October 7, 200718 yr im sorry but i think anyone in favor of getting rid of ronnie brown is retarded...he is an absolute beast He is, which is why it might make sense to trade him. Think of what Dallas did with Herschel Walker. It may have hurt them immediately, but it certainly paid off long-term. If he was just okay, we wouldn't get anything for him, so why trade him? But if he leads the league in yardage this year, we might be able to get a bunch of picks for him, which we really, really need. You also have to consider that we don't really have a chance of being good for at least this year and the year after. Ronnie will be 28 by the time we have even a chance of being good, and that's even looking at things optimistically. RBs start to go downhill at 30. The chances that we put together a serious title contender by the time he's 30 are very slim. id rather add to our weaknesses than create new ones...ronnie is the perfect kind of a back to thrive under cam That's the philosophy that got the Dolphins where they are. "This team'd be really good with a kick-returner and a veteran pocket QB..." thats bullcrap and you know it...A. ginn was drafted for his potential in the passing game...and a rookie WR isnt going to be a probowler this year...his primary value this year is as a kick returned, next year, he is the number 2 guy...and trent green was brought in because he knew the offense and he would be a good mentor to lemon and beck...
October 7, 200718 yr im sorry but i think anyone in favor of getting rid of ronnie brown is retarded...he is an absolute beast He is, which is why it might make sense to trade him. Think of what Dallas did with Herschel Walker. It may have hurt them immediately, but it certainly paid off long-term. If he was just okay, we wouldn't get anything for him, so why trade him? But if he leads the league in yardage this year, we might be able to get a bunch of picks for him, which we really, really need. You also have to consider that we don't really have a chance of being good for at least this year and the year after. Ronnie will be 28 by the time we have even a chance of being good, and that's even looking at things optimistically. RBs start to go downhill at 30. The chances that we put together a serious title contender by the time he's 30 are very slim. Yeah. Or even look at New Orleans. Ricky -> McCallister -> Bush. It worked out OK for them, too. No one will ever do a Herschel Walker-type deal again. EVER. Ricky -> McCallister -> Bush led to what exactly? One good season and another season that's been absolute garbage?
October 7, 200718 yr You wouldn't trade Ronnie for just a 2nd rounder, and if that's all they can get then forget it, obviously. But if you can get like a one, a two, and a five, or something like that, then you have to do it. I'm not sure if that's realistic or not. Ronnie is a good young player, but the point is, for where the Dolphins are at, I don't think he's young enough. If you go by the typical RB, he's got 4 seasons after this one before he either hits a wall or starts to decline. The best thing for the Dolphins would be to have young players that are all peaking at the same time. You don't want to hit some good drafts, only to have Ronnie get old, and then you have more gaps to fill.
October 7, 200718 yr im sorry but i think anyone in favor of getting rid of ronnie brown is retarded...he is an absolute beast He is, which is why it might make sense to trade him. Think of what Dallas did with Herschel Walker. It may have hurt them immediately, but it certainly paid off long-term. If he was just okay, we wouldn't get anything for him, so why trade him? But if he leads the league in yardage this year, we might be able to get a bunch of picks for him, which we really, really need. You also have to consider that we don't really have a chance of being good for at least this year and the year after. Ronnie will be 28 by the time we have even a chance of being good, and that's even looking at things optimistically. RBs start to go downhill at 30. The chances that we put together a serious title contender by the time he's 30 are very slim. Yeah. Or even look at New Orleans. Ricky -> McCallister -> Bush. It worked out OK for them, too. No one will ever do a Herschel Walker-type deal again. EVER. Ricky -> McCallister -> Bush led to what exactly? One good season and another season that's been absolute garbage? Brown has led to what exactly? Two seasons that have been absolute garbage? The Saints did pretty well for themselves with that succession considering Ricky Williams isn't even in the league right now.
October 7, 200718 yr You wouldn't trade Ronnie for just a 2nd rounder, and if that's all they can get then forget it, obviously. But if you can get like a one, a two, and a five, or something like that, then you have to do it. I'm not sure if that's realistic or not. Ronnie is a good young player, but the point is, for where the Dolphins are at, I don't think he's young enough. If you go by the typical RB, he's got 4 seasons after this one before he either hits a wall or starts to decline. The best thing for the Dolphins would be to have young players that are all peaking at the same time. You don't want to hit some good drafts, only to have Ronnie get old, and then you have more gaps to fill. Nobody is giving up a 1, 2, and 5 for Ronnie Brown. I like the guy, but come on. Marshall Faulk was traded for a 2nd and 5th...TO was dealt for a 2nd. No way Brown gets you a 1st and 2nd.
