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This is why we believe pudge is gone!

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i was one of the first to be optomistic about pudge stayin when he brought up he would love to stay here and finish his career here...but the last couple days shows he said all that in the spurt of the moment..first he files for free agency..next when asked if he wanted to stay with the marlins he said "my agent is taking in the best offers from lots of teams and the marlins are just one of them"quoted from an herald article...also his agent is boras and has clearly said nothing about the supposed home town discount...i think he sees wut we all see that this year we will lose alot of talent if we dont get a stadium deal done and he doesnt wanna be here to go threw that...thx for the memories pudge...bring home sheffield!

Pudge needs to go back to Texas...

 

anyway I love the Sheff but he is being pretty greedy this offseason

 

"i got my rings, i want to get paid"

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nah i actually think sheff when the time comes will express his desire to come back to the marlins seeing on how he wants to come home and the devil rays said they will not go after him cuz of financial restraints i think sheff might actually take 2 or 3 mill less to play here again..srry pudge ur good but ur 10 mill u want aint worth it ill take sheff or vlad for that money anyday

Well, if he does leave for better offer, he is definately an a-hole in my book. :thumbdown

nah i actually think sheff when the time comes will express his desire to come back to the marlins seeing on how he wants to come home and the devil rays said they will not go after him cuz of financial restraints i think sheff might actually take 2 or 3 mill less to play here again..srry pudge ur good but ur 10 mill u want aint worth it ill take sheff or vlad for that money anyday

I never heard about that.

 

I thought he was looking for offers around the league, and if he didn't find anything in his liking, he would go back home to Tampa. I never heard anything about playing for the Marlins.

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i never said he was goin to play for us i said tampa already said they are not intrested and we are the closest to home after that so there u go...i dont think at his age will get alot of money elsewhere so this would be a logical yet improbable choice..i just love sheff so lets bring him home.

Gary Sheffield?! Come on! He's only the most arrogant a**hole in baseball! There's no way that he's coming back to the Marlins, I'd bet my life on that. Pudge is a humble guy, if he doesn't take the home discount, even though all the chances we ran with him in this season, Sheffield surely won't. Baseball is a business, Sheffield knows that, and he's out for money. Unfortunately, the marlins aren't going to be able to offer him 15 mill a year....the Yankees will.

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mmm its better to be silent and thought a fool than to open ur mouth and remove all doubt...u dont know jack! sheffield wont make 15 mill at his age..vlad will make the most on the market and it wont be 15 mill..second his arrogant days are long gone and is a humble veteran that has made plenty of money..no he wont go to the yanks cuz he wants to be close to home and he doesnt like the AL since he has never played there..so talk when u got all the info

second his arrogant days are long gone and is a humble veteran that has made plenty of money

:rolleyes:

 

:lol :lol :lol

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??? wuts with the smileys?? maybe u dont watch the braves but i do and he has done nothin but be the leader on that team the last 2 years

second his arrogant days are long gone and is a humble veteran that has made plenty of money

 

I don't know whether to LMAO or ROFLMFAO at that comment. :lol

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u can laugh all u want but id rather have sheff over pudge any day!

Sheffield has flat-out said he's going to whoever offers him the most money.

 

15 million is probably high though, I'd look for something like 9-11.

 

And I like Sheff, but to say his arrogant days are over and he's "humble" is flat-out funny.

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back up ur info! sheff is my fav player and follow everything about him and he has not came out and said that yet..ur goin by wut ppl said about him when he was in L.A. he hasnt had a problem or anything since hes been in ATL

again, Sheff said he IS GOING FOR THE MONEY

 

he doesnt need the rings, he has 1

 

he wants the money

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im not sayin anything but i want some 1 to post where he said that? i have yet to hear any of that.

How to rebuild the Yankees

By David Schoenfield

Page 2 Staff

 

 

 

"Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener."

 

-- Billy Martin

 

 

"Hating the Yankees isn't part of my act. It is one of those exquisite times when life and art are in perfect conjunction."

 

-- Bill Veeck

 

Here's the problem: the only cigar smoke the Yankees have seen lately was when Jack McKeon stumped out his Cuban on Mickey Mantle's plaque in Monument Park. Derek Jeter, after his Alvaro Espinoza-like performance in the final game of the World Series, hasn't been seen with a hottie cradled up next to him in weeks and is reportedly in search of another type of slumpbuster. The grass at Yankee Stadium has already turned brown.

