With Carroll, Gload, Coghlan, and Hermida all hitting and Stanton, Maybin, Lorenzo Scott, and others all hitting in the minors, the Marlins should trade Ross while his value is at it's peak. Right now, while he's in the middle of one his patented hot streaks is the perfect time. He obviously has interest as proven by the Braves inquiring about him before the McLouth trade so we could probably garner more than he's worth.

 

Any ideas for suitors?

No, I'll trade Hermida before I trade Ross. One hot streak again by Hermida doesn't give us le way (sp?) to trade guys like Ross, I feel is the true heart and soul of this team. We all know probably late 2010 we will see an outfield of Morrison, Maybin, Stanton, but we are going to milk Cody until we have to get rid of him in 2010, along with Hermida.

 

In all, trading Ross imo is showing that we are already giving up on the season with little true OFer depth imo to replace him.

No, I'll trade Hermida before I trade Ross. One hot streak again by Hermida doesn't give us le way (sp?) to trade guys like Ross, I feel is the true heart and soul of this team. We all know probably late 2010 we will see an outfield of Morrison, Maybin, Stanton, but we are going to milk Cody until we have to get rid of him in 2010, along with Hermida.

 

In all, trading Ross imo is showing that we are already giving up on the season with little true OFer depth imo to replace him.

 

Hermida's "hot streak" has lasted for most of the season.

No, I'll trade Hermida before I trade Ross. One hot streak again by Hermida doesn't give us le way (sp?) to trade guys like Ross, I feel is the true heart and soul of this team. We all know probably late 2010 we will see an outfield of Morrison, Maybin, Stanton, but we are going to milk Cody until we have to get rid of him in 2010, along with Hermida.

 

In all, trading Ross imo is showing that we are already giving up on the season with little true OFer depth imo to replace him.

 

Hermida's "hot streak" has lasted for most of the season.

 

 

really? I had no idea batting .254 in April and .270 with a .325 OBP in May is considered part of a "hot streak".

And for all of those people who wanted to use the fact that in 2008 Hermida was vastly better on the road and how being at home killed his stats, check out this year.

 

Home- .322 BA, .394 OBP, .843 OPS

Away- .227 BA, .351 OBP, .742 OPS

 

Actually has a worse slugging percentage by far on the road, with only 8 more AB's at home.

3 games back of the WC, no need to trade anybody now.............................Everyone knows what kind of player Cody is, I dont think this hot streak has really increased his trade value that much............If we are out of contention, come the trade deadline he will most likely be traded.

No, I'll trade Hermida before I trade Ross. One hot streak again by Hermida doesn't give us le way (sp?) to trade guys like Ross, I feel is the true heart and soul of this team. We all know probably late 2010 we will see an outfield of Morrison, Maybin, Stanton, but we are going to milk Cody until we have to get rid of him in 2010, along with Hermida.

 

In all, trading Ross imo is showing that we are already giving up on the season with little true OFer depth imo to replace him.

 

 

 

And Cody Ross isn't on a hot streak? We all know sooner or later he's going to go cold, real cold.

 

Now would be the perfect chance to trade him because his producing, but I would rather keep him. Our OF depth right now isn't so good, and we're competing.

No, I'll trade Hermida before I trade Ross. One hot streak again by Hermida doesn't give us le way (sp?) to trade guys like Ross, I feel is the true heart and soul of this team. We all know probably late 2010 we will see an outfield of Morrison, Maybin, Stanton, but we are going to milk Cody until we have to get rid of him in 2010, along with Hermida.

 

In all, trading Ross imo is showing that we are already giving up on the season with little true OFer depth imo to replace him.

 

Hermida's "hot streak" has lasted for most of the season.

 

 

really? I had no idea batting .254 in April and .270 with a .325 OBP in May is considered part of a "hot streak".

.411 OBP in April and he was on base in all but eight games in May. It took Ross nine games in April to get over .200. Ross is also four years older than Hermida.

