December 18, 200322 yr Author Well, now that you mentioned that. Remember "The Last Temptation of Christ"? This is when the Catholics and other Christians came out and blatantly labeled the movie as "blasphemy". They gave the writer and director all the credit for nothing. I saw it, it was nothing but pure crap. However, I did not go into the movie thinking it was a direct attack on the Christian faith. I took it for what it was. Someone's creative idea of a "what if?" context. However, the acting was so bad it made me cry and the plot was so boring I fell asleep in the middle of it. I would have never heard of it if it wasn't because of all the turmoil the religious fanatics made about it.
December 18, 200322 yr Author Now, the Muslims *sighs, takes deep breath*. There was not much said about them, because until September 11, you did not even know where the hell Afghanistan or Iraq were... So there you go! If a movie would have come out before September 11 talking about the prophet Mohammed and the Muslims martirs,etc. It would have tanked. You did not give a crap about Arabs and their faith before you even knew they had the intention of coming into America and do what they did. I am certain many are working on their movie scripts as we speak... So just wait and be patient.
December 18, 200322 yr Juanky, I know where you are coming from. However, the crussades is not something Christians should be proud of. Our forefathers inflicted much pain and suffering in the name of God. There are many more movies coming out on the holocaust because it was the most horrific event in human history. Many people are tired of seeing movies made about it, but some cannot forget it, it is just too painful. I am not Jewish, but I still cry when I see one of such movies. So much pain, so much hate for nothing. All for the vanity of one man. There are much more movies criticizing the Christian religion because our religion has been used to create all kinds of brutal events in history, such as the Crussades, the Inquisition and in some part The Holocaust. Well the Crusades was more of just an example of a major event in Christian history that goes unattended. I'm all for remember the Holocaust. It is important that we keep reminding people of it so it never happens again. But quite frankly, we can't do it how we do it now, at the expense of other major events that are similar to it in nature. You don't see any movies on the genocide in Yugoslavia, or the mass murders in Cuba or Korea, or the Mongolian massacres. Just the Holocaust. I hate to inform everyone, but Hitler was not the only leader to murder innocent people. I would venture to say that if you adjusted things for difference in period and the like, that Genghis and his boys did just as much (and some argue more) damage. Ivan the Terrible, Bloody Mary, Juana la Loca. There are many, many people who have done terrible things but Hitler is the only one remembered. Perfect example of this: Nero persecuted Christians left and right (he also appointed his favorite horse Senator and played the Violin while he watched his own city burn (his doing). But any mention of him? Maybe in a made for TV movie. There is no Schindler's List equivalent for Nero's persecutions, but no one cares because there aren't enough people in Hollywood that are for equal showings or have enough power to voice their opinions for the general public to find out. So as far as the American public is concerned, the Jews and Blacks are the only two groups that have ever had anything done to them.
December 18, 200322 yr Now, the Muslims *sighs, takes deep breath*. There was not much said about them, because until September 11, you did not even know where the hell Afghanistan or Iraq were... So there you go! If a movie would have come out before September 11 talking about the prophet Mohammed and the Muslims martirs,etc. It would have tanked. You did not give a crap about Arabs and their faith before you even knew they had the intention of coming into America and do what they did. I am certain many are working on their movie scripts as we speak... So just wait and be patient. Not so, I choose to on my own avoid the lesser educated (majority) sector of the American population.
