well in those 234 AB's by Blanco, he only scored 30 times in 63 games. Emilio Bonifacio, with over .100 less of an OBP, has only 4 less runs scored in 211 AB's.

 

As Coby eluded to, he had the marvelous .322 OBP of Kelly Johnson hitting behind him. And Bonifacio is a much faster runner.

the Doublemint twins(double plays) which consist of Kelly Johnson and Yunel Escobar who batted #2 most of the season pretty much shot down any chance of Chipper knocking him in.

McClouth

Kotchman

Chipper

McCann

Diaz vs Lhp - Anderson vs Rhp

Escobar

Francoeur

Johnson

 

 

if bobby would ever listen to me we would win!

No, I'll trade Hermida before I trade Ross. One hot streak again by Hermida doesn't give us le way (sp?) to trade guys like Ross, I feel is the true heart and soul of this team. We all know probably late 2010 we will see an outfield of Morrison, Maybin, Stanton, but we are going to milk Cody until we have to get rid of him in 2010, along with Hermida.

 

In all, trading Ross imo is showing that we are already giving up on the season with little true OFer depth imo to replace him.

 

Hermida's "hot streak" has lasted for most of the season.

 

 

really? I had no idea batting .254 in April and .270 with a .325 OBP in May is considered part of a "hot streak".

 

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No, I'll trade Hermida before I trade Ross. One hot streak again by Hermida doesn't give us le way (sp?) to trade guys like Ross, I feel is the true heart and soul of this team. We all know probably late 2010 we will see an outfield of Morrison, Maybin, Stanton, but we are going to milk Cody until we have to get rid of him in 2010, along with Hermida.

 

In all, trading Ross imo is showing that we are already giving up on the season with little true OFer depth imo to replace him.

 

Hermida's "hot streak" has lasted for most of the season.

 

 

really? I had no idea batting .254 in April and .270 with a .325 OBP in May is considered part of a "hot streak".

 

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well in those 234 AB's by Blanco, he only scored 30 times in 63 games. Emilio Bonifacio, with over .100 less of an OBP, has only 4 less runs scored in 211 AB's.

 

As Coby eluded to, he had the marvelous .322 OBP of Kelly Johnson hitting behind him. And Bonifacio is a much faster runner.

 

So now, Dim, you've used Batting Average, RBI, and f**** Runs Scored to talk about a player's value. Dude.

With Carroll, Gload, Coghlan, and Hermida all hitting and Stanton, Maybin, Lorenzo Scott, and others all hitting in the minors, the Marlins should trade Ross while his value is at it's peak. Right now, while he's in the middle of one his patented hot streaks is the perfect time. He obviously has interest as proven by the Braves inquiring about him before the McLouth trade so we could probably garner more than he's worth.

 

Any ideas for suitors?

 

 

Ross cannot be traded until we are sure we have a CF replacement. Quite frankly he has one of the highest values to the team right now because at every other position besides C and SS we have the depth to replace them with a good enough bat.

 

Maybin is not really doing that well in the minors. He's still hitting a ton of GBs (62%), he's not hitting for much power (.127 ISO), and he's BB/K is not impressive for a guy in AAA who's suppose to be big league ready (0.47). The one thing he has going for him is his strikeout % (16.5%), but so far it's been at the cost of the rest of his game. When he shows he can keep that strike out percent while keeping his game in other areas at the high level they should be at, then he can be called up. Until then, we should keep him down. He's 22 years old.

 

And Lorenzo Scott is not somebody to bank on lol. He's having a nice year, but it's also his first nice year and he's 27 years old in AA.

Thanks for presenting a good argument.

 

As for Maybin's strikeout percentage, it's not like he'd be replacing a big walks guy when he came back up and it's not like we need him to lead off right now with the way Coghlan has been hitting so if he swung a little more freely while he got used to MLB pitching, I wouldn't mind. That's not to say I want to see the same Maybin we saw in April, just that a heightened K total wouldn't bother me as long as he's getting on base at around the league average clip of whatever spot in the order we put him in (probably 6th-8th) and right now, I think he could do that.

 

Of course all of this depends on where we are in the standings but I wouldn't object to on-the-job training should we fall out, especially if, like I said, we can get more than what Ross is worth.

well in those 234 AB's by Blanco, he only scored 30 times in 63 games. Emilio Bonifacio, with over .100 less of an OBP, has only 4 less runs scored in 211 AB's.

