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Florida Marlins sounds so much better than Miami Marlins! I think it is just a matter of preference. If u want it, it will sound good. If you don't, it will sound like crap. Right now we would all probably say that the Florida Dolphins sounds awful. But what if that was the fins original name? I'm sure quite a few folks would be saying now that Miami Dolphins sounds awful. They should call them the South Florida Marlins :lol Not just Miami roots for the Marlins! :thumbup They are leaving Ft. Lauderdale and Palm Beach out :crying You know, that is what I have always advocated for the Panthers. We all know these teams in South Florida are not cared very much about outside of South Florida. Most fans in central and north florida have never thought of the Marlins or Panthers as their team. So I have always said if you must have a "Florida" in the name, make sure to have a "South" in front of it. As for the Marlins, it is clear they will change to Miami Marlins if this thing gets done. You guys already know my positive opinion about this.

I will love the change to the Miami Marlins!!!!!! Of course, I am a Miami guy. ;-)

other useres say that, that pic is not of actual design anymore. that it has been changed by the marlins. That would be me. I just wanted to post that other warning so that people don't get surprised to see another design presented by the Marlins when they finally unveil the renderings publicly. For all we know, the PM design may in fact be the true design but it was just the matter that this inside source for the Marlins just did not want to confirm to this media person that the PM pic is the latest design. So he had to throw up some sort of red herring. We just don't know. The only thing that I can confirm for fact is that the PM design is an authentic design that was contemplated by the Marlins at some point. Whether it is the latest or not we can only speculate.

So we're expecting more of a Petco variety than the classic new brick park? 672536[/snapback] yup!

Hi guys, Just talked with someone within the media and this someone said they had a contact within the Marlins organization (Not Samson). This contact stated that he saw the front running model for the Marlins ballpark and that he thought it was so damn beautiful. That it was not another red brick ballpark that would seem out of place in Miami. But that this contact in the Marlins also said the model he saw is not the same one depicted on PM. The PM model is not the latest version according to this source within the Marlins. This source does not know where PM got that pic. However, this is odd since Samson confirmed to me that the PM pic is one of the models being looked at. Just wanted to tell you guys this so that you guys can expect a different looking beautiful ballpark than the one depicted on PM. We shall see!!! I can't wait any longer, dammit!!!

I would have loved to seen it either on Bicentennial next to AAArena or on the Miami Arena site. My vision was to create a sports and entertainment district between both AAArena and Marlins ballpark right in downtown, but that is not going to happen because that either would require too much money for the Miami Arena site or because of the block put on the Bicentennial site by the environmentalist groups. So we will have to settle for the OB site. Hey...at least the OB site will offer a beautiful view of the Downtown Miami skyline.

Finally, PM has put up a better resolution pic of a design the Marlins are looking at: http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/tb_lg_miami-lg.jpg I found that link here: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/te...html?page=2&c=y

And no way will the BCS want them to move back to the Orange Bowl. They can just make too much money on Dolphins Stadium that they cannot make even in a renovated Orange Bowl.

But I think Wayne thinks there is more money to be made by bringing in his world class events than having baseball at the stadium.

I have heard the complete opposite. I don't think they have ever said they want to move back to the OB. I know this because I read and heard this on the radio some time ago. I am not making this stuff up. Quite simply FedEx Orange Bowl will not be returning to the Orange Bowl even after the Orange Bowl renovations. Even Wayne knows that. That is why he mentioned he wants to upgrade the Dolphins Stadium for future Orange Bowl games. You just got confused because you always thought they would move back to the Orange Bowl. Btw, the FedEx Orange Bowl will not stay at the Dolphins Stadium because it is a newer facility; it will stay there because it is a superior facility for the FedEx Orange Bowl needs.

What is?

Wait. Won't the Orange Bowl game go back to the Orange Bowl once the renovations are completed? So PP Park or Dolphins stadium or whatever isn't going to have the opportunity to host very many Orange Bowl games :confused Yes, you are confused. That is because the Fed Ex Orange Bowl game will not go back to the Orange Bowl after the renovations are done to the Orange Bowl. IOW, the FedEx Orange Bowl will always be held at the Dolphins Stadium even after the completion of the original Orange Bowl renovation. Dolphins stadium is just too a superior venue to the Orange Bowl even after these Orange Bowl renovations.

I e-mailed David Samson and asked him about this model on Popular Mechanics. He confirmed that it is one of the designs being looked at. But that no final decisions have been made as to the final design to be chosen.

roof looks great. a piece of art. maybe Loria should go for more of a bare bones to lower cost? 648954[/snapback] If it is going to be built, let it be built right. We do not need another Miami Arena. This damn ballpark better be one of the best. I don't need the Marlins a few years from now demanding a new ballaprk because this year they decided to go bare bones. That is simply another recipe for Miami Arena II.

That is not the correct pic. I believe that is the pic for the new NY stadium. The marlins ballpark pic is the second pic on page 24.

Has anyone yet seen the small pic of a ballpark next to a comment about the Marlins new ballpark on page 24??? Did the magazine just make up how it could look like? Or do you think the magazine got a true peek at how the Marlins ballpark will look like?

permanent domed stadiums suck, period. Baseball was not meant to be played only under some damn ugly roof. It was meant to be played outdoors. A retractable roof will allow baseball to be played in good weather and in bad. You are just trying to save money. But in the end it will cost more. Two words for you: Miami Arena. I do not need the Marlins a few years after the new one opens asking for yet new ballpark again. The Marlins need an awesome ballpark they can play in for at least some 40 years. A retractable ballpark is it.

They will change to the Miami Marlins. Diaz said that that is part of the deal or else there is no deal. Even Barry Jackson reported not too long ago that again chaning the name to Miami Marlins will be part of the deal.

Another question for Cape... I believe I read on the miamitodaynews.com article that the new location for the Marlins ballpark will be on the east side of the orange bowl. Did I understand that correctly? If I did, the Marlins ballpark will definitely have a better view of downtown.

Oh, also looks like the aquarium may be on the first base or right field sides. How do you know that? Is there a link somewhere I can read? Thanks

Those are the old renderings for the proposed Twin's ballpark. The new renderings for that park look a lot better IMHO.

the cost already has the roof's tab on it. Yea, the 325 includes the roof. The reason I said it should cost 60 mil was because the roof in Houston cost 60 mil. Who knows, it may end up costing a little less. But if you add 60 mil to the 285 of Petco, it would be about 345. That is why I said it would about the same type o price range. A difference of 20 mill or so.

and the roof should cost around 60 mil or so. So the Marlins ballpark will be in about the same price range as Petco without having to pay for the very expensive land San Diego had to pay for and so on.

Below are renderings for the twin's proposed ballpark. A roof like this below would be awesome for the new Marlins ballpark. here is why: When you look at the outfield you can actually see the buildings outside just like a regular open air ballpark. Whereas at Safeco, you see the big roof in the way when you look towards the outside.

All those Palm Beach and Broward residents who work in Miami-Dade know how much of a nightmare it is to drive south into Miami. The further south the stadium, the less amount of Broward and Palm Beach residents. Well, traffic is alot easier going south than going north in the afternoon in South Florida.