December 3, 200619 yr Plus, Michigan's schedule was harder. I don't think anyone can dispute that, even if the SEC is a tough conference to play in. Oh really, let's break Michigan's "hard" schedule down. Forget Ohio State, we already know where they are ranked, plus Michigan lost to them. So let's look at how quality their wins were. 1. 5 of their opponents had losing records: Vanderbilt, Michigan State, Indiana, Northwestern and Ball State. I don't think we need to discuss these teams anymore. That leaves us with 6 teams to talk about. 2. 2 of their opponents were exactly .500: Minnesota and Iowa. Let's break them down. Minnesota: Finished exactly .500. Their only win against a team with a winning record was North Dakota State, not even a division 1 team. They went 0-6 against teams with winning records, 0-4 vs teams in the top 25, and were outscored 119-43 in those games. Solid team. Iowa:Finished exactly .500. Their best win was over Purdue. 1 of their 6 wins was vs a DII team, 3 more against teams at the bottom of their own conferences. 0-3 vs top 25 teams. 3. Central Michigan. Mid conference team. Sure they won the western part of the MAC conference, but can we count this win as impressive? They still finished 9-4 on the year and lost to every decent team they faced (Michigan, Boston College, Kentucky and Northern Illinois). Moving on, 3 teams to go. 4. Penn State finished 8-4. Sounds pretty solid, until you look at the schedule. They finished 0-4 vs ranked opponents. That means every win they had was against a non Top 25 team. Yeah thats right, they beat up on such in conference powers such as Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Michigan State and Minnesota. Oh yeah, their great out of conference schedule included Akron, Temple and the D2 Youngstown State Penguins. 5. Notre Dame. I think we all saw how overrated they are. They went 1-2 against top 25 teams, including getting beat by a combined 46 between Michigan and USC. They also had a last minute drive to escape UCLA and had an absolute miracle comeback to beat 4-7 Michigan State. Need I say more. 6. This leaves us with Wisconsin. Sure they went 11-1. Too bad they played 1 top 25 team all year, and lost. They had a horrible conference schedule that included wins over Indiana, Northwestern, Minnesota, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois and Iowa. Now I know people will say they can't control who they play in conference, it's not their fault. I agree, so let's look at their out of conference schedule, since they made that themself. Powers sch as Bowling Green (4-8), San Diego St (3-9), Buffalo (2-10), and the Western Illinois Leathernecks (5-6). That's a combined out of conference record of 14-33 (42%), and I'm supposed to be impressed by Wisconsin's 11 wins? Not quite. So yeah, I'd like to dispute your claim. They beat Wisconsin. Wisconsin is good. Don't kid yourself. I know you have a man-crush on the SEC, but Michigan beat Wisconsin. 'Nuff said. Both teams have an argument, but Florida wins the argument, hands down. See my previous post, point #6. Thanks. :thumbup You can only play the schedule they give you. Gee, guess we should punish Wisconsin. /tool
December 3, 200619 yr Author Plus, Michigan's schedule was harder. I don't think anyone can dispute that, even if the SEC is a tough conference to play in. Oh really, let's break Michigan's "hard" schedule down. Forget Ohio State, we already know where they are ranked, plus Michigan lost to them. So let's look at how quality their wins were. 1. 5 of their opponents had losing records: Vanderbilt, Michigan State, Indiana, Northwestern and Ball State. I don't think we need to discuss these teams anymore. That leaves us with 6 teams to talk about. 2. 2 of their opponents were exactly .500: Minnesota and Iowa. Let's break them down. Minnesota: Finished exactly .500. Their only win against a team with a winning record was North Dakota State, not even a division 1 team. They went 0-6 against teams with winning records, 0-4 vs teams in the top 25, and were outscored 119-43 in those games. Solid team. Iowa:Finished exactly .500. Their best win was over Purdue. 1 of their 6 wins was vs a DII team, 3 more against teams at the bottom of their own conferences. 0-3 vs top 25 teams. 3. Central Michigan. Mid conference team. Sure they won the western part of the MAC conference, but can we count this win as impressive? They still finished 9-4 on the year and lost to every decent team they faced (Michigan, Boston College, Kentucky and Northern Illinois). Moving on, 3 teams to go. 4. Penn State finished 8-4. Sounds pretty solid, until you look at the schedule. They finished 0-4 vs ranked opponents. That means every win they had was against a non Top 25 team. Yeah thats right, they beat up on such in conference powers such as Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Michigan State and Minnesota. Oh yeah, their great out of conference schedule included Akron, Temple and the D2 Youngstown State Penguins. 