October 7, 200718 yr im sorry but i think anyone in favor of getting rid of ronnie brown is retarded...he is an absolute beast He is, which is why it might make sense to trade him. Think of what Dallas did with Herschel Walker. It may have hurt them immediately, but it certainly paid off long-term. If he was just okay, we wouldn't get anything for him, so why trade him? But if he leads the league in yardage this year, we might be able to get a bunch of picks for him, which we really, really need. You also have to consider that we don't really have a chance of being good for at least this year and the year after. Ronnie will be 28 by the time we have even a chance of being good, and that's even looking at things optimistically. RBs start to go downhill at 30. The chances that we put together a serious title contender by the time he's 30 are very slim. Yeah. Or even look at New Orleans. Ricky -> McCallister -> Bush. It worked out OK for them, too. No one will ever do a Herschel Walker-type deal again. EVER. Ricky -> McCallister -> Bush led to what exactly? One good season and another season that's been absolute garbage? They didn't wallow in mediocrity. They actively improved despite the easy solution to try to bandage a team.
October 7, 200718 yr http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=rt2c2h&s=2 99 is a piece of sh*t. Wow, what an asshat. He's got like 150 lbs on Green, and he is talking sh*t to a QB who is not even moving? That is why you are the Texans.
October 7, 200718 yr http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=rt2c2h&s=2 99 is a piece of sh*t. Definitely. I wish Satele had f***ed him up.
October 7, 200718 yr You wouldn't trade Ronnie for just a 2nd rounder, and if that's all they can get then forget it, obviously. But if you can get like a one, a two, and a five, or something like that, then you have to do it. I'm not sure if that's realistic or not. Ronnie is a good young player, but the point is, for where the Dolphins are at, I don't think he's young enough. If you go by the typical RB, he's got 4 seasons after this one before he either hits a wall or starts to decline. The best thing for the Dolphins would be to have young players that are all peaking at the same time. You don't want to hit some good drafts, only to have Ronnie get old, and then you have more gaps to fill. i still wouldnt do it...
October 7, 200718 yr Well, maybe you're right. I'm just talking if Ronnie puts up a sick season, like he's on pace to do. Like 2500 total yards. Marshall was really not that great with Indy, and TO had behavior problems. Those aren't really fair comparisons.
October 7, 200718 yr Brown has led to what exactly? Two seasons that have been absolute garbage? The Saints did pretty well for themselves with that succession considering Ricky Williams isn't even in the league right now. Brown's led to dick because he's been underutilized for most of his career. Also, the Saints have made the playoffs a grand total of 2 times since moving Ricky Williams? One year they were lit up in the first round and one year they made it to the NFC Championship purely on a gimmicky offense that has very obviously been figured out in year two. At least with Ronnie you have a guy whose skillset isn't reliant on gimmicks and has the physical ability to run behind a slightly below average to average run defense. Running back play hasn't been the issue with the Fins for the last half decade either. Fading defenses, back QB play, terrible secondaries, and poor drafts have contributed greatly.
October 7, 200718 yr im sorry but i think anyone in favor of getting rid of ronnie brown is retarded...he is an absolute beast He is, which is why it might make sense to trade him. Think of what Dallas did with Herschel Walker. It may have hurt them immediately, but it certainly paid off long-term. If he was just okay, we wouldn't get anything for him, so why trade him? But if he leads the league in yardage this year, we might be able to get a bunch of picks for him, which we really, really need. You also have to consider that we don't really have a chance of being good for at least this year and the year after. Ronnie will be 28 by the time we have even a chance of being good, and that's even looking at things optimistically. RBs start to go downhill at 30. The chances that we put together a serious title contender by the time he's 30 are very slim. Yeah. Or even look at New Orleans. Ricky -> McCallister -> Bush. It worked out OK for them, too. No one will ever do a Herschel Walker-type deal again. EVER. Ricky -> McCallister -> Bush led to what exactly? One good season and another season that's been absolute garbage? Brown has led to what exactly? Two seasons that have been absolute garbage? The Saints did pretty well for themselves with that succession considering Ricky Williams isn't even in the league right now. yeah...its brown's fault that the fins are terrible...go root for the bucs or whatever you do
October 7, 200718 yr Well, maybe you're right. I'm just talking if Ronnie puts up a sick season, like he's on pace to do. Like 2500 total yards. Marshall was really not that great with Indy, and TO had behavior problems. Those aren't really fair comparisons. Marshall was that great in Indy, he just wasn't on a glamor team like the Rams were for a few years.
