towards Wright, I wach him every day and see that he makes plays that really no other thirdbaseman makes. You watch Cabrera every day and see he's a steady defender who won't make many great plays but won't make many errors either. I've never really put any creedence into gold glove awards anyways, I know David Wright is one of the best defenders in baseball, I don't need him to win a gold glove to recognize that.

 

According to the numbers, it's not all that rare.

 

16 errors, half of which are probably routine plays -- strectched over 135 games. That's rare.

His fielding % is towards the bottom among MLB 3B meaning his errors are not that rare.

- CABS

 

- ZIMM

 

- ROLEN

 

- WRIGHT

 

 

 

Aramis actually has a higher fielding percentage then all and the least amount of errrors. Unless I am missing something.