I don't have much of an opinion on Fredi given that I don't know anything about his game management style. He has worked under Bobby Cox and I hope he'll manage the clubhouse the way Cox does.

 

Regarding game management:

 

-- is Fredi another early-inning-play-for-one-run-bunting-freak like Torborg and McKeon and to a lesser extent Girardi or does Fredi play for big innings?

 

-- is Fredi the kind of manager that will run, run and run even with players who aren't good base stealers or does he pick his spots to run with good base stealers?

 

-- is Fredi a "gut feeling" kinda guy like McKeon or does he depend on historical data to make his decisions?

 

Anyone know?

how would anyone know?

how would anyone know?

 

I would think the people enamored with him would know.

how would anyone know?

 

I would think the people enamored with him would know.

but no one has ever seen him manage before

He has managed quite a bit actually, mostly (if not all) in the Marlins minor league system, since 91 or 92 I believe.

 

But I haven't seen much of it so I can't tell you.

He has managed quite a bit actually, mostly (if not all) in the Marlins minor league system, since 91 or 92 I believe.

 

well yea... but I meant no one here has seen him

ah...gotcha.

 

I think there was one guy on here who might have. but I can't remember the name.

but no one has ever seen him manage before

wrong

 

-- is Fredi another early-inning-play-for-one-run-bunting-freak like Torborg and McKeon and to a lesser extent Girardi or does Fredi play for big innings?

 

-- is Fredi the kind of manager that will run, run and run even with players who aren't good base stealers or does he pick his spots to run with good base stealers?

 

-- is Fredi a "gut feeling" kinda guy like McKeon or does he depend on historical data to make his decisions?

 

Anyone know?

It's been a long time since I've seen him manage, and was only 12 at the time (1997 season with the Portland Sea Dogs), but I remember he was a very smart manager. The team he had that year was not the kind you would run with much - Randy Winn, Mark Kotsay, Victor Rodriguez, and Alex Gonzalez could all steal a base at the right time. Fredi usually did elect to play for the big inning, since he had Kevin Millar, John Roskos, Mark Kotsay, Ryan Jackson, and Josh Booty ( :| ) who all had 20 or more home runs (Millar had 32 and 131 RBI in only a 142 game season). I can't say how much gut feeling goes into his managing, since I didn't particularly pay too much attention to match-ups (and with the minors having so many people go up and down, the historical data isn't always there). Sorry I can't be too much help, but hopefully it's a start. I think people will enjoy his style.

He did say yesterday that he has learned a lot from Cox, and will be implementing some of Cox's with him own touch.

I don't have much of an opinion on Fredi given that I don't know anything about his game management style. He has worked under Bobby Cox and I hope he'll manage the clubhouse the way Cox does.

 

Regarding game management:

 

-- is Fredi another early-inning-play-for-one-run-bunting-freak like Torborg and McKeon and to a lesser extent Girardi or does Fredi play for big innings?

 

-- is Fredi the kind of manager that will run, run and run even with players who aren't good base stealers or does he pick his spots to run with good base stealers?

 

-- is Fredi a "gut feeling" kinda guy like McKeon or does he depend on historical data to make his decisions?

 

Anyone know?

 

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1. Is there any manager in the NL that you know of that isn't an early inning bunt type? They all make this mistake.

2. Is there any manager you know of that runs runs runs with players that are not good base stealers

3. I'd have to go with gut feeling, because if any manager went with historical data then none of them would bunt in the early innings, yet they all do.

Girardi managed a lot like Torre (that Uggla bunt is just like the oft-used Jeter bunt or the "get 'em on, get 'em over, get 'em in philosophy), I can only assume Gonzalez will manage a lot like Cox. Rock, sleep, grumble, pop up every now and then to get angry and then sleep some more.

MOSTLY SMALL BALL, moving runners over, getting on base, taking your bases.

Thanks for the info, MarlinsFans46.

 

 

I don't have much of an opinion on Fredi given that I don't know anything about his game management style. He has worked under Bobby Cox and I hope he'll manage the clubhouse the way Cox does.

 

Regarding game management:

 

-- is Fredi another early-inning-play-for-one-run-bunting-freak like Torborg and McKeon and to a lesser extent Girardi or does Fredi play for big innings?

 

-- is Fredi the kind of manager that will run, run and run even with players who aren't good base stealers or does he pick his spots to run with good base stealers?

 

-- is Fredi a "gut feeling" kinda guy like McKeon or does he depend on historical data to make his decisions?

 

Anyone know?

 

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1. Is there any manager in the NL that you know of that isn't an early inning bunt type? They all make this mistake.

2. Is there any manager you know of that runs runs runs with players that are not good base stealers

3. I'd have to go with gut feeling, because if any manager went with historical data then none of them would bunt in the early innings, yet they all do.

1. I tend to agree however some managers do it more than others and I would prefer a manager that does it as little as possible. Some AL managers rarely bunt in the early innings.

 

2. Almezaga ran a lot and is not a good base stealer.

 

3. I guess I agree but some managers have more gut feelings than others.

Girardi managed a lot like Torre (that Uggla bunt is just like the oft-used Jeter bunt or the "get 'em on, get 'em over, get 'em in philosophy), I can only assume Gonzalez will manage a lot like Cox. Rock, sleep, grumble, pop up every now and then to get angry and then sleep some more.

:lol

 

You forgot about naptime, sleepy-break, and the pregame chilidog hour.

but no one has ever seen him manage before

wrong

 

-- is Fredi another early-inning-play-for-one-run-bunting-freak like Torborg and McKeon and to a lesser extent Girardi or does Fredi play for big innings?

 

-- is Fredi the kind of manager that will run, run and run even with players who aren't good base stealers or does he pick his spots to run with good base stealers?

 

-- is Fredi a "gut feeling" kinda guy like McKeon or does he depend on historical data to make his decisions?

 

Anyone know?

It's been a long time since I've seen him manage, and was only 12 at the time (1997 season with the Portland Sea Dogs), but I remember he was a very smart manager. The team he had that year was not the kind you would run with much - Randy Winn, Mark Kotsay, Victor Rodriguez, and Alex Gonzalez could all steal a base at the right time. Fredi usually did elect to play for the big inning, since he had Kevin Millar, John Roskos, Mark Kotsay, Ryan Jackson, and Josh Booty ( :| ) who all had 20 or more home runs (Millar had 32 and 131 RBI in only a 142 game season). I can't say how much gut feeling goes into his managing, since I didn't particularly pay too much attention to match-ups (and with the minors having so many people go up and down, the historical data isn't always there). Sorry I can't be too much help, but hopefully it's a start. I think people will enjoy his style.

lol my apologies... but you were 12 when you last saw him... just as if no one saw him

What if I kicked in the womb at a baseball game when he called for a bunt?

A better question is to ask what Cox's managing style is like...I've got a feeling it'll be more to my liking than Torre's style.

A better question is to ask what Cox's managing style is like...I've got a feeling it'll be more to my liking than Torre's style.

 

all I know is that I always hate when its a late game situation against Bobby and the Braves...

 

they always seems to have something up their sleeve

A better question is to ask what Cox's managing style is like...I've got a feeling it'll be more to my liking than Torre's style.

 

all I know is that I always hate when its a late game situation against Bobby and the Braves...

 

they always seems to have something up their sleeve

 

it's usually goes by the name of Jones

We'll see. Like most here I really hope he doesn't bunt much early in games.