 

As Coby eluded to, he had the marvelous .322 OBP of Kelly Johnson hitting behind him. And Bonifacio is a much faster runner.

 

So now, Dim, you've used Batting Average, RBI, and f**** Runs Scored to talk about a player's value. Dude.

 

 

scoring runs means absolutely nothing? Really? Yes I understand you need people behind you, but a big part of being a leadoff man is getting yourself in position to score runs.

well in those 234 AB's by Blanco, he only scored 30 times in 63 games. Emilio Bonifacio, with over .100 less of an OBP, has only 4 less runs scored in 211 AB's.

 

As Coby eluded to, he had the marvelous .322 OBP of Kelly Johnson hitting behind him. And Bonifacio is a much faster runner.

 

So now, Dim, you've used Batting Average, RBI, and f**** Runs Scored to talk about a player's value. Dude.

 

 

scoring runs means absolutely nothing? Really? Yes I understand you need people behind you, but a big part of being a leadoff man is getting yourself in position to score runs.

 

And how does one get oneself in a "position to score runs"?

 

Oh yeah. By getting on base.

the original point is how Hermida is in a spot where it is more important to get hits and to get the important RBI's than it is to walk.

the original point is how Hermida is in a spot where it is more important to get hits and to get the important RBI's than it is to walk.

 

 

 

 

And that's his fault how? Also, don't make PWG pull out his numbers in high leverage, RISP, and close and late situations. He's tearing the cover off the ball in those situations.

 

But that was a classic "avoid the issue and change the subject once I realize I'm wrong" maneuver. Well played. You've fooled me and everyone else.

And who's fault is it for putting Hermida in a spot in the lineup that doesn't suit him? Or didn't suit him, because he's on fire now.

the original point is how Hermida is in a spot where it is more important to get hits and to get the important RBI's than it is to walk.

 

 

 

 

And that's his fault how? Also, don't make PWG pull out his numbers in high leverage, RISP, and close and late situations. He's tearing the cover off the ball in those situations.

 

But that was a classic "avoid the issue and change the subject once I realize I'm wrong" maneuver. Well played. You've fooled me and everyone else.

You mean these?

 

High leverage: .348/.444/.609/1.053

RISP: .300/.417/.480/.897

Late and close: .317/.417/.585/1.002

the original point is how Hermida is in a spot where it is more important to get hits and to get the important RBI's than it is to walk.

 

 

 

 

And that's his fault how? Also, don't make PWG pull out his numbers in high leverage, RISP, and close and late situations. He's tearing the cover off the ball in those situations.

 

But that was a classic "avoid the issue and change the subject once I realize I'm wrong" maneuver. Well played. You've fooled me and everyone else.

You mean these?

 

High leverage: .348/.444/.609/1.053

RISP: .300/.417/.480/.897

Late and close: .317/.417/.585/1.002

 

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Dude, stop having orgasms over each other, srsly. With RISP Cody has nearly identical numbers. I don't have the late and close numbers and have no f*cking idea what you are talking about with "High Leverage" mr smarty pants, but the point you are trying to make that Hermida is 10X better than Ross is wrong

Dude, stop having orgasms over each other, srsly. With RISP Cody has nearly identical numbers. I don't have the late and close numbers and have no f*cking idea what you are talking about with "High Leverage" mr smarty pants, but the point you are trying to make that Hermida is 10X better than Ross is wrong

 

 

.250 BA =/= .300 BA, .343 OBP =/= .417 OBP.

 

And whoever said Hermida is 10x better than Ross? Your argument had nothing to do with Ross. As you said, your original point was, and I quote, that Hermida doesn't put himself in a position to score runs. As you can see, you're wrong.

Dim, calm down dude. You lost an argument, just deal with it. You don't have to attack someone.

With Carroll, Gload, Coghlan, and Hermida all hitting and Stanton, Maybin, Lorenzo Scott, and others all hitting in the minors, the Marlins should trade Ross while his value is at it's peak. Right now, while he's in the middle of one his patented hot streaks is the perfect time. He obviously has interest as proven by the Braves inquiring about him before the McLouth trade so we could probably garner more than he's worth.

 

Any ideas for suitors?

 

 

Ross cannot be traded until we are sure we have a CF replacement. Quite frankly he has one of the highest values to the team right now because at every other position besides C and SS we have the depth to replace them with a good enough bat.