October 7, 200718 yr Well, maybe you're right. I'm just talking if Ronnie puts up a sick season, like he's on pace to do. Like 2500 total yards. Marshall was really not that great with Indy, and TO had behavior problems. Those aren't really fair comparisons. Marshall was that great in Indy, he just wasn't on a glamor team like the Rams were for a few years. plus indy made it clear they wanted edge james at any cost
October 7, 200718 yr Well, maybe you're right. I'm just talking if Ronnie puts up a sick season, like he's on pace to do. Like 2500 total yards. Marshall was really not that great with Indy, and TO had behavior problems. Those aren't really fair comparisons. Marshall was that great in Indy, he just wasn't on a glamor team like the Rams were for a few years. I think he averaged under 4.0 yards a carry in Indy. That's not good. I know there's more to Marshall than that, but his value was nowhere near what it reached in St. Louis.
October 7, 200718 yr Well, maybe you're right. I'm just talking if Ronnie puts up a sick season, like he's on pace to do. Like 2500 total yards. Marshall was really not that great with Indy, and TO had behavior problems. Those aren't really fair comparisons. Marshall was that great in Indy, he just wasn't on a glamor team like the Rams were for a few years. I think he averaged under 4.0 yards a carry in Indy. That's not good. I know there's more to Marshall than that, but his value was nowhere near what it reached in St. Louis. Yeah, Marshall also went from being on a 3-13 team to perhaps one of the best football teams in the last 15 years. Of course his numbers will improve.
October 7, 200718 yr Well, maybe you're right. I'm just talking if Ronnie puts up a sick season, like he's on pace to do. Like 2500 total yards. Marshall was really not that great with Indy, and TO had behavior problems. Those aren't really fair comparisons. Marshall was that great in Indy, he just wasn't on a glamor team like the Rams were for a few years. I think he averaged under 4.0 yards a carry in Indy. That's not good. I know there's more to Marshall than that, but his value was nowhere near what it reached in St. Louis. but he also had anywhere from 47-80 catches a year when he was with indy
October 7, 200718 yr Author http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=rt2c2h&s=2 99 is a piece of sh*t. WTF, what an ass
October 7, 200718 yr Well, maybe you're right. I'm just talking if Ronnie puts up a sick season, like he's on pace to do. Like 2500 total yards. Marshall was really not that great with Indy, and TO had behavior problems. Those aren't really fair comparisons. Marshall was that great in Indy, he just wasn't on a glamor team like the Rams were for a few years. I think he averaged under 4.0 yards a carry in Indy. That's not good. I know there's more to Marshall than that, but his value was nowhere near what it reached in St. Louis. Yeah, Marshall also went from being on a 3-13 team to perhaps one of the best football teams in the last 15 years. Of course his numbers will improve. Obviously. That's not the point. A running back with a 3.8 ypc over 5 years (I just did the math) will not have the same value as a guy with an average over 5.0, who is also on a crappy team by the way. Ronnie Brown is on pace to destroy anything Marshall ever did with Indy.
October 7, 200718 yr Well, maybe you're right. I'm just talking if Ronnie puts up a sick season, like he's on pace to do. Like 2500 total yards. Marshall was really not that great with Indy, and TO had behavior problems. Those aren't really fair comparisons. Marshall was that great in Indy, he just wasn't on a glamor team like the Rams were for a few years. I think he averaged under 4.0 yards a carry in Indy. That's not good. I know there's more to Marshall than that, but his value was nowhere near what it reached in St. Louis. Yeah, Marshall also went from being on a 3-13 team to perhaps one of the best football teams in the last 15 years. Of course his numbers will improve. Obviously. That's not the point. A running back with a 3.8 ypc over 5 years (I just did the math) will not have the same value as a guy with an average over 5.0, who is also on a crappy team by the way. Ronnie Brown is on pace to destroy anything Marshall ever did with Indy.exactly why not to get rid of him
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