Giantsin04 please if you are going to make so many polls atleast be fair and dont try to put your team out there like if the Giants are " GOOD ". They havnt won a WS in about let me see 30 years ?

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Yeah, closers aren't important.

 

Cause NO team has EVER not won it all because their closer sucks. Never happened. Not once. Never costs them playoff spots either. (Checks under Phillies, Philadelphia 2003)

 

Happens all the time. Closers are important. Don't fool yourself.

 

And that pinch hitter comparison is stupid.

 

If a pinch hitter comes up in the ninth inning and gets clutch base hits 50 times in a season to ensure victories, I'd vote for him.

 

I honestly don't think you'd be making this argument if Jason Schmidt was a Dodger and Eric Gagne was a Giant.

actually i would. Gagne's the third most deserving on his team. I would put Brown and Nomo ahead of him on the Cy Young voting.

Schmidt, then Ortiz