June 17, 200917 yr Call me a conspiracy theorist all you want: this is about common sense. Call me crazy, but we have nations nuking up yet we are worried about CYBER ATTACKS!?!? HAHA. During a recession the government hires 40,000 computer hackers with your tax money! The government power trip continues as they will filter the internet soon enough.... Wanted: Computer hackers ... for hire Feds call for so-called ethical hackers to help secure government networks From YAHOO and WASHINGTON AP The Department of Homeland Security is recruiting hackers to help feds "think like the bad guy."Tech-savvy students, take heed: Computer hackers are wanted by federal authorities, but not for prosecution. Instead, the government is looking to hire so-called "white hat" hackers to secure the nation's networks. General Dynamics Information Technology put out an ad last month on behalf of the Homeland Security Department seeking someone who could "think like the bad guy." Applicants, it said, must understand hackers' tools and tactics and be able to analyze internet traffic and identify vulnerabilities in the federal systems. In the Pentagon's budget request submitted last week, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the Pentagon will increase the number of cyber experts it can train each year from 80 to 250 by 2011. With warnings that the U.S. is ill-prepared for a cyber attack, the White House conducted a 60-day study of how the government can better manage and use technology to protect everything from the electrical grid and stock markets to tax data, airline flight systems, and nuclear launch codes. President Barack Obama appointed a former Bush administration aide, Melissa Hathaway, to head the effort, and her report was delivered April 17, the White House said. Although the country had detailed plans for floods, fires, or errant planes drifting into protected airspace, there is no similar response etched out for a major computer attack. David Powner, director of technology issues for the Government Accountability Office, told Congress last month that the U.S. has no recovery plan for a digital disaster. "We're clearly not as prepared as we should be," he said. Administration officials says the U.S. has not kept pace with technological innovations needed to protect its computer networks against emerging threats from hackers, criminals, or other nations looking for national security secrets. U.S. computer networks, including those at the Pentagon and other federal agencies, are under persistent attacks, ranging from nuisance hacking to more nefarious assaults, possibly from other nations, such as China. Industry leaders told Congress during a recent hearing that law enforcement and other protections are too outdated to fend off threats from criminals, terrorists, and foreign nations. Just last week, a former government official revealed that spies had hacked into the U.S. electric grid and left behind computer programs that would let them disrupt service. The intrusions were discovered after electric companies gave the government permission to audit their systems, said the ex-official, who was not authorized to discuss the matter and spoke on condition of anonymity. Cyber threats are also included as a key potential national security risk outlined in a classified report put together by Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Pentagon officials say they spent more than $100 million in the last six months responding to and repairing damage from cyber attacks and other computer network problems. Nadia Short, vice president at General Dynamics Advanced Information Systems, said the job posting for ethical hackers fills a critical need for the government. The analysts keep constant watch on the government networks as part of a program called Einstein that was initiated by the Bush administration under the U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team. Short said the $60 million, four-year contract with US-CERT uses the ethical hackers to analyze threats to the government's computer systems and develop ways to reduce vulnerabilities. Faced with such cyber challenges, Obama ordered the 60-day review to examine how federal agencies manage and protect their massive amounts of data and what the government's role should be in guarding the vast networks that control the country's vital utilities and infrastructure. Over the past two months, Hathaway met with hundreds of industry leaders, Capitol Hill staff, and other experts, seeking guidance on what the federal government's role should be in protecting information networks against an attack. She sought recommendations on how officials should define and report cyber incidents and attacks; how the government should structure its cyber oversight; and how the nation can increase security without stifling innovation. A task force of technology giants, including representatives from General Dynamics, IBM, Lockheed Martin, and Hewlett-Packard Co., urged the administration to establish a White House-level official to lead cyber efforts and to develop ways to share information on problems more quickly with the private sector. The administration has struggled with the basics, such as who should control the nation's cyberspace programs. There appears to be some agreement now that the White House should coordinate the overall effort, rejecting suggestions that the National Security Agency take it on--a plan that triggered protests on Capitol Hill and from civil liberties groups worried about giving such control to spy agencies.
June 17, 200917 yr There is nothing about hiring '40,000 hackers' in that article. It says the dept of homeland security is going to increase their ability to train from 80 to 250 per year.
June 17, 200917 yr Author "Short said the $60 million, four-year contract with US-CERT uses the so-called ethical hackers to analyze threats to the government's computer systems and develop ways to reduce vulnerabilities." So the government pulls 60 mil out to examine threats to computers? Seriously, when does this end? Where does this money come from? Why does the government tax us anyway when they can just print what they want?
June 17, 200917 yr Good response to my question, dumb ass. 60 million is literally f***ing nothing to the government.
June 17, 200917 yr Also, if you'd read the story, you'd see the pentagon has had to spend 100 million in the last 6 months repairing their systems from attacks. Now, they are trying to spend money to preemptively stop the attacks. Oh no, they takin over!!?
June 17, 200917 yr Author Again you don't get the point bobbob. You just get angry because all of this is over your head. While the unemployment rate is nearing 10% (9.4%), and Americans are struggling to get by, the government is SPENDING at obsene rates never seen in the history of mankind. I'm sorry man but why does the government continue to print money and deflate the dollar? 60 mil? 100 mil? For cyber attacks? Give me a break. You can cuss all you want instead of having an intelligent conversation but this is pointless. A revolt will happen soon enough when all this continues. We have the government increasing tolls! We have the government spending money for RED LIGHT RUNNER CAMERAS! During a recession! ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE NOT NEEDED! The only thing needed are private business's to be created again. Not the government taking everything over and spending, spending, spending. How do you justify Barack Obama spending more money in 5 months than 203 YEARS of Presidents combined?????? During a recession????? Please answer that question and I'll leave forever......You can't answer it. It's called control.