5. Notre Dame. I think we all saw how overrated they are. They went 1-2 against top 25 teams, including getting beat by a combined 46 between Michigan and USC. They also had a last minute drive to escape UCLA and had an absolute miracle comeback to beat 4-7 Michigan State. Need I say more. 6. This leaves us with Wisconsin. Sure they went 11-1. Too bad they played 1 top 25 team all year, and lost. They had a horrible conference schedule that included wins over Indiana, Northwestern, Minnesota, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois and Iowa. Now I know people will say they can't control who they play in conference, it's not their fault. I agree, so let's look at their out of conference schedule, since they made that themself. Powers sch as Bowling Green (4-8), San Diego St (3-9), Buffalo (2-10), and the Western Illinois Leathernecks (5-6). That's a combined out of conference record of 14-33 (42%), and I'm supposed to be impressed by Wisconsin's 11 wins? Not quite. So yeah, I'd like to dispute your claim. They beat Wisconsin. Wisconsin is good. Don't kid yourself. I know you have a man-crush on the SEC, but Michigan beat Wisconsin. 'Nuff said. Both teams have an argument, but Florida wins the argument, hands down. See my previous post, point #6. Thanks. :thumbup You can only play the schedule they give you. Gee, guess we should punish Wisconsin. /tool Tell that to Boise State.
December 3, 200619 yr I think Boise State should at the LEAST be in the discussion. I mean, they earned it, even if they'd get killed.
December 3, 200619 yr Plus, Michigan's schedule was harder. I don't think anyone can dispute that, even if the SEC is a tough conference to play in. Oh really, let's break Michigan's "hard" schedule down. Forget Ohio State, we already know where they are ranked, plus Michigan lost to them. So let's look at how quality their wins were. 1. 5 of their opponents had losing records: Vanderbilt, Michigan State, Indiana, Northwestern and Ball State. I don't think we need to discuss these teams anymore. That leaves us with 6 teams to talk about. 2. 2 of their opponents were exactly .500: Minnesota and Iowa. Let's break them down. Minnesota: Finished exactly .500. Their only win against a team with a winning record was North Dakota State, not even a division 1 team. They went 0-6 against teams with winning records, 0-4 vs teams in the top 25, and were outscored 119-43 in those games. Solid team. Iowa:Finished exactly .500. Their best win was over Purdue. 1 of their 6 wins was vs a DII team, 3 more against teams at the bottom of their own conferences. 0-3 vs top 25 teams. 3. Central Michigan. Mid conference team. Sure they won the western part of the MAC conference, but can we count this win as impressive? They still finished 9-4 on the year and lost to every decent team they faced (Michigan, Boston College, Kentucky and Northern Illinois). Moving on, 3 teams to go. 4. Penn State finished 8-4. Sounds pretty solid, until you look at the schedule. They finished 0-4 vs ranked opponents. That means every win they had was against a non Top 25 team. Yeah thats right, they beat up on such in conference powers such as Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Michigan State and Minnesota. Oh yeah, their great out of conference schedule included Akron, Temple and the D2 Youngstown State Penguins. 5. Notre Dame. I think we all saw how overrated they are. They went 1-2 against top 25 teams, including getting beat by a combined 46 between Michigan and USC. They also had a last minute drive to escape UCLA and had an absolute miracle comeback to beat 4-7 Michigan State. Need I say more. 6. This leaves us with Wisconsin. Sure they went 11-1. Too bad they played 1 top 25 team all year, and lost. They had a horrible conference schedule that included wins over Indiana, Northwestern, Minnesota, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois and Iowa. Now I know people will say they can't control who they play in conference, it's not their fault. I agree, so let's look at their out of conference schedule, since they made that themself. Powers sch as Bowling Green (4-8), San Diego St (3-9), Buffalo (2-10), and the Western Illinois Leathernecks (5-6). That's a combined out of conference record of 14-33 (42%), and I'm supposed to be impressed by Wisconsin's 11 wins? Not quite. So yeah, I'd like to dispute your claim. They beat Wisconsin. Wisconsin is good. Don't kid yourself. I know you have a man-crush on the SEC, but Michigan beat Wisconsin. 'Nuff said. Both teams have an argument, but Florida wins the argument, hands down. See my previous post, point #6. Thanks. :thumbup You can only play the schedule they give you. Gee, guess we should punish Wisconsin. /tool Yeah, I guess Wisconsin couldn't have controlled scheduling Western Illinois, Buffalo, San Diego State and Bowling Green as out of conference opponents. What was I thinking? Clown.
