Back in September 2003 as the investigation was getting under way, Bush announced "If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is.... If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of."

 

Ah, so that's what he meant.

:lol

I mentioned in that poll thread that I didn't really care about this much either way but that there were other people much more deserving of pardons. Here's an example:

 

Robert Blandford, Diane Huang, David McNab, and Abner Schoenwetter

 

Three American seafood dealers and one Honduran lobster-fleet owner are currently doing hard time for importing lobster tails that were the wrong size and that were packaged in clear plastic bags rather than in cardboard boxes. They ran afoul of the Lacey Act, a federal statute that makes it a crime to import fish or wildlife taken "in violation of any foreign law."

 

The U.S. government argued that they had broken Honduran law because some of the lobster tails—3 percent, to be exact—were less than five and a half inches long, and because a Honduran regulation required that the lobster tails be packed in boxes. Yet Honduran officials testified that no laws had been violated.

 

Nonetheless, Blandford, McNab (the Honduran national), and Schoenwetter, three small-business men with no previous criminal records, were sentenced in 2001 to eight-year terms. Their "partner in crime," Huang, got off easy: two years' incarceration for the mother of two young children.

 

full article

 

I mean, honestly...wtf? This is the kind of crap that basically gets lost in this whole pardon stuff. Whether or not you think Libby did anything wrong or should be in jail, can't everyone agree that there is no need for people to rot in jail for putting lobster tails in bags instead of boxes--especially when it isn't even a violation of the law in question?

Clinton pardoned much worse individuals.

Thank you, if we need any more of that I'll give you a call on the bat phone. God, the guy's legacy is beyond worthless and some are still trying to salvage it by the whole "Well.... Well... Clinton was worse" arguement

If something happened along the route and you had to leave your children with Bob Dole or Bill Clinton, I think you would probably leave them with Bob Dole.

 

But that's just me. Hell, I just like hearing Bob Dole talk about Bob Dole. Bob Dole!

I mean, honestly...wtf? This is the kind of crap that basically gets lost in this whole pardon stuff. Whether or not you think Libby did anything wrong or should be in jail, can't everyone agree that there is no need for people to rot in jail for putting lobster tails in bags instead of boxes--especially when it isn't even a violation of the law in question?

 

Presidents do not use pardons enough.

Clinton pardoned much worse individuals.

Thank you, if we need any more of that I'll give you a call on the bat phone. God, the guy's legacy is beyond worthless and some are still trying to salvage it by the whole "Well.... Well... Clinton was worse" arguement

If something happened along the route and you had to leave your children with Bob Dole or Bill Clinton, I think you would probably leave them with Bob Dole.

 

But that's just me. Hell, I just like hearing Bob Dole talk about Bob Dole. Bob Dole!

I wouldn't want my kids watching Bob Dole using Viagra to screw his wife... :o

 

 

:lol

John Adams suspended the First Amendment, guy. Woodrow Wilson threw people in jail for criticizing the government. Let's also not forget FDR's Japanese Internment camps.

 

Think before you speak.

actually it was the republican controlled congress that voted in that bill...and they also made sure it was enforced alot more so than wilson

 

Yes the 1910s republicans, who led the charge for isolationism and antitrust legislation. Very similar to todays republicans, right?

John Adams suspended the First Amendment, guy. Woodrow Wilson threw people in jail for criticizing the government. Let's also not forget FDR's Japanese Internment camps.

 

Think before you speak.

actually it was the republican controlled congress that voted in that bill...and they also made sure it was enforced alot more so than wilson

 

Yes the 1910s republicans, who led the charge for isolationism and antitrust legislation. Very similar to todays republicans, right?

no...i just pointing out to the historically misinformed that wilson was against those acts and more busy with trying to get people to back the league of nations...but i appreciate your slight of hand

The Espionage Act of 1917 was passed by a split Congress and enforced by Wilson. Nice try, though.

 

Oh, my personal favorite part:

The legislation was passed at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson, who feared any widespread dissent in time of war, thinking that it constituted a real threat to an American victory.

Publications which the Wilson Administration determined were guilty of violating the Act "were subject to being deprived of mailing privilege, a blow to most periodicals," according to Sidney Kobre's book Development of American Journalism. A section of the Act allowed the Postmaster General to declare all letters, circulars, newspapers, pamphlets, and other materials that violated the Act to be unmailable.

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