December 18, 200322 yr You don't see any movies on the genocide in Yugoslavia, or the mass murders in Cuba or Korea Uh, The Bond flick "die another day" talks about genocide in north korea (but a movie should actually be made about it), and THERE WAS a movie about the mass murders in yugoslavia- it was out a year and a half ago and ti had that guy from meet the parents who was the girls ex-fiance, I can't remember the movie's name, it came out after 9-11. Just the Holocaust. I hate to inform everyone, but Hitler was not the only leader to murder innocent people. I would venture to say that if you adjusted things for difference in period and the like, that Genghis and his boys did just as much (and some argue more) damage. Ivan the Terrible, Bloody Mary, Juana la Loca. There are many, many people who have done terrible things but Hitler is the only one remembered. Hitler was the most recent, and because ti is modern, it tears at our hearts more and sells more movie tickets. Perfect example of this: Nero persecuted Christians left and right (he also appointed his favorite horse Senator and played the Violin while he watched his own city burn (his doing). But any mention of him? Maybe in a made for TV movie. There is no Schindler's List equivalent for Nero's persecutions, but no one cares because there aren't enough people in Hollywood that are for equal showings or have enough power to voice their opinions for the general public to find out. So as far as the American public is concerned, the Jews and Blacks are the only two groups that have ever had anything done to them. It was too long ago for them to care to make a big movie about it. There have been movies that touched on roman persecution, but we don;t find that relevant today. Today we have the movies like Behind enemy lines (genocide in yugosalavia), bowling for columbine (which makes ti like america has hurt everybody), and etc. However, nothing has the lure to it like the holocaust. There are more holocaust films than slavery movies. It tears at us- a modern society, fighting the biggest war in history, systematically killing a race of people in killing factories. "Killing factories" have a stronger lure than a bunch of guys with swords cutting heads off. Thus, holocaust films.
December 18, 200322 yr Author Well the Crusades was more of just an example of a major event in Christian history that goes unattended. I am not for perpetuating the fact that our forefathers were bloody and cruel. Some people still hold Catholicism as the cruelest most fanatic religion. I do not want that perpetuated on the movies. However, there have been lots of movies made about it and the most recent I can remember was "Joan of Arc" in which they made her seem like a crazy woman rather than a saint. You don't see any movies on the genocide in Yugoslavia, or the mass murders in Cuba or Korea, or the Mongolian massacres How many people know or even care about those events? Hollywood is all for blockbusters Juanky. If people do not care about the story, they do not go to the theaters. The holocaust, because it took so many lives and two wars, has more chances of drawing greater numbers of public than the other plots you have suggested. So it is not a Jewish conspiracy but more of a business issue. Genghis and his boys did just as much (and some argue more) damage. Ivan the Terrible, Bloody Mary, Juana la Loca. There are many, many people who have done terrible things but Hitler is the only one remembered. Again, how many people know about these horrible mass murderers? Not many. The most researched, talked about and despised man is still Hitler. He represents the root of all evil to many, including non-Jewish. In many instances, Christians refer to Hitler as the "anti-christ". I know I do. Nero persecuted Christians left and right (he also appointed his favorite horse Senator and played the Violin while he watched his own city burn (his doing). But any mention of him? Maybe in a made for TV movie. That is true, but I once again do not think it has anything to do with Jewish power of the media. I just think that they are making more stupid movies about blowing up cars than about this. Jewish are mostly educated people, they go on and make an excellent movie about their history (i.e, Schindler's list) while someone like Mel Gibson, just waited until now to make "The Passion", but he was very wraped up in making commercial movies (take out Braveheart).
December 18, 200322 yr Author Not so, I choose to on my own avoid the lesser educated (majority) sector of the American population. When I said "you" I was not referring to you personnaly but to the majority of American public. I know for example, that I had no idea of how much hatred these people had for Americans nor I cared for them... It all changed radically after 9/11 and I am pretty sure we will have plenty of movies and books on them and the events we are currently living.