 

Good try, though.

the fact is that he wasn't hitting. As an outfielder Hermida needs to hit, having a .254 BA in the month of April with a grand total of 9 RBI's is terrible.

 

Tell me, do we really know yet what kind of hitter Hermida is? Don't come out with the "typical 2 hitter" crap, because he still strikes out 3 times more than he walks.

 

 

Thing about Cody Ross is that you see since the beginnning of the season, he has increased dramatically in all of his total stats. Trading the hot bat right now for "prospects" once again shows that the ownership gives up on the team.

the fact is that he wasn't hitting. As an outfielder Hermida needs to hit, having a .254 BA in the month of April with a grand total of 9 RBI's is terrible.

 

Tell me, do we really know yet what kind of hitter Hermida is? Don't come out with the "typical 2 hitter" crap, because he still strikes out 3 times more than he walks.

 

 

Thing about Cody Ross is that you see since the beginnning of the season, he has increased dramatically in all of his total stats. Trading the hot bat right now for "prospects" once again shows that the ownership gives up on the team.

 

So average > OBP? So I guess you'd start this year's Emilio Bonifacio (.244) in left field over last year's Adam Dunn (.236)?

 

And Hermida strikes out three times more than he walks? His 54-33 K-BB this year could've fooled me. Maybe you're thinking of Cody who has a 51-14 K-BB.

Tell me, do we really know yet what kind of hitter Hermida is? Don't come out with the "typical 2 hitter" crap, because he still strikes out 3 times more than he walks.

 

 

You do realize he has a 0.61 BB/K?

Tell me, do we really know yet what kind of hitter Hermida is? Don't come out with the "typical 2 hitter" crap, because he still strikes out 3 times more than he walks.

 

 

You do realize he has a 0.61 BB/K?

And Cody's is 0.27. Guess he just got them mixed up for a second.

So are we supposed to completely ignore Hermida's 138 K's to 48 BB's in 2008 and 105 K's to 47 BB's in 2007?

With Carroll, Gload, Coghlan, and Hermida all hitting and Stanton, Maybin, Lorenzo Scott, and others all hitting in the minors, the Marlins should trade Ross while his value is at it's peak. Right now, while he's in the middle of one his patented hot streaks is the perfect time. He obviously has interest as proven by the Braves inquiring about him before the McLouth trade so we could probably garner more than he's worth.

 

Any ideas for suitors?

 

 

Ross cannot be traded until we are sure we have a CF replacement. Quite frankly he has one of the highest values to the team right now because at every other position besides C and SS we have the depth to replace them with a good enough bat.

 

Maybin is not really doing that well in the minors. He's still hitting a ton of GBs (62%), he's not hitting for much power (.127 ISO), and he's BB/K is not impressive for a guy in AAA who's suppose to be big league ready (0.47). The one thing he has going for him is his strikeout % (16.5%), but so far it's been at the cost of the rest of his game. When he shows he can keep that strike out percent while keeping his game in other areas at the high level they should be at, then he can be called up. Until then, we should keep him down. He's 22 years old.

 

And Lorenzo Scott is not somebody to bank on lol. He's having a nice year, but it's also his first nice year and he's 27 years old in AA.

So are we supposed to completely ignore Hermida's 138 K's to 48 BB's in 2008 and 105 K's to 47 BB's in 2007?

 

2008 Cody: 116/33

 

And again, Cody is four years older.

 

What's your argument?

Are we really giving up on this season already? This thread is about a month and a half premature.

So are we supposed to completely ignore Hermida's 138 K's to 48 BB's in 2008 and 105 K's to 47 BB's in 2007?

 

 

Players BB/K very very VERY often raises as they gain more MLB experience. You can look at almost any player and see it. For someone of his age, it especially should be rising.

the fact is that he wasn't hitting. As an outfielder Hermida needs to hit, having a .254 BA in the month of April with a grand total of 9 RBI's is terrible.

 

Tell me, do we really know yet what kind of hitter Hermida is? Don't come out with the "typical 2 hitter" crap, because he still strikes out 3 times more than he walks.