June 17, 200917 yr No Comment, but the internet has taken over the world, in a good way, it can take over the world in a bad way.
June 17, 200917 yr 203 years of presidents? You bad at math. How do I answer that question? They believe the economic theory that states that you can artificially kick start the economy by pumping government money into it. That's why. Tada!
June 17, 200917 yr Author You can not artificially kick start an economy by bailing out companies, taking over companies, taking over health care so small business owners can not survive. This is proven by nearly every economist. Artifically creating money OUT of thin air the worst thing the Federal Reserve can do. Every single person knows this. The Fed is intelligent and they know this. They have an agenda and that is appartent to most people (hence the 237 Tea Parties and counting...). So you believe the government should control health care, the auto industry, and banks? You believe and want the government to TELL YOU how much money you are ALLOWED to make? And tax you 25% on it? Bye bye America. Bye bye Capitalism. Hello, Fascism.
June 17, 200917 yr You're dumb. I never said I agree with it, just that that is their reasoning. And I can show you economists who believe this is the right plan of action, by you'd just ignore it anyways.
June 17, 200917 yr Author haha bobbob calling me dumb instead of showing me facts or economists opinions? NO WAY! Resorting to name calling because you are in the minority in favoring TRILLIONS of spending during a recession is not the way to communicate. To spend more than the United States has EVER in the history of the United States in just 5 months in office is just mind blowing to me. Things are getting worse, not better. In case you haven't noticed. But show me some facts about why things are getting better instead of saying I'm dumb. hahaha!
June 17, 200917 yr Wild I'm going to start limiting your posting rights in the bullpen if you keep this up.
June 17, 200917 yr Wild I'm going to start limiting your posting rights in the bullpen if you keep this up. Keep what up???? Opening the eyes of all you sheeeps?? Goodbye, marlinbaseball.com, hello fascism!
June 17, 200917 yr Im for the Public health insurance plan. For the uninsured, its better then no insurance at all, and it will keep the private healthcare plans Cheaper, and that means more people have peace of mind, like obama said, if you like your healthplan, great. But we have to give people a Cheap way to get insurance.
June 18, 200917 yr Author The guy who's scared by Muslims is calling someone else fascist? Who's scared of Muslims? I have 6 Muslim friends. You should be a politian for making things up. Also, read the defination of facist so you can understand what it means.
June 18, 200917 yr The guy who's scared by Muslims is calling someone else fascist? Who's scared of Muslims? I have 6 Muslim friends. You should be a politian for making things up. Also, read the defination of facist so you can understand what it means. Someone else must have posted this: http://www.marlinsbaseball.com/forums/topic/88621-muslim-demographics-scary/
June 18, 200917 yr Author The guy who's scared by Muslims is calling someone else fascist? Who's scared of Muslims? I have 6 Muslim friends. You should be a politian for making things up. Also, read the defination of facist so you can understand what it means. Someone else must have posted this: http://www.marlinsbaseball.com/forums/topic/88621-muslim-demographics-scary/ You are the master of putting words in people's mouths! Never have I been scared of Muslims. It was an interesting video full of facts. Something you never seem to do is show facts.
June 18, 200917 yr The guy who's scared by Muslims is calling someone else fascist? Who's scared of Muslims? I have 6 Muslim friends. You should be a politian for making things up. Also, read the defination of facist so you can understand what it means. Someone else must have posted this: http://www.marlinsbaseball.com/forums/topic/88621-muslim-demographics-scary/ You are the master of putting words in people's mouths! Never have I been scared of Muslims. It was an interesting video full of facts. Something you never seem to do is show facts. I'm still wondering where your '10,000 hackers' and '203 years' 'facts' came from. When I've asked, you've ignored me.
June 21, 200917 yr While I think the Department of Homeland Security should never have been created and should be abolished, I see no problems with money going to the Pentagon to tighten defense computers if they think their systems are at risk. I agree that we need to radically cut spending but there are thousands of examples of more ridiculous spending, in terms of both their nature and their magnitude. I would be much more concerned that we are passing a massive supplemental bill to spend even more money on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We need to GTFO out of Afghanistan and Iraq already, and I have been arguing for years now that DHS is a huge waste of money. Although I will say that they were dead-on in their assessment a few months ago that there was going to be a large rise in right wing violent extremism because of Obama's election.
June 25, 200917 yr FACT: The government is going to spend $60 million over four years to hire hackers to secure their networks. FACT: The government spent $100 million repairing their network in the past 5 months. what is wrong with that? they are trying to save money! It's pretty ironic that you are calling everyone in this thread a sheep.
June 25, 200917 yr FACT: The government is going to spend $60 million over four years to hire hackers to secure their networks. FACT: The government spent $100 million repairing their network in the past 5 months. what is wrong with that? they are trying to save money! It's pretty ironic that you are calling everyone in this thread a sheep. Don't use logic with him, he think Obama is going to bring back slavery. Seriously.
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