 

 

All we want is to give the Yankees the opportunity to do this again.

 

 

And, most importantly, with this aging, decaying dynasty on the fringe of melting into mediocrity, WHO ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HATE IF THE YANKEES ARE BAD?

 

 

Baseball needs the Yankees. Baseball needs this battle of Good vs. George. Baseball needs an evil empire, a Darth Vader, an enemy to pursue, a team so hated that seeing it suffer from the heat of 96-mph fastballs fired by a cocky 23-year-old Texan with 17 career wins in the final game of the season just feels so perfect.

 

What, you want the Marlins playing the Twins in the World Series next year?

 

So, as George Steinbrenner and his cadre of lieutenants embark on the team's most significant offseason since Reggie Jackson was brought in to stir the drink, Page 2 is offering our advice on how to rebuild the Yankees. Consider it an act of charity for the good of the sport.

 

First, the crumbling nature of this dynasty needs to be made clear:

 

 

No World Series titles the past three seasons.

 

 

After winning 11 straight postseason series from 1998-2001, the Yankees are 2-3 in their last five. That's one less than the Marlins won just this year! And that team is owned by an art dealer!

 

 

It won't be easy filling Andy Pettitte's shoes once he signs with Houston.

 

 

 

Roger Clemens is retiring. David Wells is fat, old and heading elsewhere. Andy Pettitte, after the Astros' trade of Billy Wagner to clear some payroll, is checking out the finest private schools in the Greater Houston area.

 

 

A bullpen which cost more than several teams paid their entire rosters produced just one reliable reliever.

 

 

Alfonso Soriano can't turn the double play or lay off a slider in the dirt, Derek Jeter has no range, Bernie Williams can't throw, Jason Giambi has a creaky knee, Aaron Boone blinked in the bright lights of NYC, Happy Weaver has more hangers than your closet and Hideki Matsui has bad hair.

 

Luckily, Steinbrenner has some money to spend or this team would really be in trouble. (Although the Mets are a reminder that spending foolishly is a foolish thing to do.)

 

This past season, the Yankees' payroll was anywhere from $164 million (the total of the August 31 roster) to $185 million (the overall estimate, according to reports). If George is willing to spend that much on such an obviously flawed team, an increase to $200 million is not only possible but probable.

 

1. Move Jeter to third base and non-tender Boone. This may sound sacrilegious, sort of like saying Don Mattingly is overrated or that Thurman Munson wouldn't have made the Hall of Fame anyway, but with Miguel Tejada available on the free-agent market, it's time to move Jeter and get a better defensive shortstop. As captain, Jeter's ego surely won't get in the way.

 

 

Miguel: You won't be feeling so gloomy if you sign with the Yankees!

 

 

2. Sign Tejada to a five-year, $75 million contract.

 

3. Bernie Williams has lost three steps in center, throws like Pete Gray and is prone to injuries. Move him to DH, which makes Nick Johnson available for trade. (Yes, we'd prefer to trade Giambi, but he's as stuck as a pig in mud with his contract.)

 

4. Carlos Beltran is the popular rumor for center, but here's another suggestion: Jim Edmonds, who is available, signed through 2007 and owner of a left-handed stroke engineered for Yankee Stadium. The Yanks can swing a three-way trade that also brings in ?

 

5. ... Curt Schilling. Forget Javier Vazquez, another popular rumor. The Yanks need a Proven Postseason Pitcher -- like Schilling, who is available with the emergence of Brandon Webb in Arizona. With St. Louis looking for a first baseman (Tino Martinez is washed up), here's the deal: Nick Johnson and Arizona's Danny Bautista go to St. Louis, Edmonds and Schilling go to New York and Alfonso Soriano and Jeff Weaver go to Arizona.

 

 

Schilling brings World Series experience.

 

 

6. Which means signing a second baseman, preferably one who doesn't take two seconds to turn the deuce. In comes free agent Luis Castillo with a three-year, $21 million deal.

 

 

7. Sign Bartolo Colon. Why not? Five years, $70 million should do the trick.

 

8. Because Karim Garcia couldn't throw out Alex Gonzalez so ... Gary Sheffield, come on down to play right field: three years, $45 million sounds about right.