 

 

Thing about Cody Ross is that you see since the beginnning of the season, he has increased dramatically in all of his total stats. Trading the hot bat right now for "prospects" once again shows that the ownership gives up on the team.

 

So average > OBP? So I guess you'd start this year's Emilio Bonifacio (.244) in left field over last year's Adam Dunn (.236)?

 

And Hermida strikes out three times more than he walks? His 54-33 K-BB this year could've fooled me. Maybe you're thinking of Cody who has a 51-14 K-BB.

 

 

great comparison. A home run hitter a leadoff hitter. It's funny because Bonifacio should be getting such a higher batting average.

 

Add to that Dunn's home runs, RBI's, and OPS, and obviously Dunn is better. Thing is Hermida is currently batting around the middle of the batting order, he should be producing twice as many RBI's as he currently is. Yes use the excuse "nobody gets on base ahead of him", but actually Hermida has had a good amount of RBI opportunities, I'm glad he's starting to hit, but earlier this year he was taking walks instead of trying to get the RBI's, and before this year he was just striking out without really walking much.

So are we supposed to completely ignore Hermida's 138 K's to 48 BB's in 2008 and 105 K's to 47 BB's in 2007?

 

2008 Cody: 116/33

 

And again, Cody is four years older.

 

What's your argument?

 

 

my argument is that Cody has actually shown consistant stats throughout his career despite the hot and cold streaks.

 

Ya'll still have your brains wrapped believing that Hermida is bound to have a breakout year both offensively and defensively, and seem to find it very hard to admit that Hermida is nothing more than an average player who has no long term plans on this team.

And Ross is more than an average player?

 

Also you said before to be a consistent hitter you need to put up consistent numbers month to month. Now it's only year to year? Or does it change depending on if you want to call a guy consistent or not?

the fact is that he wasn't hitting. As an outfielder Hermida needs to hit, having a .254 BA in the month of April with a grand total of 9 RBI's is terrible.

 

Tell me, do we really know yet what kind of hitter Hermida is? Don't come out with the "typical 2 hitter" crap, because he still strikes out 3 times more than he walks.

 

 

Thing about Cody Ross is that you see since the beginnning of the season, he has increased dramatically in all of his total stats. Trading the hot bat right now for "prospects" once again shows that the ownership gives up on the team.

 

So average > OBP? So I guess you'd start this year's Emilio Bonifacio (.244) in left field over last year's Adam Dunn (.236)?

 

And Hermida strikes out three times more than he walks? His 54-33 K-BB this year could've fooled me. Maybe you're thinking of Cody who has a 51-14 K-BB.

 

 

great comparison. A home run hitter a leadoff hitter. It's funny because Bonifacio should be getting such a higher batting average.

 

Add to that Dunn's home runs, RBI's, and OPS, and obviously Dunn is better. Thing is Hermida is currently batting around the middle of the batting order, he should be producing twice as many RBI's as he currently is. Yes use the excuse "nobody gets on base ahead of him", but actually Hermida has had a good amount of RBI opportunities, I'm glad he's starting to hit, but earlier this year he was taking walks instead of trying to get the RBI's, and before this year he was just striking out without really walking much.

I can give you another one. How about Gregor Blanco? .251 average last year and a .366 OBP. Homers? One.

 

And Hermida is hitting behind Cantu who is 7 for his last 32 (.218) and his May was horrific so that argument holds some validity.

where does Blanco bat in the order? If its right before the pitcher that .366 OBP makes completely perfect sense, and is a poor stat to use.

where does Blanco bat in the order? If its right before the pitcher that .366 OBP makes completely perfect sense, and is a poor stat to use.

 

The majority of Blanco's ABs came in the lead-off spot last year (234).

I guess they feared Kelly Johnson #2 .....wow chills just ran up my spine!

well in those 234 AB's by Blanco, he only scored 30 times in 63 games. Emilio Bonifacio, with over .100 less of an OBP, has only 4 less runs scored in 211 AB's.