Judging by what I've seen from downtown stadiums, I hate them. PETCO Park is located in the worst possible place. You cannot park at the stadium. You have to park at Qualcomm / Jack Murphy and park and ride the trolley 20 minutes to get to the game. The only other option is going into the downtown area and spending hours looks for an open Ace parking lot and spending 20 bucks to park for the game.

 

Going on this and the fact of how horrible a sports town San Diego is, I'm very surprised the Padres are still able to sell games out.

 

whats wrong with PETCO? you park your car at a trolley station and take the damn train to the game. The trolley is pretty convenient, so why would you want to drive when theres a trolley?

 

and if the idea is SO awful, then why do they sell out? :blink:

 

 

 

Oh please...the stadium is on the countyline... I think it's like 8 blocks from Broward. Kendall, South Miami, those areas further south may be in Miami-Dade but Palm Beachers can get to the Stadium quicker than they cna.

 

Exactly. DS is much more convenient to Broward residents than Dade, and Dade still is the largest draw of the 3 counties.

 

If you put the stadium in Pompano or some other piece of sh*t city in Broward, youll just have a stadium that isnt convenient to anybody

 

 

Yawn.

 

Is Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park convenient for anyone? Or Shea?

 

What does Miami want, it put right under their nose so they can fall out the door? Good teams in good markets draw fans, regardless of the "convenience."

 

For the life of me, I still can't understand why anyone thinks rain, heat or traffic exist only in Miami.

Yankee, Fenway, and Shea are all on transit lines. Not to mention that sports cities dont get much better than New York and Boston, so of course theyll show up...and people would do whatever it takes to make it to a game at Fenway and Yankee

 

also, you really cant underrate the weather factor in Miami. its one of the most (if not the most) uncomfortably hot cities in the US. Phoenix might be worse...but they have a dome and we dont.

 

fact is, Miami is a sh*tty sports town and people wont show up unless a) it becomes popular to do so (2003) or b) its convenient as hell to show up. putting the stadium in Broward would be an awful idea

 

Fine, then Dodger stadium.

 

Traffic is 100000000000000000000000000X worse, there's no public transportation of note, it's out of the city proper, day games are hotter, much hotter (heat issues are a common occurance) and there are a million things to do in LA, yet people still show up and the tickets still get sold.

 

Fact of the matter is, Miami always tells people why it won't support the team, but doesn't really do anything except whine about the way things should be, and what they're asking for is impossible, and they're expectations are so out of whack with other major cities it's obscene.

OK...so you think Miami sucks

 

then what is your solution? move to Broward? yeah, that'll work, because people really care about driving to baseball games there. no matter how much anybody thinks Miami sucks, our neighbors to the north suck worse. yeah, lets move to Pompano instead of Downtown Miami. thats a brilliant move

You're saying our attendance numbers wouldn't improve if we built a stadium in Broward? Do you know how much of an out of the way, backasswards drive DS is from almost every civilized area of Miami/Dade / Broward?

 

If put in the right area of Broward (not necessarily Pompano Park), attendance would skyrocket.

Judging by what I've seen from downtown stadiums, I hate them. PETCO Park is located in the worst possible place. You cannot park at the stadium. You have to park at Qualcomm / Jack Murphy and park and ride the trolley 20 minutes to get to the game. The only other option is going into the downtown area and spending hours looks for an open Ace parking lot and spending 20 bucks to park for the game.

 

Going on this and the fact of how horrible a sports town San Diego is, I'm very surprised the Padres are still able to sell games out.

 

whats wrong with PETCO? you park your car at a trolley station and take the damn train to the game. The trolley is pretty convenient, so why would you want to drive when theres a trolley?

 

and if the idea is SO awful, then why do they sell out? :blink:

 

 

 

Oh please...the stadium is on the countyline... I think it's like 8 blocks from Broward. Kendall, South Miami, those areas further south may be in Miami-Dade but Palm Beachers can get to the Stadium quicker than they cna.

 

Exactly. DS is much more convenient to Broward residents than Dade, and Dade still is the largest draw of the 3 counties.

 

If you put the stadium in Pompano or some other piece of sh*t city in Broward, youll just have a stadium that isnt convenient to anybody

 

 

Yawn.

 

Is Yankee Stadium or Fenway Park convenient for anyone? Or Shea?