December 3, 200619 yr Plus, Michigan's schedule was harder. I don't think anyone can dispute that, even if the SEC is a tough conference to play in. Oh really, let's break Michigan's "hard" schedule down. Forget Ohio State, we already know where they are ranked, plus Michigan lost to them. So let's look at how quality their wins were. 1. 5 of their opponents had losing records: Vanderbilt, Michigan State, Indiana, Northwestern and Ball State. I don't think we need to discuss these teams anymore. That leaves us with 6 teams to talk about. 2. 2 of their opponents were exactly .500: Minnesota and Iowa. Let's break them down. Minnesota: Finished exactly .500. Their only win against a team with a winning record was North Dakota State, not even a division 1 team. They went 0-6 against teams with winning records, 0-4 vs teams in the top 25, and were outscored 119-43 in those games. Solid team. Iowa:Finished exactly .500. Their best win was over Purdue. 1 of their 6 wins was vs a DII team, 3 more against teams at the bottom of their own conferences. 0-3 vs top 25 teams. 3. Central Michigan. Mid conference team. Sure they won the western part of the MAC conference, but can we count this win as impressive? They still finished 9-4 on the year and lost to every decent team they faced (Michigan, Boston College, Kentucky and Northern Illinois). Moving on, 3 teams to go. 4. Penn State finished 8-4. Sounds pretty solid, until you look at the schedule. They finished 0-4 vs ranked opponents. That means every win they had was against a non Top 25 team. Yeah thats right, they beat up on such in conference powers such as Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Michigan State and Minnesota. Oh yeah, their great out of conference schedule included Akron, Temple and the D2 Youngstown State Penguins. 5. Notre Dame. I think we all saw how overrated they are. They went 1-2 against top 25 teams, including getting beat by a combined 46 between Michigan and USC. They also had a last minute drive to escape UCLA and had an absolute miracle comeback to beat 4-7 Michigan State. Need I say more. 6. This leaves us with Wisconsin. Sure they went 11-1. Too bad they played 1 top 25 team all year, and lost. They had a horrible conference schedule that included wins over Indiana, Northwestern, Minnesota, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois and Iowa. Now I know people will say they can't control who they play in conference, it's not their fault. I agree, so let's look at their out of conference schedule, since they made that themself. Powers sch as Bowling Green (4-8), San Diego St (3-9), Buffalo (2-10), and the Western Illinois Leathernecks (5-6). That's a combined out of conference record of 14-33 (42%), and I'm supposed to be impressed by Wisconsin's 11 wins? Not quite. So yeah, I'd like to dispute your claim. They beat Wisconsin. Wisconsin is good. Don't kid yourself. I know you have a man-crush on the SEC, but Michigan beat Wisconsin. 'Nuff said. Both teams have an argument, but Florida wins the argument, hands down. See my previous post, point #6. Thanks. :thumbup You can only play the schedule they give you. Gee, guess we should punish Wisconsin. /tool Yeah, I guess Wisconsin couldn't have controlled scheduling Western Illinois, Buffalo, San Diego State and Bowling Green as out of conference opponents. What was I thinking? Clown. You know absolutely nothing. And I will no longer take part in your dickish discussion. Enjoy hell, you bastard. Wisconsin would beat Florida. They'd beat your beloved Hurricanes. Hell, they probably screwed your mom last night they're so hot right now. You haven't even seen them play. You have chosen to ignore all posts from: The Fan. ? View this post ? Un-ignore The Fan
December 3, 200619 yr You know absolutely nothing. And I will no longer take part in your dickish discussion. Enjoy hell, you bastard. Wisconsin would beat Florida. They'd beat your beloved Hurricanes. Hell, they probably screwed your mom last night they're so hot right now. :blink:
December 3, 200619 yr Author I think Boise State should at the LEAST be in the discussion. I mean, they earned it, even if they'd get killed. Well every team would get killed by the Greatest. Football. Team. Ever. Except for Illinois (and Michigan) of course.
