December 5, 200718 yr Cameron Maybin is the prize of this blockbuster deal. He's a multi-tool player with incredible upside. He can impact the game with his speed, power and his defense. He has tremendous bat speed with power to all fields. Cam has plus speed, so he's deadly on the bases. He has very good range and possesses the arm strength needed to play centerfield. Maybin spent the majority of the year in High-A Lakeland where he hit .304/.393/.486 with 10 homeruns and 25 stolen bases in 296 at bats. He got 49 at bats at the major league level but was clearly over matched, hitting .143/.208/.265, but you have to remember this was all as a 20 year old. He's got absolute phenom potential and like Hanley, can hit anywhere in the lineup. He will be your Opening Day centerfielder Andrew Miller will slide nicely into the 2008 rotation. In 2006, he was the draft's consensus top talent and Baseball America's College Player of the Year. He slid to Detroit at No. 6 because of signability concerns. There aren't many lefthanders out there who have both Miller's size (6'6) and stuff, as he projects to be a frontline starter. He throws in the mid 90s with ease and has been gunned as high as 98mph. He has a mid-80s slider that is already a plus pitch. Miller also throws a changeup that showed much improvement throughout 2007. In 9 starts in High-A Lakeland, Miller went 1-4 with a 3.32era and a 1.41whip. He dominated once he was promoted to AA Erie, where he went 2-0 with a 0.59era and a 0.88whip in 30.2 innings pitched. Miller saw 64 innings of major league action this year as a 22 year old. he went 5-5 with a 5.63era and a 1.75 whip. Andrew will fit somewhere in the rotation of the Marlins for Opening Day. I would start the season with Maybin and Miller in the minors. This past season they both struggled with the Tigers so I wouldn't assume they're both ready to put up good numbers at the MLB level. It makes no sense to have them eat a chunk of their cheap service time while they struggle. Let them get more seasoning in the minors so when called-up they're more likely to produce.
December 5, 200718 yr I'm not sold on Miller, to be honest. His MiLB K rate isn't so hot. But I suppose he'll be good if he can keep that HR rate that low, which isn't a given, but shouldn't be difficult in DS.
December 5, 200718 yr Author I'm not sold on Miller, to be honest. His MiLB K rate isn't so hot. But I suppose he'll be good if he can keep that HR rate that low, which isn't a given, but shouldn't be difficult in DS. His MiLB K rate is in line with his ML rate, in just a 11 or so inning diff
December 5, 200718 yr I'm not sold on Miller, to be honest. His MiLB K rate isn't so hot. But I suppose he'll be good if he can keep that HR rate that low, which isn't a given, but shouldn't be difficult in DS. His MiLB K rate is in line with his ML rate, in just a 11 or so inning diff No, I know that. That's what frightens me. You like to see guys in the minors strike out more than that. I mean, hell Olsen struck out 9.7 in the minors per 9.
December 5, 200718 yr I'm not sold on Miller, to be honest. His MiLB K rate isn't so hot. But I suppose he'll be good if he can keep that HR rate that low, which isn't a given, but shouldn't be difficult in DS. Tigers definitely rushed him, he only got 85 IP in the minors after being drafted 18 months ago. The low WHIP and BAA was there though, and sometimes K/9's can be overrated.
December 5, 200718 yr I'm not sold on Miller, to be honest. His MiLB K rate isn't so hot. But I suppose he'll be good if he can keep that HR rate that low, which isn't a given, but shouldn't be difficult in DS. Tigers definitely rushed him, he only got 85 IP in the minors after being drafted 18 months ago. The low WHIP and BAA was there though, and sometimes K/9's can be overrated. K/BB is more important, but isn't he better than 7k/9ip? That is not in a danger zone.
December 5, 200718 yr I'm not sold on Miller, to be honest. His MiLB K rate isn't so hot. But I suppose he'll be good if he can keep that HR rate that low, which isn't a given, but shouldn't be difficult in DS. yea w/e your sig is too distracting to read your post :thumbup
December 5, 200718 yr I'm not sold on Miller, to be honest. His MiLB K rate isn't so hot. But I suppose he'll be good if he can keep that HR rate that low, which isn't a given, but shouldn't be difficult in DS. His MiLB K rate is in line with his ML rate, in just a 11 or so inning diff No, I know that. That's what frightens me. You like to see guys in the minors strike out more than that. I mean, hell Olsen struck out 9.7 in the minors per 9. That concerns me, too. Maybe his secondary pitches are lacking. It's hard to strike out hitters when they know your can't throw a secondary pitch for a strike.
December 5, 200718 yr Tigers definitely rushed him, he only got 85 IP in the minors after being drafted 18 months ago. The low WHIP and BAA was there though, and sometimes K/9's can be overrated. It was in his contract that he had to get a call up to the Tigers in 2006. You know what else? Miller has the right to opt out of his contract once he's eligible for salary arbitration! Just wanted to pass on the info... http://www.mlb4u.com/profile.php?id=1231
December 5, 200718 yr The last of that (the contract thing) is "...if eligible for salary arbitration", not "once". He still is under the control of marlins for another 5+ years. I believe the idea is if he were in a position to make more $$$ under arbitration than the contract would provide, he can choose to divorce himself from the contract and go to arbitration.
December 5, 200718 yr The last of that (the contract thing) is "...if eligible for salary arbitration", not "once". He still is under the control of marlins for another 5+ years. I believe the idea is if he were in a position to make more $$$ under arbitration than the contract would provide, he can choose to divorce himself from the contract and go to arbitration. I'm not sure I understand. Due to his service time, he is under club control for three full seasons, correct? So wouldn't he be eligible for arbitration after the 2010 season?
December 5, 200718 yr Maybin will be a stud but he is nowhere near ready. The only way the Marlins should have him in the opening day lineup is if there is absolutly no one else. If they do call him up, expect a .220 season with a lot of strikeouts and a lot of stolen bases. Miller is a maybe. If he developed a solid second pitch (slider or curve) in the off-season and cna throw it for strikes, then he could be an effective starter next year. His stuff is filthy and his fastball has so much movement it is basically two pitches by itself. He will get off to a hot start because NL hitters will be completly unfamiliar with the way he pitches. DLC should be in the opening day roster assuming he developed a semblance of control in the off season.
December 5, 200718 yr The last of that (the contract thing) is "...if eligible for salary arbitration", not "once". He still is under the control of marlins for another 5+ years. I believe the idea is if he were in a position to make more $$$ under arbitration than the contract would provide, he can choose to divorce himself from the contract and go to arbitration. "Once" and "if" essentially have the same meaning in this context. If he is eligible for salary arbitration, he has the right to opt out. So after 3 years of service time he will be able to opt out of his contract. The website above doesn't show the actual language of the contract, so this is probably pure speculation and some reporter's interpretation of the language.
December 5, 200718 yr Author I'm not sold on Miller, to be honest. His MiLB K rate isn't so hot. But I suppose he'll be good if he can keep that HR rate that low, which isn't a given, but shouldn't be difficult in DS. His MiLB K rate is in line with his ML rate, in just a 11 or so inning diff No, I know that. That's what frightens me. You like to see guys in the minors strike out more than that. I mean, hell Olsen struck out 9.7 in the minors per 9. That concerns me, too. Maybe his secondary pitches are lacking. It's hard to strike out hitters when they know your can't throw a secondary pitch for a strike. It would concern me more if his MLB rate dropped from his MiLB rate. It didn't.
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