 

What does Miami want, it put right under their nose so they can fall out the door? Good teams in good markets draw fans, regardless of the "convenience."

 

For the life of me, I still can't understand why anyone thinks rain, heat or traffic exist only in Miami.

Yankee, Fenway, and Shea are all on transit lines. Not to mention that sports cities dont get much better than New York and Boston, so of course theyll show up...and people would do whatever it takes to make it to a game at Fenway and Yankee

 

also, you really cant underrate the weather factor in Miami. its one of the most (if not the most) uncomfortably hot cities in the US. Phoenix might be worse...but they have a dome and we dont.

 

fact is, Miami is a sh*tty sports town and people wont show up unless a) it becomes popular to do so (2003) or b) its convenient as hell to show up. putting the stadium in Broward would be an awful idea

 

Fine, then Dodger stadium.

 

Traffic is 100000000000000000000000000X worse, there's no public transportation of note, it's out of the city proper, day games are hotter, much hotter (heat issues are a common occurance) and there are a million things to do in LA, yet people still show up and the tickets still get sold.

 

Fact of the matter is, Miami always tells people why it won't support the team, but doesn't really do anything except whine about the way things should be, and what they're asking for is impossible, and they're expectations are so out of whack with other major cities it's obscene.

OK...so you think Miami sucks

 

then what is your solution? move to Broward? yeah, that'll work, because people really care about driving to baseball games there. no matter how much anybody thinks Miami sucks, our neighbors to the north suck worse. yeah, lets move to Pompano instead of Downtown Miami. thats a brilliant move

You're saying our attendance numbers wouldn't improve if we built a stadium in Broward? Do you know how much of an out of the way, backasswards drive DS is from almost every civilized area of Miami/Dade / Broward?

If put in the right area of Broward (not necessarily Pompano Park), attendance would skyrocket.

 

Come on dude was that really called for? :thumbdown

Judging by what I've seen from downtown stadiums, I hate them. PETCO Park is located in the worst possible place. You cannot park at the stadium. You have to park at Qualcomm / Jack Murphy and park and ride the trolley 20 minutes to get to the game. The only other option is going into the downtown area and spending hours looks for an open Ace parking lot and spending 20 bucks to park for the game.

 

Going on this and the fact of how horrible a sports town San Diego is, I'm very surprised the Padres are still able to sell games out.

 

whats wrong with PETCO? you park your car at a trolley station and take the damn train to the game. The trolley is pretty convenient, so why would you want to drive when theres a trolley?

 

and if the idea is SO awful, then why do they sell out? :blink:

They sell games out because San Diego "sports fans", if you can even call them that, flock to any team that does halfway decent. When the Padres aren't doing good, it's all about the Angels. But when the Padres make the playoffs, the oh so loyal Padres fans are out in full force! It's the same exact way with football.

 

San Diego is the worst sports town in America.

If the stadium is built in Dade, Broward or Palm Beach county every person on this board that is a Marlins should be thankful and quit the bitching and moaning. Im sure every person on this board that lives in South Florida and goes to games would be happy to know they will remain in SOUTH FLORIDA. It's a whole lot better calling them the Florida Marlins rather than the Portland Marlins, San Antonio Marlins etc.

IH 10 runs both ways my friend! Native Texan here and I can tell you.....give me wide open spaces and long drives any day of the week! But remembering my times living in Florida, I do now remember how badly your highway infrastructure sucks.......so maybe that explains all the whining about the location. You guys easily have the worst roads outside of maybe.......Louisiana. All that being said though....not dawging your great state.......I have always said that if I couldnt live in Texas, Florida would easily be my second choice.

 

PBC residents, fill me in on this one: just what the hell has been going on that requires rush-hour construction on 95 in a 20-mile zone for THREE YEARS?! My family moved out of FL in 2004...in the summer of 2003 I went to the Rapids and got caught in this major construction area. Then this past March, I'm driving from NC to Miami and get caught in the SAME construction. :thumbdown

 

Traffic flow?

No it's really a construction zone. Only time(s) I've ever seen one of those orange signs that says "Next 20 miles."

IH 10 runs both ways my friend! Native Texan here and I can tell you.....give me wide open spaces and long drives any day of the week! But remembering my times living in Florida, I do now remember how badly your highway infrastructure sucks.......so maybe that explains all the whining about the location. You guys easily have the worst roads outside of maybe.......Louisiana. All that being said though....not dawging your great state.......I have always said that if I couldnt live in Texas, Florida would easily be my second choice.