 

Maybin is not really doing that well in the minors. He's still hitting a ton of GBs (62%), he's not hitting for much power (.127 ISO), and he's BB/K is not impressive for a guy in AAA who's suppose to be big league ready (0.47). The one thing he has going for him is his strikeout % (16.5%), but so far it's been at the cost of the rest of his game. When he shows he can keep that strike out percent while keeping his game in other areas at the high level they should be at, then he can be called up. Until then, we should keep him down. He's 22 years old.

 

And Lorenzo Scott is not somebody to bank on lol. He's having a nice year, but it's also his first nice year and he's 27 years old in AA.

Thanks for presenting a good argument.

 

As for Maybin's strikeout percentage, it's not like he'd be replacing a big walks guy when he came back up and it's not like we need him to lead off right now with the way Coghlan has been hitting so if he swung a little more freely while he got used to MLB pitching, I wouldn't mind. That's not to say I want to see the same Maybin we saw in April, just that a heightened K total wouldn't bother me as long as he's getting on base at around the league average clip of whatever spot in the order we put him in (probably 6th-8th) and right now, I think he could do that.

 

Of course all of this depends on where we are in the standings but I wouldn't object to on-the-job training should we fall out, especially if, like I said, we can get more than what Ross is worth.

 

I'd much rather have Maybin in the minors until he is ready. There's no reason to break him so that he can put up an ok line at the ML level right now. We need him to smash faces. He is not ready to smash faces. He needs to learn to smash faces before he can smash faces.

With Carroll, Gload, Coghlan, and Hermida all hitting and Stanton, Maybin, Lorenzo Scott, and others all hitting in the minors, the Marlins should trade Ross while his value is at it's peak. Right now, while he's in the middle of one his patented hot streaks is the perfect time. He obviously has interest as proven by the Braves inquiring about him before the McLouth trade so we could probably garner more than he's worth.

 

Any ideas for suitors?

 

 

Ross cannot be traded until we are sure we have a CF replacement. Quite frankly he has one of the highest values to the team right now because at every other position besides C and SS we have the depth to replace them with a good enough bat.

 

Maybin is not really doing that well in the minors. He's still hitting a ton of GBs (62%), he's not hitting for much power (.127 ISO), and he's BB/K is not impressive for a guy in AAA who's suppose to be big league ready (0.47). The one thing he has going for him is his strikeout % (16.5%), but so far it's been at the cost of the rest of his game. When he shows he can keep that strike out percent while keeping his game in other areas at the high level they should be at, then he can be called up. Until then, we should keep him down. He's 22 years old.

 

And Lorenzo Scott is not somebody to bank on lol. He's having a nice year, but it's also his first nice year and he's 27 years old in AA.

Thanks for presenting a good argument.

 

As for Maybin's strikeout percentage, it's not like he'd be replacing a big walks guy when he came back up and it's not like we need him to lead off right now with the way Coghlan has been hitting so if he swung a little more freely while he got used to MLB pitching, I wouldn't mind. That's not to say I want to see the same Maybin we saw in April, just that a heightened K total wouldn't bother me as long as he's getting on base at around the league average clip of whatever spot in the order we put him in (probably 6th-8th) and right now, I think he could do that.

 

Of course all of this depends on where we are in the standings but I wouldn't object to on-the-job training should we fall out, especially if, like I said, we can get more than what Ross is worth.

 

I'd much rather have Maybin in the minors until he is ready. There's no reason to break him so that he can put up an ok line at the ML level right now. We need him to smash faces. He is not ready to smash faces. He needs to learn to smash faces before he can smash faces.

As you said, he's 22. The face smashing will come, I'm confident in that. But if he needs some time getting accommodated to major league pitching, which I still maintain is what he needed from the start, I have no problem with that.

If he only needed to adjust to ML pitching, he'd be smashing faces in AAA rather than "struggling" like he is though.

I'd much rather see him smash baseballs than faces.

If he only needed to adjust to ML pitching, he'd be smashing faces in AAA rather than "struggling" like he is though.

 

Either way, I think he'll be good to go by the end of the AAA season.

If he only needed to adjust to ML pitching, he'd be smashing faces in AAA rather than "struggling" like he is though.

 

Either way, I think he'll be good to go by the end of the AAA season.

 

Oh, I agree, from the sounds of it though, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that you wanted Maybin up now (or, well, more specifically, that it's ok to trade Ross right now because Maybin oould be called up right now).