 

9. The bullpen needs a little shoring up so we suggest free agents Tim Worrell (2 years, $7 million) and lefty Ricardo Rincon (2 years, $5 million).

 

10. Sell Drew Henson ($12 million left on his contract) to the Houston Texans to raise additional capital.

 

Which leaves us with this roster (2004 salaries included):

 

The 2004 New York Yankees

The Lineup

Derek Jeter, 3B ($17.0M)

Jim Edmonds, CF ($9.0)

Gary Sheffield, RF ($15.0)

Jason Giambi, 1B ($12.5)

Bernie Williams, DH ($12.0)

Jorge Posada, C ($9.0)

Miguel Tejada, SS ($15.0)

Hideki Matsui, LF ($7.0)

Luis Castillo, 2B ($7.0) Starting Rotation

Mike Mussina ($16.0)

Curt Schilling ($12.0)

Bartolo Colon ($14.0)

Jose Contreras ($7.0)

Jon Lieber ($2.45)

Bullpen

Mariano Rivera ($10.89)

Steve Karsay ($5.0)

Tim Worrell ($3.5)

Ricardo Rincon ($2.5)

Chris Hammond ($2.4)

 

 

 

 

Here's the whole article for your enjoyment, Sheff #1...Apparently, according to ME and the ESPN ANALYSTS, YOU don't know s***! Don't talk if you don't know what the hell you're saying! :banghead

I propose the lynching of Sheff #1....he gave up on our Fish during the playoffs and now he tries to diss other fans! :thumbdown

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Any supporters???

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lol funny how u dont know s*** ! it doesnt say anywhere there that sheff said he wants the money and 2 that is a page strait out of page 2 of espn where everyone knows is all about unrealistic things..so try again

i was one of the first to be optomistic about pudge stayin when he brought up he would love to stay here and finish his career here...but the last couple days shows he said all that in the spurt of the moment..first he files for free agency..next when asked if he wanted to stay with the marlins he said "my agent is taking in the best offers from lots of teams and the marlins are just one of them"quoted from an herald article...also his agent is boras and has clearly said nothing about the supposed home town discount...i think he sees wut we all see that this year we will lose alot of talent if we dont get a stadium deal done and he doesnt wanna be here to go threw that...thx for the memories pudge...bring home sheffield!

Your postings are so incredibly opinionated that it hurts to read them. Where the heck do you get this half-cooked ideas from? How can you say that Pudge is only interested in the money while at the same time you want to bring Sheffield back, even thinking that he is going to accept a hometown discount? Does anybody else sees how inlogic this type of thinking really is? You are only talking about the most arrogant, gold-digging, lazy-a**, I-am-a-team-all-by-myself player in modern baseball second only to that punk egocentric of Barry Bonds. Why would he accept less money to play with us?

 

For your information, Pudge filed for free agency because it is a formality. There is a deadline to file and you simply have to do it. Teams have rights to negotiate until Nov 10. Also, would you mind when you quote from the Herald to provide the link to the article you refer to? Because I have read every single article in the Herald dealing with the Marlins from the past 2 weeks and I don't remember Pudge saying that... I take this for what it seems to be, another opinion based on non-existent facts. Wait and see, Pudge is going to stay. I believe he is a better human being than your stupid Sheffield would ever be. :thumbdown

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and das texan..shhhh....i never once said our season was over during the playoffs i just admited when a game was over and expressed dissapointment in the games we lost..so stop tryin to bring out things to prove a point

lol funny how u dont know s*** ! it doesnt say anywhere there that sheff said he wants the money and 2 that is a page strait out of page 2 of espn where everyone knows is all about unrealistic things..so try again

give me time, i will find your damn article

and das texan..shhhh....i never once said our season was over during the playoffs i just admited when a game was over and expressed dissapointment in the games we lost..so stop tryin to bring out things to prove a point

and in at least a couple of those games the marlins came back and won.

 

 

dont make me go back and search for those posts...when i get time i will.

mmm its better to be silent and thought a fool than to open ur mouth and remove all doubt...u dont know jack! sheffield wont make 15 mill at his age..vlad will make the most on the market and it wont be 15 mill..second his arrogant days are long gone and is a humble veteran that has made plenty of money..no he wont go to the yanks cuz he wants to be close to home and he doesnt like the AL since he has never played there..so talk when u got all the info

I guess you do have all the information... Are you a Sheffield's relative? :whistle

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