 

PBC residents, fill me in on this one: just what the hell has been going on that requires rush-hour construction on 95 in a 20-mile zone for THREE YEARS?! My family moved out of FL in 2004...in the summer of 2003 I went to the Rapids and got caught in this major construction area. Then this past March, I'm driving from NC to Miami and get caught in the SAME construction. :thumbdown

 

Okay. Serious answer here. I have no idea. But it's not exactly the same construction right now. Sections of 95 have been upgraded through out the county. Sections between a couple exits at a time. They completed a widening around the airport and added in exit/entrance ramps directly into/out of the airport. Sections alot further south were completed at about the same time. Now they are working on the sections that connect those and also the sections that lead into Martin County. At the same time they are widening, and making into a major highway, Southern Boulevard. That is the main connection for the souther parts of Lake Okeechobee and Florida's west coast with downtown WPB. 4 lanes each way with flyovers past the main intersections (Military Trail, Australian Blvd, Jog and Haverhill Roads etc..)

Also new entrance/exit ramps are being built onto the turnpike with some other road widening projects going on. Many of these are SunPass only. Most notably would be the one at Beeline Highway. That has helped ease the entrance slowdown to get on the turnpike at PGA Blvd. Before that opening it could take an easy 30 minutes to get on there in nothing but serious deadlocked traffic during rush hour. It was so bad there that leaving a ST game we would hit 95 north another exit and get on the turnpike there to head south.

All of this makes traffic a nightmare right now and not just rush hour traffic. Being the fastest growing county in South Florida comes at some expense. Road contruction in our county is so bad right now that we have officially named the Construction Crane as our county bird. And there is no end in sight.

IH 10 runs both ways my friend! Native Texan here and I can tell you.....give me wide open spaces and long drives any day of the week! But remembering my times living in Florida, I do now remember how badly your highway infrastructure sucks.......so maybe that explains all the whining about the location. You guys easily have the worst roads outside of maybe.......Louisiana. All that being said though....not dawging your great state.......I have always said that if I couldnt live in Texas, Florida would easily be my second choice.

 

PBC residents, fill me in on this one: just what the hell has been going on that requires rush-hour construction on 95 in a 20-mile zone for THREE YEARS?! My family moved out of FL in 2004...in the summer of 2003 I went to the Rapids and got caught in this major construction area. Then this past March, I'm driving from NC to Miami and get caught in the SAME construction. :thumbdown

 

Okay. Serious answer here. I have no idea. But it's not exactly the same construction right now. Sections of 95 have been upgraded through out the county. Sections between a couple exits at a time. They completed a widening around the airport and added in exit/entrance ramps directly into/out of the airport. Sections alot further south were completed at about the same time. Now they are working on the sections that connect those and also the sections that lead into Martin County. At the same time they are widening, and making into a major highway, Southern Boulevard. That is the main connection for the souther parts of Lake Okeechobee and Florida's west coast with downtown WPB. 4 lanes each way with flyovers past the main intersections (Military Trail, Australian Blvd, Jog and Haverhill Roads etc..)

Also new entrance/exit ramps are being built onto the turnpike with some other road widening projects going on. Many of these are SunPass only. Most notably would be the one at Beeline Highway. That has helped ease the entrance slowdown to get on the turnpike at PGA Blvd. Before that opening it could take an easy 30 minutes to get on there in nothing but serious deadlocked traffic during rush hour. It was so bad there that leaving a ST game we would hit 95 north another exit and get on the turnpike there to head south.

All of this makes traffic a nightmare right now and not just rush hour traffic. Being the fastest growing county in South Florida comes at some expense. Road contruction in our county is so bad right now that we have officially named the Construction Crane as our county bird. And there is no end in sight.

 

It's all part of the overall widening of I-95 throughout Palm Beach County. I-95 through PBC used to be 2 lanes in either direction with a grass median. The highway is being expanded to four lanes, plus an HOV lane from the Broward County line to the Martin County line. The portion from the Broward County line to Linton Blvd. was finished first. They just finished the portion from Linton Blvd. to Hypoluxo Road. Now they're moving to do the central portion. At the same time crews have been working from the northern end (PGA Blvd.) south towards the Okeechobee Blvd. fly-over. It's a lot of work and, trust me, I've been living and working down here in PBC for nine years now, so I know it's a pain in the ass.

