August 1, 200818 yr Peter Gammons was on 790 w/ Lebatard and he was asked what happened. Peter Gammons said that it was not the $2 million rumor. He said that when everyone went to sleep that night before it looked like a done deal. but then in the morning Pitt. decided they didn't like the package from the Marlins. Boston and the Marlins were go to go. The players Pitt was going to recieve from the Marlins were Jeremy, Tank, and Coghlan. He said that Pitt was trying then to get the best of the Marlins and Bienfest stood his ground. This is the information that the Red Sox told Gammons. Hope that clears everything. And I hope all the players that Pitt got become a BUST!!!
August 1, 200818 yr It is a tough loss in the end, but I think the team is still a good team and we can pick up a few pieces at the waiver wire.
August 1, 200818 yr hey, i still believe Pittsburgh got the best deal out of the 3. They got a hard throwing righty that can throw 97 MPH, a guy in Brandon Moss very similar to Jacory Ellsbury, and the top player in the dodgers farm system in Andy Laroache
August 1, 200818 yr hey, i still believe Pittsburgh got the best deal out of the 3. They got a hard throwing righty that can throw 97 MPH, a guy in Brandon Moss very similar to Jacory Ellsbury, and the top player in the dodgers farm system in Andy Laroache moss is nothing like jacoby he isnt fast he has more power and hes not gonna be that great hansen is a future closer but he need to get some control laroche is gonna be a beast and he has his brother across the diamond
August 1, 200818 yr hey, i still believe Pittsburgh got the best deal out of the 3. They got a hard throwing righty that can throw 97 MPH, a guy in Brandon Moss very similar to Jacory Ellsbury, and the top player in the dodgers farm system in Andy Laroache Excuse me? If he were "very similar" to JacoBy Ellsbury, the Sox would have traded Manny for a boatload of prospects... Moss is and will be a 4th OFer unless he suddenly has a HUGE talent surge, he's a platoon guy at best...
August 1, 200818 yr If those were the players the Marlins would have given up, I would be less opposed to the trade. I wonder if the Marlins are considering locking up Uggla if they are so quick to deal Coghlan.
August 1, 200818 yr hey, i still believe Pittsburgh got the best deal out of the 3. They got a hard throwing righty that can throw 97 MPH, a guy in Brandon Moss very similar to Jacory Ellsbury, and the top player in the dodgers farm system in Andy Laroache Excuse me? If he were "very similar" to JacoBy Ellsbury, the Sox would have traded Manny for a boatload of prospects... Moss is and will be a 4th OFer unless he suddenly has a HUGE talent surge, he's a platoon guy at best... i disagree, Moss has played good when he gets the chance, i think Pittsburgh was a great place for him to mature
August 1, 200818 yr Also, Closer prospect Craig Hansen has a career WHIP of 1.67 in 70+ IP with a career ERA over 6... He was kind of rushed through Boston's system, but by no means is he a big time prospect anymore... he's a hard thrower with control issues... maybe if the Pirates take the time to develop him he'll turn into something.... but yeah, pretty meh
August 1, 200818 yr Also, Closer prospect Craig Hansen has a career WHIP of 1.67 in 70+ IP with a career ERA over 6... He was kind of rushed through Boston's system, but by no means is he a big time prospect anymore... he's a hard thrower with control issues... maybe if the Pirates take the time to develop him he'll turn into something.... but yeah, pretty meh u just mentioned why i think he will be good, the Pirates are in the stages of rebuilding, they can take their time at bringing these guys up, with a 97 MPH fastball and an efficient secondary pitch anybody can become a great closer
August 1, 200818 yr I wonder if the Marlins are considering locking up Uggla if they are so quick to deal Coghlan. One can only hope.
August 1, 200818 yr I wonder if the Marlins are considering locking up Uggla if they are so quick to deal Coghlan. One can only hope. i'm on the fence about Uggla, i was never to high on guys batting .260 or lower for 2 straight seasons, but Uggla just has improved his game in every other aspect that they have no choice but to give him a long term deal
August 1, 200818 yr hey, i still believe Pittsburgh got the best deal out of the 3. They got a hard throwing righty that can throw 97 MPH, a guy in Brandon Moss very similar to Jacory Ellsbury, and the top player in the dodgers farm system in Andy Laroache Excuse me? If he were "very similar" to JacoBy Ellsbury, the Sox would have traded Manny for a boatload of prospects... Moss is and will be a 4th OFer unless he suddenly has a HUGE talent surge, he's a platoon guy at best... i disagree, Moss has played good when he gets the chance, i think Pittsburgh was a great place for him to mature He's got a career minor league OPS of .815, that's a little above average in the minors... if you're looking at his major league numbers, they are the result of a small sample size... a grand total of 103 career ABs, about 1/5 a season... he's really very meh, his only redeeming factor is that he's cheap and cost controlled
August 1, 200818 yr I wonder if the Marlins are considering locking up Uggla if they are so quick to deal Coghlan. I had the same thought.
August 1, 200818 yr I wonder if the Marlins are considering locking up Uggla if they are so quick to deal Coghlan. I had the same thought. yea but if not uggla is probably gone this offseason or sometime next year ive heard great things about coughlin hopefully he can live up to expectations
August 1, 200818 yr Also, Closer prospect Craig Hansen has a career WHIP of 1.67 in 70+ IP with a career ERA over 6... He was kind of rushed through Boston's system, but by no means is he a big time prospect anymore... he's a hard thrower with control issues... maybe if the Pirates take the time to develop him he'll turn into something.... but yeah, pretty meh u just mentioned why i think he will be good, the Pirates are in the stages of rebuilding, they can take their time at bringing these guys up, with a 97 MPH fastball and an efficient secondary pitch anybody can become a great closer ANY decent pitcher can become a GREAT closer... closing in and of itself isn't that hard for the most part... go into the 9th, with a lead and record 3 outs, that's what constitutes 90% of a closer's job... occasionally he might come in to stop a rally in the 8th, but that's not often, NEVER should a closing PROSPECT be a big part of a trade... he was added so the Pirates could take a flier on him... which is basically hoping he figures it out
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