December 19, 200322 yr Author I am appalled to find that there is actually that many people out there who believe there is such thing as a "Jewish Conspiracy". I actually find this to be retarded, but I wanted to see where was Juanky coming from with that and this is what I found... Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment". It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So What?": "It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most influential pruduction executives at each of the major movie studios will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names." "The famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most powerful positions." The head of Walt Disney studios is now the Jew Michael Eisner. On studios that were bought out by the Japanese the magazine says: "When Mitsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and Tom Pollack." There is a list of all the supposedly controlled media in the webpage I am linking... However, I would not take any of these as truth, because none of the sources are really valid. Everything I have read seems to be mere assumptions based in no real research or facts. In other words there is no evidence of such thing, therefore it simply is not true! LINK
December 20, 200322 yr Don't take that crap seriously7. Its s*** made up by a bunch of skinheads. The website links to a martin luther king site that says his holiday should be repealed. Furthermore, such "research" could be made up, exaggerated, and or outdated. Furthermore, someone is only jewish if their mother is jewish. However, does their research consider that? I'm not denying, there are a lot of Jews in certain professions. But is there a jewish accountant, lawyer, or doctor conspiracy? No, that's ridiculous. Jews at far higher levels go to way better schools and get way better jobs, how is this very surprising?
December 20, 200322 yr No one "killed" Jesus. He chose to lay his human life down for all of mankind's sins. If He really wanted to, He could have made Himself invisible in the Garden of Gethsemane, or even taken Himself down off of the cross and walked away unnoticed, but He didn't.
December 20, 200322 yr Author My point exactly! That is everything I said at the start of this topic. He did not get "killed", because he chose to give his life to save us. Sorianofan, in the last post I added that none of that crap is true or supported on real evidence. I just posted that because I wanted to show where Juanky was coming from. It is true that there are a lot powerful Jewish men and women in the media, but I do not think they get together and "conspire" against non-jewish. However, there is a bunch of ignorant people who think that way.
December 20, 200322 yr Sorianofan, in the last post I added that none of that crap is true or supported on real evidence. I just posted that because I wanted to show where Juanky was coming from. It is true that there are a lot powerful Jewish men and women in the media, but I do not think they get together and "conspire" against non-jewish. However, there is a bunch of ignorant people who think that way. I'm not mad at you, just the anti-semites, like those skin heads. I have debated this subject before to racist Europeans, it just angers me. When Juanky realizes that the "jewish media" really isn't true in a majoritive (sp?) sense and that in many ways it is just a reflection of other non conspiratory phenomena, we will all be on the same page.
December 20, 200322 yr I don't really want to touch this one, except for the fact that the Jews were responsible for killing Christ, choosing the freedom of a murderer over the freedom of the Son of God, so they should just accept it and move on. They didn't, of course, literally kill him because it was the Romans who "officially" put him on trial. BUT that being said, they chose to put him on trial and when Pontius Pilot left the fate of his life in their hands they chose to have him executed. Saying the Romans are to take most of the blame is like saying that the executioner orders the people he executes to be put to death. The Germans haven't denied they killed all the Jews, the Americans haven't denied they enslaved all the blacks, so why should the Jews deny something that is common knowledge? whos cares who killed him, hed be dead now anyway
December 20, 200322 yr You better watch out! Jews are taking over the world. Look at this website! Admin is Jewish. Das is Jewish. Yenta is Jewish. OMG! We're everywhere!! Quick- run for your lives! Lock up your daughters! Who knows?? Maybe even God is Jewish!!! Well jesus is, so i guess they do rule the world :lol
December 20, 200322 yr Well one thing thats true about the religion thing, with all the deaths that have been caused by theses religions and hates between religion, do we really need a religion, does it bring more good or bad??
December 21, 200322 yr Author Good Point! which one? Well one thing thats true about the religion thing, with all the deaths that have been caused by theses religions and hates between religion, do we really need a religion, does it bring more good or bad?? This one... Do we really need religion? But I think you've already started another topic on this.
December 21, 200322 yr I personally could care less if there was a KKK majority in Hollywood. Just do some other stuff for God's sake, movies about the same thing over and over again are not exciting.
December 22, 200322 yr I dunno, I can't wait until rocky 6, rambo 4, terminator 4, schindler's list 2, home alone 4, planet of the apes 7, and another bond movie come out. I just don't get bored of them.
December 22, 200322 yr Bond movies are acceptable because they kickass. But the others we can do without.
December 22, 200322 yr Author um.... i am not jewish. :huh Are you a scientologist? *prays for a negative answer*
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