 

Coupled with the I-95 expansion is also the Turnpike expansion from four lanes to six lanes. The Broward to Atlantic Avenue portion was the first to be completed. Now they're working on the Atlantic Avenue to Lantana Toll. They are also completing the Bee Line Highway exit, the expansion of the Okeechobee Blvd./Jog Road exit, and soon they will begin construction of the Hypoluxo Road turnpike interchange (one I'm looking forward to). The overall plan is to have Turnpike interchanges throughout South County (at Glades, Palmetto Park and Yamato!).

 

Call it a result of the explosive growth in Palm Beach County.

IH 10 runs both ways my friend! Native Texan here and I can tell you.....give me wide open spaces and long drives any day of the week! But remembering my times living in Florida, I do now remember how badly your highway infrastructure sucks.......so maybe that explains all the whining about the location. You guys easily have the worst roads outside of maybe.......Louisiana. All that being said though....not dawging your great state.......I have always said that if I couldnt live in Texas, Florida would easily be my second choice.

 

PBC residents, fill me in on this one: just what the hell has been going on that requires rush-hour construction on 95 in a 20-mile zone for THREE YEARS?! My family moved out of FL in 2004...in the summer of 2003 I went to the Rapids and got caught in this major construction area. Then this past March, I'm driving from NC to Miami and get caught in the SAME construction. :thumbdown

 

Okay. Serious answer here. I have no idea. But it's not exactly the same construction right now. Sections of 95 have been upgraded through out the county. Sections between a couple exits at a time. They completed a widening around the airport and added in exit/entrance ramps directly into/out of the airport. Sections alot further south were completed at about the same time. Now they are working on the sections that connect those and also the sections that lead into Martin County. At the same time they are widening, and making into a major highway, Southern Boulevard. That is the main connection for the souther parts of Lake Okeechobee and Florida's west coast with downtown WPB. 4 lanes each way with flyovers past the main intersections (Military Trail, Australian Blvd, Jog and Haverhill Roads etc..)

Also new entrance/exit ramps are being built onto the turnpike with some other road widening projects going on. Many of these are SunPass only. Most notably would be the one at Beeline Highway. That has helped ease the entrance slowdown to get on the turnpike at PGA Blvd. Before that opening it could take an easy 30 minutes to get on there in nothing but serious deadlocked traffic during rush hour. It was so bad there that leaving a ST game we would hit 95 north another exit and get on the turnpike there to head south.

All of this makes traffic a nightmare right now and not just rush hour traffic. Being the fastest growing county in South Florida comes at some expense. Road contruction in our county is so bad right now that we have officially named the Construction Crane as our county bird. And there is no end in sight.

 

It's all part of the overall widening of I-95 throughout Palm Beach County. I-95 through PBC used to be 2 lanes in either direction with a grass median. The highway is being expanded to four lanes, plus an HOV lane from the Broward County line to the Martin County line. The portion from the Broward County line to Linton Blvd. was finished first. They just finished the portion from Linton Blvd. to Hypoluxo Road. Now they're moving to do the central portion. At the same time crews have been working from the northern end (PGA Blvd.) south towards the Okeechobee Blvd. fly-over. It's a lot of work and, trust me, I've been living and working down here in PBC for nine years now, so I know it's a pain in the ass.

 

Coupled with the I-95 expansion is also the Turnpike expansion from four lanes to six lanes. The Broward to Atlantic Avenue portion was the first to be completed. Now they're working on the Atlantic Avenue to Lantana Toll. They are also completing the Bee Line Highway exit, the expansion of the Okeechobee Blvd./Jog Road exit, and soon they will begin construction of the Hypoluxo Road turnpike interchange (one I'm looking forward to). The overall plan is to have Turnpike interchanges throughout South County (at Glades, Palmetto Park and Yamato!).

 

Call it a result of the explosive growth in Palm Beach County.

Thanks guys, yeah I was just baffled...I drive through PBC (not counting Boca) exactly two times in three years and run into massive construction both times and I didn't know what to think. The second time was when I was nearing the end of a full day of driving that started at 5:30 am so needless to say, I wasn't exactly pleased.