December 3, 200619 yr I think Boise State should at the LEAST be in the discussion. I mean, they earned it, even if they'd get killed. Well every team would get killed by the Greatest. Football. Team. Ever. Except for Illinois (and Michigan) of course. *YAWN* Call me when NIU is in the National Title discussion. Illinois game is a funny one. Especially since we got up and Tressel ran our run-run-pass offense the rest of the game. Then he blamed himself for vanilla playcalling, we come out and look awesome again the next week. Gee, your argument doesn't hold much water. I guess Ohio State is supposed to defeat everyone by thirty. I'd say you don't understand that, but it's probably true, you don't. You've probably never ever seen, let alone rooted for a first place team who but all but two, maybe three, opponents by a 2 touchdown margin.
December 3, 200619 yr Author I think Boise State should at the LEAST be in the discussion. I mean, they earned it, even if they'd get killed. Well every team would get killed by the Greatest. Football. Team. Ever. Except for Illinois (and Michigan) of course. *YAWN* Call me when NIU is in the National Title discussion. Illinois game is a funny one. Especially since we got up and Tressel ran our run-run-pass offense the rest of the game. Then he blamed himself for vanilla playcalling, we come out and look awesome again the next week. Gee, your argument doesn't hold much water. I guess Ohio State is supposed to defeat everyone by thirty. I'd say you don't understand that, but it's probably true, you don't. You've probably never ever seen, let alone rooted for a first place team who but all but two, maybe three, opponents by a 2 touchdown margin. What does that have to do with anything? The Michigan/Ball State game was the same way. Michigan was playing backups throughout the game, but people still hold that against them. The. Greatest. Football. Team. Ever. would kill everybody, especially a bad Illinois team.
December 3, 200619 yr Plus, Michigan's schedule was harder. I don't think anyone can dispute that, even if the SEC is a tough conference to play in. Oh really, let's break Michigan's "hard" schedule down. Forget Ohio State, we already know where they are ranked, plus Michigan lost to them. So let's look at how quality their wins were. 1. 5 of their opponents had losing records: Vanderbilt, Michigan State, Indiana, Northwestern and Ball State. I don't think we need to discuss these teams anymore. That leaves us with 6 teams to talk about. 2. 2 of their opponents were exactly .500: Minnesota and Iowa. Let's break them down. Minnesota: Finished exactly .500. Their only win against a team with a winning record was North Dakota State, not even a division 1 team. They went 0-6 against teams with winning records, 0-4 vs teams in the top 25, and were outscored 119-43 in those games. Solid team. Iowa:Finished exactly .500. Their best win was over Purdue. 1 of their 6 wins was vs a DII team, 3 more against teams at the bottom of their own conferences. 0-3 vs top 25 teams. 3. Central Michigan. Mid conference team. Sure they won the western part of the MAC conference, but can we count this win as impressive? They still finished 9-4 on the year and lost to every decent team they faced (Michigan, Boston College, Kentucky and Northern Illinois). Moving on, 3 teams to go. 4. Penn State finished 8-4. Sounds pretty solid, until you look at the schedule. They finished 0-4 vs ranked opponents. That means every win they had was against a non Top 25 team. Yeah thats right, they beat up on such in conference powers such as Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Michigan State and Minnesota. Oh yeah, their great out of conference schedule included Akron, Temple and the D2 Youngstown State Penguins. 5. Notre Dame. I think we all saw how overrated they are. They went 1-2 against top 25 teams, including getting beat by a combined 46 between Michigan and USC. They also had a last minute drive to escape UCLA and had an absolute miracle comeback to beat 4-7 Michigan State. Need I say more. 6. This leaves us with Wisconsin. Sure they went 11-1. Too bad they played 1 top 25 team all year, and lost. They had a horrible conference schedule that included wins over Indiana, Northwestern, Minnesota, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois and Iowa. Now I know people will say they can't control who they play in conference, it's not their fault. I agree, so let's look at their out of conference schedule, since they made that themself. Powers sch as Bowling Green (4-8), San Diego St (3-9), Buffalo (2-10), and the Western Illinois Leathernecks (5-6). That's a combined out of conference record of 14-33 (42%), and I'm supposed to be impressed by Wisconsin's 11 wins? Not quite. So yeah, I'd like to dispute your claim. They beat Wisconsin. Wisconsin is good. Don't kid yourself. I know you have a man-crush on the SEC, but Michigan beat Wisconsin. 'Nuff said. Both teams have an argument, but Florida wins the argument, hands down. See my previous post, point #6. Thanks. :thumbup You can only play the schedule they give you. Gee, guess we should punish Wisconsin. /tool Yeah, I guess Wisconsin couldn't have controlled scheduling Western Illinois, Buffalo, San Diego State and Bowling Green as out of conference opponents. What was I thinking? Clown. You know absolutely nothing. And I will no longer take part in your dickish discussion. Enjoy hell, you bastard. Wisconsin would beat Florida. They'd beat your beloved Hurricanes. Hell, they probably screwed your mom last night they're so hot right now. You haven't even seen them play. You have chosen to ignore all posts from: The Fan. ? View this post ? Un-ignore The Fan You just scored about 8 billion points with me.
December 3, 200619 yr Yeah, I guess Wisconsin couldn't have controlled scheduling Western Illinois, Buffalo, San Diego State and Bowling Green as out of conference opponents. What was I thinking? Clown. You know absolutely nothing. And I will no longer take part in your dickish discussion. Enjoy hell, you bastard. Wisconsin would beat Florida. They'd beat your beloved Hurricanes. Hell, they probably screwed your mom last night they're so hot right now. You haven't even seen them play. You have chosen to ignore all posts from: The Fan. ? View this post ? Un-ignore The Fan Wow, look at the drama queen. If your acting skills are this bad, I guess that is why you failed in that career field. Maybe you should waive the white flag next time. With your intelligence level, no wonder you are 28 and still in undergrad.
December 3, 200619 yr You just scored about 8 billion points with me. Oh man Dodge, you are like so totally cool! Better get back to Ruby Tuesday's, I hear some toothless people just sat down in booth 3 and need service.
December 3, 200619 yr You just scored about 8 billion points with me. Oh man Dodge, you are like so totally cool! Better get back to Ruby Tuesday's, I hear some toothless people just sat down in booth 3 and need service. I don't work there anymore. Who's next on your list?
December 3, 200619 yr You just scored about 8 billion points with me. Oh man Dodge, you are like so totally cool! Better get back to Ruby Tuesday's, I hear some toothless people just sat down in booth 3 and need service. I don't work there anymore. Who's next on your list? I don't know, were you making a point or did I misunderstand what you were trying to say there too?
December 3, 200619 yr You just scored about 8 billion points with me. Oh man Dodge, you are like so totally cool! Better get back to Ruby Tuesday's, I hear some toothless people just sat down in booth 3 and need service. I don't work there anymore. Who's next on your list? I don't know, were you making a point or did I misunderstand what you were trying to say there too? You made a fool of yourself so you switched gears and made a pathetic attempt at making fun of Buckeye and then me. Who's next? Laughter is good medicine.
December 3, 200619 yr You just scored about 8 billion points with me. Oh man Dodge, you are like so totally cool! Better get back to Ruby Tuesday's, I hear some toothless people just sat down in booth 3 and need service. I don't work there anymore. Who's next on your list? I don't know, were you making a point or did I misunderstand what you were trying to say there too? You made a fool of yourself so you switched gears and made a pathetic attempt at making fun of Buckeye and then me. Who's next? Laughter is good medicine. I made a fool of myself? LOL. God you are pathetic. Gooooo Redskins!
December 3, 200619 yr Ruby Tuesday's is good They have really tasty ribs. yes! and UF-Wiscy would be a helluva game
December 3, 200619 yr Ruby Tuesday's is good They have really tasty ribs. That they do. I'm getting hungry.
December 3, 200619 yr Ruby Tuesday's is good my mom got sick after eating their shrimp the other night. aint seen that much puke in a while. so whats everybody's opinion on who should play osu...
December 3, 200619 yr Florida's schedule was harder , michigan had their shot and lost and the game wasnt as close as the score suggests . The Gators have earned their chance to play for the title ....go Gators!!!!
December 3, 200619 yr This is a thread about College Football, isn't it? Food and football can be considered related. In fact, it's one of the greatest possible tandems of all time.
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